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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 25, 2022, 06:01:03 AM

^^ Well we have been discussing what kind of strategy Donaire needs to win this fight because as you have said, he has seen Inoue power and speed before and he himself holds against and then fight and broke Inoue's orbital bone. And so far the consensus is that Donaire's left hook and counter punch is the key for him to win against the Monster. If he failed to execute any of the two then the chances for him to win is slim.

If we combine all of our ideas of how Donaire can win against Inoue is just to avoid the body punch. Donaire can stand against the punch of Inoue and avoid power punches. And, I think he will stand against him if he tries to close in a fight and do left and right hooks.

As I predict the fight, it might be the same as last 2019. Donaire just needs to increase his stamina and speed since Inoue is much younger and has more speed and power.

Body punch is the signature of Inoue, Donaire was a victim in the first fight although he was not KO after getting hit by a solid body punch. I'm pretty sure Donaire are aware of it already, he already felt the power of Inoue, so he will be careful in this rematch and will try to be quicker, and also quicker to score a KO as that's his only chance to win.

Donaire cannot honestly deny that he was really lucky enough that he didn't got KO'd after Inoue gave him that solid body punch, he surely felt that punch while Inoue was also hurt but he managed to shake it off. Not just Donaire but both of them will be careful enough because they are aware of the consequence if they caught unguarded as they both know how strong they are.

Both will for sure, they already taste the solid punches against each other and now that in just one careless move their opponent can beat them up, looking to see the same type of tempo. How they fought before shows how eager both fighters to win against each other, and since this is a rematch and both of them hold belts that in stake.

More aggressive but smooth attacks to be sent by each fighter, even Donaire is underdog here, betting spare coins would be fine

to show my support for him..

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Anyways, since I lost a bet to a friend few days ago, I am now mandated to bet on Donaire. Cheesy

So I am hoping for his kind of last hurrah against a young version of himself. One Hail Mary punch can change the outcome of this fight.

That's the only chance Donaire will beat Inoue, he has the power, so as long as he got Inoue with the right timing, everything will change into his favor. Who knows, he might knock down Inoue cold and that will make him the unified champion in the bantam weight division.

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Quote from: Distinctin on May 25, 2022, 05:17:54 AM

But I believe that Donaire would correct those same mistakes he committed during their first encounter. Anyway, Donaire has spoken and these is his words:

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“If Naoya thinks I'm still the same as in our first encounter, that’s wrong. I’m quite different as I can punch him from any angle in any position now. My skills and motivation have improved a lot. You’ll see.” Donaire told Fightnews.

https://sports.inquirer.net/464196/donaire-says-hes-improved-a-lot-heading-into-inoue-rematch

There's a popular saying that is also common among boxing enthusiasts.

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You cannot teach an old dog new tricks.

Donaire is a legend and it made another record by still being a champion in his late 30s. But his words are no different to the other legends in the past that tried to continue fighting despite being their past primes. They always sugar coat themselves. Maybe it is in their confidence and that they were trying to persuade the public. Like saying age is just a number; that they were becoming better and improving; and that they felt young and at the best condition in their lives. And when they lost, they will accept the reality and facts.

Anyways, since I lost a bet to a friend few days ago, I am now mandated to bet on Donaire. Cheesy

So I am hoping for his kind of last hurrah against a young version of himself. One Hail Mary punch can change the outcome of this fight.

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Quote from: Russlenat on May 24, 2022, 01:07:23 PM

^^ Well we have been discussing what kind of strategy Donaire needs to win this fight because as you have said, he has seen Inoue power and speed before and he himself holds against and then fight and broke Inoue's orbital bone. And so far the consensus is that Donaire's left hook and counter punch is the key for him to win against the Monster. If he failed to execute any of the two then the chances for him to win is slim.

If we combine all of our ideas of how Donaire can win against Inoue is just to avoid the body punch. Donaire can stand against the punch of Inoue and avoid power punches. And, I think he will stand against him if he tries to close in a fight and do left and right hooks.

As I predict the fight, it might be the same as last 2019. Donaire just needs to increase his stamina and speed since Inoue is much younger and has more speed and power.

