Innosilicon A5 DashMaster 30.2G 750W - page 38.

Raziel__

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Quote from: woogod on July 19, 2017, 03:02:42 AM

Yeah
First iBelinks come, Baikal follows, then Bitmain strikes, then now Innosilicon.
Good to see competition, but the skyrocketing difficulty with four new models of miners coming in...

Yea I agree better to be off with x11 mining for now, there is going to be about 5k-10k pieces released from august to october, all of them doing from 11GH to 30GH, its going to be bloodbath.

shaninium

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40cm long is that longer then normal?

percy_tc

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Would nice to see a video about a working one...

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shaninium

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https://mobile.twitter.com/Inno_Miner

Check out the specs 38ghs if overclocked...

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Hhhhmmmz ...
There are so many contradicting infos out there - at some point it was said that Innosilicon was almost bancrupt.
I wonder where they want to get more funds and R & D from to build something that outperforms the newest bitmain-development. By factor 2.

kurbeks

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Poor guys who bought that Ibelink on pre-order for 9k$

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Quote from: kenOrgami on July 18, 2017, 11:38:38 PM

If the Antminer D3 suprise you, please wait for the next monster.

Pre-order begin at August.

That is even faster and more efficient than the Antminer D3.

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Clueless!

Quote from: David2201 on July 20, 2017, 02:33:35 AM

Just received a scam PM from Lonqsnowsm: - Notice the Q instead of G

________________________________________
Hi David2201,

Thank you for expressing interest in my Innosillicon A5 Dashminer group buy:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/group-buy-innosillicon-a5-dashminer-2034549

I have now secured a batch 1 order of 20 units.

Spec = 30.2 GH @ 750W
CE marked
Shipped by end Aug

Current price per unit = 2.5BTC inc. worldwide express shipping.

All units are on a first come first served basis
____________________________________________

Yep scammer. Brand new today. Newbie. No feedback yet. Obvious asshole.

David2201

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Just received a scam PM from Lonqsnowsm: - Notice the Q instead of G

________________________________________
Hi David2201,

Thank you for expressing interest in my Innosillicon A5 Dashminer group buy:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/group-buy-innosillicon-a5-dashminer-2034549

I have now secured a batch 1 order of 20 units.

Spec = 30.2 GH @ 750W
CE marked
Shipped by end Aug

Current price per unit = 2.5BTC inc. worldwide express shipping.

All units are on a first come first served basis
____________________________________________

Searing

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Clueless!

Quote from: woogod on July 19, 2017, 01:52:17 AM

Can confirm, just contacted Dominique from Inno that this is indeed true.
30.2 GH at 750W
Would be interested to work with a trusted member of bitcointalk to organise a group buy, as their MOQ is 100 units.

Contact longsnowsm. He did last legit A4 group buy. With everyone satisfied. Check out his
Profile trust rating and feedback.

QuintLeo

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Quote from: not.you on July 19, 2017, 02:22:10 PM

Quote from: Mr_Snipes on July 19, 2017, 09:38:12 AM

Some of the data is really questionable imho.
They write it can operate from 0 to 100 C ? No other miner can.
And also which chips should they use to use 50% of the power the D3 needs ?
D3 should already be 16 nm asic or less, it does not get much lower than that.

No way the D3 is 16nm. The iBelink is 28nm and the D3 is less efficient.

D3 is quite a bit better on efficiency vs the Baikal, which is 28nm.
It's possible the D3 is a highly optimized 28nm design and the Baikal NOT highly optimised, but no way to tell for sure right now.

I do have to wonder how long Innosilicon has been working on the A5 though - perhaps they were planning to release it late this year with no pre-announcement (like the A1 and even more the A2) but decided they needed to reply when Bitmain came out of nowhere with the D3?

I think the main problem with the A4 was that Innosillicon was announcing CHIP level specs originally based on early tape-out, and found out the hard way that process variation on the 14/16 nm node is a lot worse than on previous nodes (Bitmain had the same issue on the chips for the S9), leading them to be way too optimistic about what a miner would be able to produce - or the cost was too high and they had to cut chips and run them at a higher LESS EFFICIENT voltage to keep the price down to something viable for a miner.

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Quote from: woogod on July 19, 2017, 01:52:17 AM

Can confirm, just contacted Dominique from Inno that this is indeed true.
30.2 GH at 750W
Would be interested to work with a trusted member of bitcointalk to organise a group buy, as their MOQ is 100 units.

Innosilicon does have a history of over stating miner specs like th A4 dominator was announced at 850nhs then they said 450 mhs finally when miner was released it was only 280 mhs w/overclock. I have one and it only hashes 250-276 Mhs so this could be another fairy tale. I think they announce wrong info to attract investors to finance new miners.

