Topic: Innosilicon A5 DashMaster 30.2G 750W - page 36. (Read 55224 times)

Try deleting the number 3 in order quantity and put 1. looks like it might work?

Anyone willing to share an order? Im in Arizona.

Wow, USD$10k per unit. Seems a bit steep. You can get 3 D3 Antminer for that amount, which is 45 GHs vs. 30.2 GHs from the A5 Dashmaster. I get the power efficiency, but that's a big premium.

$10k each?!?! Do I get a pony and unicorn with it for that price?

That said, Im sure they will be sold out in an hour or so

you can preorder now for 4.22 BTC
a bit out of my budget lol

30.2GH at 750W, the world best X11 miner A5 DashMaster is coming!
Welcome to pre-order now! http://www.innosilicon.com/html/a5-miner/index.html#Buy

There it is. $10,000 for one.

But buy 10 and get 1 free!

PRE-ORDER is now open  4.22 BTC


Update :4.22 BTC　( or 9999 USD; 254.23 LTC ) 
http://www.innosilicon.com/html/a5-miner/index.html#Buy

Deposit:   49995 USD

( MOQ 3 units, buy 10 get 1 free, extra reward machines will be handled by sales)

Ehh, I don't buy it.  They haven't had to have a presell of this magnitude before because they have plenty of funding.  Either they are mining with the units, or saw Bitmain's release and wanted to get their product out there also.

in my answer from them the MOQ is 3, but delivery time starts from Oct 10th 2017. weird.

May be because of I am in Thailand, not too far from China?. Heh, heh

HAHA!  That's funny.  I got the same exact email back, but they said MOQ is 5 units in mine..

Scheduling to get new ASIC wafers ... there are only so many foundries that do this work, so everyone at one point or another, gets in line. take that and testing before shipping out 1000s of units across the pond, and you have the logistics of Sept.

So let me get this straight.  They have proven the speeds and even have pictures of the unit, which means it has already been developed and the majority of the costs have been paid.  So why do we have to wait until end of September for shipping to start?  Will Inno just be mining with the units for 2 months and sitting on our money?

At least its nice to see someone finally blow Bitmain out of the water.  Hopefully the price won't be a disappointment.

They answered my email as below

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Hi, there
Thanks for your interest!
Innosilicon, the world’s leading supplier of advanced mining ASIC, proudly announces today its next generation X11 miner, A5 DashMaster, at 30.2GH performance in 750W low power mode and 38GH in overclocked mode. It is so advanced and so far ahead in the field that it possesses >3.2 times efficiency advantage over its closest competitor. The A5 DashMaster owns huge competitive advantage, significantly lower operating cost, higher ROI and longevity in all conditions.
Smart customers choose the best miners and won’t risk money on obsolete stuff. A5 DashMaster is so well designed that we believe, even couple of years from now, you can still resell it as the best miner in the market"
 
Innosilicon X11 is fully proven and open for pre-order now! Delivery time starts from Sept 20th 2017 with superior 6 months’ warranty. First order, first served!
For pre-order, please keep eyes on our pre-order page:
http://www.innosilicon.com/html/a5-miner/index.html#Buy
The price will be disclosed soon! Stay tuned and get miners from the world’s first limited batch!
 
The MOQ is 3 uints, no need to register an account to buy. The purchase flow is as below:
 1. submit an order on the page(when pre-order is open)
 2. get an auto-reply email with quote(full payment is only accepted)
 3. finish the payment within 2 hours
 4. send us the payment proof
 5. pre-order is done
 
Best Regards,
Innosilicon Marketing Team
Tel: +86 27-87531668 ext 407

If anyone is arranging a group-buy, count me in for 3 . Lets hope they respond in a reasonable time 

Has anyone gotton their quotes from the pre order for a5s for MOQ 3x

Anyone has pre-order with inno before? how things with their delivery schedule? we know bitmain is great about their delivery schedule.

I think everyone will overclock it , if they mention it in specs youd assume its capable and stable with the right cooling and covered by warranty for 6 months is great so if thats all achieveable we might have to assume they are priced at their 38ghs capacity even if its less efficient to run overclocked.

   So 2.5x speed of d3 is ~ 38ghs so looking at the power efficiency savings benefits ( 1200x2.5 =3000 watts for 2.5 d3s  vs 1200watts a5 overclocked ) 1.8kh an hour savings - forever , and some development costs and premiums on being the best plus future dash value minus future difficulty (maybe they wont care about difficulty increases as much as bitmain has takin it into account in their price discount)

D3

$6750+ for 2.5 d3s ( plus is for extra shipping and 2nd batch possible premium/ dash price increase )
 ( u cant order 2.5 machines but this is just for hash comparison)

So batch 2 will prob cost $6750 up to 8250 (l3+s ranged from ~1300-1700+) for 2.5 d3s ( to equal ~38ghs of the 1 A5)

Power Cost Difference between D3 and A5 ( overclocked )per mh in kw an hour =
 1.8 kw  1.8 x 24 hours x 7x 4  = 1200kw x .10 c/kw =  $  120  a month extra to run 2.5 d3s ( hashpower of 1 a5 at 38ghs)              =  $  1440 for  12  months                                        

 1.65kw an hour savings between not overclocked a5 and 2x d3s both at 30ghs $ =  110  a month extra to run 2 d3s                       =    $  1320  for 12 months ( not overclocked and 8ghs less speed then above )

A5

 Prob second to d3 to market so less cost for that and longer wait time , less reputable brand with past changes in final specs and delivery delays then bitmain so minus price for that, smaller brand with less starting capital then bitmain and prob more expensive manufacturing processes and costs  then bitmain,

 The a5 is suppose to be best and have good profitability for  years as it says in description. They will factor this into price absolutely. I think power cost will become a much more important factor to consider with x11 as it isnt much now, as profits get slimmer efficiency will matter more , it wont for awhile but if innosilicon expect the A5 to be profitable for years its something to consider later down the track and they will charge u for that efficiency.


So with all these factors in mind u can imagine how much it would prob  cost. A lot of these factors innosilicon wont take into account because demand can make some of these factors irrelevant and then theres just pure greed. Lol

  I Think theyll charge 9-10k for single units sold to public which is basically 7.5k - 8.5k with the minimum amount youd save in power at .10c usd a kw (which is cheap in some places) for its useful profitable lifetime of up to 12 months ( they say years but all it takes is 150ghs+ machines in 6 months to change things.Never say Never.) Further batches should be cheaper as difficulty will definitely affect their profitability. This machine has be good enough till around the reward halving in 2019 so its a big ask for them to expect it to. NEED A CEASEFIRE in x11 arms race!

Eventually l3+s were sold only for ltc, didnt happen straight away but if bitmain does the same for dash expect plenty of support and even some initial future rallys  based solely on people buying miners and affecting the dash price by  doing so as well as general traders buying now and holding in anticipation for the difficulty bomb and evolution update. Dash should surpass the  zcash ATH by December esp if btc reaches 3700. Volume is prob not high enough for bitmain to start doing that but give it time there will plenty of coins in a few months..