Almost all of us here are saying that Donaire can win if he can avoid Inoue's power punch to the body or at least shake it and withstand it easily after that punches land on him and that is true because we have seen that it was his weakness as the monster of Japan have brought him too much to bear with it comes to power punch.

But I believe that Donaire would correct those same mistakes he committed during their first encounter. Anyway, Donaire has spoken and these is his words:

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“If Naoya thinks I'm still the same as in our first encounter, that’s wrong. I’m quite different as I can punch him from any angle in any position now. My skills and motivation have improved a lot. You’ll see.” Donaire told Fightnews.

https://sports.inquirer.net/464196/donaire-says-hes-improved-a-lot-heading-into-inoue-rematch

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Quote from: mirakal on May 23, 2022, 07:49:29 AM

Quote from: mirakal on May 23, 2022, 07:49:29 AM

^^ Well we have been discussing what kind of strategy Donaire needs to win this fight because as you have said, he has seen Inoue power and speed before and he himself holds against and then fight and broke Inoue's orbital bone. And so far the consensus is that Donaire's left hook and counter punch is the key for him to win against the Monster. If he failed to execute any of the two then the chances for him to win is slim.

If we combine all of our ideas of how Donaire can win against Inoue is just to avoid the body punch. Donaire can stand against the punch of Inoue and avoid power punches. And, I think he will stand against him if he tries to close in a fight and do left and right hooks.

As I predict the fight, it might be the same as last 2019. Donaire just needs to increase his stamina and speed since Inoue is much younger and has more speed and power.

Body punch is the signature of Inoue, Donaire was a victim in the first fight although he was not KO after getting hit by a solid body punch. I'm pretty sure Donaire are aware of it already, he already felt the power of Inoue, so he will be careful in this rematch and will try to be quicker, and also quicker to score a KO as that's his only chance to win.

Donaire cannot honestly deny that he was really lucky enough that he didn't got KO'd after Inoue gave him that solid body punch, he surely felt that punch while Inoue was also hurt but he managed to shake it off. Not just Donaire but both of them will be careful enough because they are aware of the consequence if they caught unguarded as they both know how strong they are.

On first fight that they had in between these fighters then of course they had already have some awareness on how strong their opponent is which means that there would really be adjustments to be made with

this upcoming rematch.They would really be tending to adjust and make out some improvement which do make the opponent isnt really that aware off.For sure Inoue felt that previous fight that he had against

Donaire which is something that he shouldnt really be comfortable with because we know on how good or being durable for a Filipino boxer.

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^^ Well we have been discussing what kind of strategy Donaire needs to win this fight because as you have said, he has seen Inoue power and speed before and he himself holds against and then fight and broke Inoue's orbital bone. And so far the consensus is that Donaire's left hook and counter punch is the key for him to win against the Monster. If he failed to execute any of the two then the chances for him to win is slim.

If we combine all of our ideas of how Donaire can win against Inoue is just to avoid the body punch. Donaire can stand against the punch of Inoue and avoid power punches. And, I think he will stand against him if he tries to close in a fight and do left and right hooks.

As I predict the fight, it might be the same as last 2019. Donaire just needs to increase his stamina and speed since Inoue is much younger and has more speed and power.

Body punch is the signature of Inoue, Donaire was a victim in the first fight although he was not KO after getting hit by a solid body punch. I'm pretty sure Donaire are aware of it already, he already felt the power of Inoue, so he will be careful in this rematch and will try to be quicker, and also quicker to score a KO as that's his only chance to win.

Donaire cannot honestly deny that he was really lucky enough that he didn't got KO'd after Inoue gave him that solid body punch, he surely felt that punch while Inoue was also hurt but he managed to shake it off. Not just Donaire but both of them will be careful enough because they are aware of the consequence if they caught unguarded as they both know how strong they are.

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^^ Well we have been discussing what kind of strategy Donaire needs to win this fight because as you have said, he has seen Inoue power and speed before and he himself holds against and then fight and broke Inoue's orbital bone. And so far the consensus is that Donaire's left hook and counter punch is the key for him to win against the Monster. If he failed to execute any of the two then the chances for him to win is slim.