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Quote from: pikachuy on July 19, 2017, 02:41:05 AM

What the heck is with all the x11 ASIC all of a sudden? It's like a nuclear race.

The "all of a sudden" was last year, when 3 came out of nowhere in less than 2 months - each with a "lower" process node and higher efficiency.

I suspect the recent price explosion on DASH is the cause for this SECOND wave of miners, coupled with Bitmain apparently reaching saturation to some degree on the S9 leading to them having unused capacity available at the foundry that makes their chips.

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Quote from: btcapollo on July 19, 2017, 05:37:11 PM

Quote from: QuintLeo on July 19, 2017, 05:23:12 PM

Quote from: Searing on July 19, 2017, 04:02:45 AM

Quote from: shaninium on July 19, 2017, 03:47:14 AM

Someone mentioned they offered 6-7k for 1 but they sounded like they wanted more then that

Assuming this is not a scam site? Sad

Innosilicon has been selling miners longer than most.
They're NOT a scam site.

This is not to say the "final" specs will be what they announced, they DID announce over-ambitious initial specs for the A4 after all - but it seems like EVERYONE got over-ambitious in the 14/16nm ASIC space, you don't see Bitmain claiming 14+ Ghash any more for S9s....

Other than the power draw, I don't see a difference between the D3 and the A5. D3 does 15GHs and costs $2700 while the A5 does 30GHs and may cost around $6k. I guess the extra space is worth something plus the $100 in power costs. Save yourself $600 and buy two D3's.

i agree

consider also that Inno usually delays the shipments...

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Quote from: QuintLeo on July 19, 2017, 05:23:12 PM

Quote from: Searing on July 19, 2017, 04:02:45 AM

Quote from: shaninium on July 19, 2017, 03:47:14 AM

Someone mentioned they offered 6-7k for 1 but they sounded like they wanted more then that

Assuming this is not a scam site? Sad

Innosilicon has been selling miners longer than most.
They're NOT a scam site.

This is not to say the "final" specs will be what they announced, they DID announce over-ambitious initial specs for the A4 after all - but it seems like EVERYONE got over-ambitious in the 14/16nm ASIC space, you don't see Bitmain claiming 14+ Ghash any more for S9s....

Other than the power draw, I don't see a difference between the D3 and the A5. D3 does 15GHs and costs $2700 while the A5 does 30GHs and may cost around $6k. I guess the extra space is worth something plus the $100 in power costs. Save yourself $600 and buy two D3's.

QuintLeo

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Quote from: Searing on July 19, 2017, 04:02:45 AM

Quote from: shaninium on July 19, 2017, 03:47:14 AM

Someone mentioned they offered 6-7k for 1 but they sounded like they wanted more then that

Assuming this is not a scam site? Sad

Innosilicon has been selling miners longer than most.
They're NOT a scam site.

This is not to say the "final" specs will be what they announced, they DID announce over-ambitious initial specs for the A4 after all - but it seems like EVERYONE got over-ambitious in the 14/16nm ASIC space, you don't see Bitmain claiming 14+ Ghash any more for S9s....

QuintLeo

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Quote from: woogod on July 19, 2017, 03:02:42 AM

Yeah
First iBelinks come, Baikal follows, then Bitmain strikes, then now Innosilicon.
Good to see competition, but the skyrocketing difficulty with four new models of miners coming in...

You forgot Pinidea, and iBelink is supposed to be shipping a SECOND generation machine shortly (the Bailkal "cube" doesn't count as it's still the same ASIC just they put 2 of them on one board for the cube).

I suspect Innosilicon will drop the MOQ at some point, the A4 was originally MOQ 100 but they dropped that to 5 after a bit (and had a group buy that would ship 3 to one address).

I WOULD worry about the preliminary specs not ending up matching the final specs, after the A4.

Pandaminer doesn't do ASIC, they're strictly a GPU-based miner maker.

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Quote from: Liquid71 on July 19, 2017, 03:47:09 PM

They need to drop the 100 MOQ and stop ignoring the market outside of China. Sick of ASIC companies ignoring the rest of the world...

Well they can support one guy that buys 100, or 100 people that buy 1. I think its smart business if you dont have the support infrastructure to handle a ton of tiny claims. They are not ignoring the rest of the world, they are just ignoring the hobby miners that dont understand the mining game has long moved to datacenters and specialized companies.

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They need to drop the 100 MOQ and stop ignoring the market outside of China. Sick of ASIC companies ignoring the rest of the world...

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