If we combine all of our ideas of how Donaire can win against Inoue is just to avoid the body punch. Donaire can stand against the punch of Inoue and avoid power punches. And, I think he will stand against him if he tries to close in a fight and do left and right hooks.

As I predict the fight, it might be the same as last 2019. Donaire just needs to increase his stamina and speed since Inoue is much younger and has more speed and power.

Body punch is the signature of Inoue, Donaire was a victim in the first fight although he was not KO after getting hit by a solid body punch. I'm pretty sure Donaire are aware of it already, he already felt the power of Inoue, so he will be careful in this rematch and will try to be quicker, and also quicker to score a KO as that's his only chance to win.

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^^ Well we have been discussing what kind of strategy Donaire needs to win this fight because as you have said, he has seen Inoue power and speed before and he himself holds against and then fight and broke Inoue's orbital bone. And so far the consensus is that Donaire's left hook and counter punch is the key for him to win against the Monster. If he failed to execute any of the two then the chances for him to win is slim.

If we combine all of our ideas of how Donaire can win against Inoue is just to avoid the body punch. Donaire can stand against the punch of Inoue and avoid power punches. And, I think he will stand against him if he tries to close in a fight and do left and right hooks.

As I predict the fight, it might be the same as last 2019. Donaire just needs to increase his stamina and speed since Inoue is much younger and has more speed and power.

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Quote from: Distinctin on May 21, 2022, 12:57:28 PM

Honestly, if Donaire haven't won on his recent fights with an impressive result, I believe he already decided to hang up his gloves and didn't pursue to have some fight with the monster of Japan as he know his chances is slim. But, as we know, he did ended his recent fights with impressive wins and that's is also why I believe he can still pull a victory in this rematch.

I also think the same, but that fight was really his ticket to fight Inoue again because he is the current champion, and a unification fight is always good to see. He is still the underdog in this fight, but we never know, maybe Donaire has prepared something that could shock the world.

Yes, that was truly his ticket as Donaire himself did not just win with a mere decision, instead, he managed to end those two consecutive fights with an impressive knockout result in just a year.
I believe he also wanted to see and test himself if he's still that capable despite of his age now, and fortunately, he is still capable that's why he and his camp pursued a rematch.

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...maybe Donaire has prepared something that could shock the world.

Maybe, we don't know for sure, but I really hope that he has some tricks on his sleeve.

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Quote from: 24Kt on May 21, 2022, 03:56:17 PM

^^ Well we have been discussing what kind of strategy Donaire needs to win this fight because as you have said, he has seen Inoue power and speed before and he himself holds against and then fight and broke Inoue's orbital bone. And so far the consensus is that Donaire's left hook and counter punch is the key for him to win against the Monster. If he failed to execute any of the two then the chances for him to win is slim.

That's right, his chance is slim if his strategy will not work, unlike with Inoue where he can always makes an adjustment as he has an option either to KO Donaire or beat him through judges scorecards, of course, everybody knows what I mean, Donaire will never win if judges will decide.

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Quote from: Russlenat on May 21, 2022, 03:34:29 PM

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Quote from: Distinctin on May 21, 2022, 12:57:28 PM

Honestly, if Donaire haven't won on his recent fights with an impressive result, I believe he already decided to hang up his gloves and didn't pursue to have some fight with the monster of Japan as he know his chances is slim. But, as we know, he did ended his recent fights with impressive wins and that's is also why I believe he can still pull a victory in this rematch.

I also think the same, but that fight was really his ticket to fight Inoue again because he is the current champion, and a unification fight is always good to see. He is still the underdog in this fight, but we never know, maybe Donaire has prepared something that could shock the world.

Donaire has proven and tested already for how many years in the world of boxing he became a champion in his career and also in the ring he stand among those mans who will be defeated by him. If the result of this fight and still inoue will win in the second time it's better to give up not because he is weak and can not defeat Inoue but because he already prove himself that he is the champion maybe because of his age his moves effected.

Yes, no question about that, Donaire is really good and his wins are very interesting. That's why this fight is very interesting despite we already seen them fight already, this rematch is good for Donaire as he came from a huge win, it gave him the confidence he needs to beat the monster of Japan which was still undefeated until now.

A new strategy may give the possibility for Donaire to win over Inoue. As he has faced Inoue before, he already knew what needs to be done and what to avoid. As people are highlighting his age to be one of the factors that may affect his performance inside the ring. He should finish the fight as early as he can, if he can see the chance. Otherwise, Inoue may dominate him in the last rounds. But still, this fight is still exciting to watch. We will know where Donaire and Inoue will go from here.

There's no need for this fight to go to the distance, if Donaire wants to win, it should be finished by KO or TKO, that's his only chance IMO. Inoue is very young, he is in his prime, he can knock out anyone, but he is not perfect, he can also make mistakes like in their first fight that's why he got surgery after the fight.

This is a revenge for Donaire and a good achievement for his retirement if he wins this fight.

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^^ Well we have been discussing what kind of strategy Donaire needs to win this fight because as you have said, he has seen Inoue power and speed before and he himself holds against and then fight and broke Inoue's orbital bone. And so far the consensus is that Donaire's left hook and counter punch is the key for him to win against the Monster. If he failed to execute any of the two then the chances for him to win is slim.

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Quote from: Russlenat on May 21, 2022, 03:34:29 PM

Quote from: Shamm on May 21, 2022, 03:29:46 PM

Quote from: Distinctin on May 21, 2022, 12:57:28 PM

Honestly, if Donaire haven't won on his recent fights with an impressive result, I believe he already decided to hang up his gloves and didn't pursue to have some fight with the monster of Japan as he know his chances is slim. But, as we know, he did ended his recent fights with impressive wins and that's is also why I believe he can still pull a victory in this rematch.

I also think the same, but that fight was really his ticket to fight Inoue again because he is the current champion, and a unification fight is always good to see. He is still the underdog in this fight, but we never know, maybe Donaire has prepared something that could shock the world.

Donaire has proven and tested already for how many years in the world of boxing he became a champion in his career and also in the ring he stand among those mans who will be defeated by him. If the result of this fight and still inoue will win in the second time it's better to give up not because he is weak and can not defeat Inoue but because he already prove himself that he is the champion maybe because of his age his moves effected.

Yes, no question about that, Donaire is really good and his wins are very interesting. That's why this fight is very interesting despite we already seen them fight already, this rematch is good for Donaire as he came from a huge win, it gave him the confidence he needs to beat the monster of Japan which was still undefeated until now.

A new strategy may give the possibility for Donaire to win over Inoue. As he has faced Inoue before, he already knew what needs to be done and what to avoid. As people are highlighting his age to be one of the factors that may affect his performance inside the ring. He should finish the fight as early as he can, if he can see the chance. Otherwise, Inoue may dominate him in the last rounds. But still, this fight is still exciting to watch. We will know where Donaire and Inoue will go from here.

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Quote from: Shamm on May 21, 2022, 03:29:46 PM

Quote from: Distinctin on May 21, 2022, 12:57:28 PM

Honestly, if Donaire haven't won on his recent fights with an impressive result, I believe he already decided to hang up his gloves and didn't pursue to have some fight with the monster of Japan as he know his chances is slim. But, as we know, he did ended his recent fights with impressive wins and that's is also why I believe he can still pull a victory in this rematch.

I also think the same, but that fight was really his ticket to fight Inoue again because he is the current champion, and a unification fight is always good to see. He is still the underdog in this fight, but we never know, maybe Donaire has prepared something that could shock the world.

Donaire has proven and tested already for how many years in the world of boxing he became a champion in his career and also in the ring he stand among those mans who will be defeated by him. If the result of this fight and still inoue will win in the second time it's better to give up not because he is weak and can not defeat Inoue but because he already prove himself that he is the champion maybe because of his age his moves effected.

Yes, no question about that, Donaire is really good and his wins are very interesting. That's why this fight is very interesting despite we already seen them fight already, this rematch is good for Donaire as he came from a huge win, it gave him the confidence he needs to beat the monster of Japan which was still undefeated until now.

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