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Quote from: passwordnow on April 11, 2022, 12:18:05 PM

He is because he's the one who had took the first win of their match before. But Nonito will have to show his greatness and he won't just allow that Inoue would beat him for the 2nd time.

I hope this will be a great fight and Donaire will take his revenge so we will see a trilogy.
They are actually good friends, remember, Inoue let Donaire borrow his trophy because Donaire promise his son that he will win the fight, I was talking about the first fight in Japan, and I really admire how kind Inoue is, so this should be a great fight to witness as for sure they'll trade more punches which makes it a very exciting fight.

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Quote from: Naficopa on April 11, 2022, 09:16:22 AM

In my opinion, Inoue will try the same strategy he used in the last fight. If everything is going as well as last time, why change it? But surely Donaire has changed a lot of things in his tactics and will try new things. It will be a very interesting fight for sure

If it's doing well, yeah that's obvious why he has to change it. But honestly, he's aware that strategy will be studied by Donaire. So it's a mix strategy that both of them should apply. It's hard to think of those strategies if both of them are surely looking on how to defeat flawlessly.

Quote from: Naficopa on April 11, 2022, 09:16:22 AM

but for me Inoue is the favorite one more time.

He is because he's the one who had took the first win of their match before. But Nonito will have to show his greatness and he won't just allow that Inoue would beat him for the 2nd time.

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Inoue is too small to KO Donaire, as long as Donaire will be careful and always ensure his moves are calculated then for sure he will give Inoue some problem. Fans are eager to watch and know the outcome of the game because the fighter that wins this fight will possible have a fight with Casimero.

You are wrong with that, Inoue hurt Donaire in their first meeting, he can target the stomach and his opponent with vow down. It was just Donaire is strong to survive but he wasn't anymore engaging aggressively after that heavy blow in the stomach.

When in the first fight they both suffered pretty severe injuries in my opinion even at that time even though Inoue won he was injured even more in the face. but on the other hand inoue win is not luck. as you said Inoue managed to do a pretty hard hook that time and his jab also went to Donaire a lot.
I think it will be tough in June considering their speed is still quite good

Inoue will not be so aggressive in this rematch because he already felt the power of Donaire and could really hurt him, the worst could knock him down if he goes toe to toe. Counter punch is the biggest technique of Donaire, he worked that strategy perfectly for years, so it's not new to him and Inoue has to be careful if he wants to remain undefeated before he will move up in weight.

if he doesn't want to be battered like 2 years ago then caution is a natural thing Cheesy

But the good thing is that both boxers have felt each other's punches and of course they definitely know what they have to do in the next match.
but it is clear that in this case donaire is not benefited by his age even though his hitting is still very hard but in terms of performance of course age is also an important factor

Here comes with the age issue again, why is it that you're so certain that age is an important factor? I'm not a fan of Donaire but I disagree about it, age will only become a factor if the fighter or boxer isn't active for years or not getting a fight for two years or more.

In the case of Donaire, he already fought twice last year and ended it with a KO and now he's fighting against the Japan's monster Inoue with just 6 months of rest period.

Both of them already got the experience and knowledge they need because they already encountered last 2019, we might expect an easy slow first round and then an exchanging punches toe-to-toe afterwards and see who will go down first.

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Quote from: Saisher on April 11, 2022, 08:58:42 AM

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But the good thing is that both boxers have felt each other's punches and of course they definitely know what they have to do in the next match.

There are a lot of changes but the experience when they've faced each other, it is going to remain. Improvements were made and there's still a game plan for each of them.
Even though they've got an idea on how each of them can read their moves based on their past match. Still, it's possible that changes were made and those moves are just guide.
There's a possibility that surprise winning punch will be thrown which is what I'm expecting for.

Both fighters are intelligent they are thinking fighters and they have great teams behind them, they are going to have new strategies and new training regimens, Donaire will be looking for Inoue's weaknesses while Inoue will maintain his speed and power because these are his best weapon, usually, when two fighters meet again they go where they left off, I don't think this time it will happen.

In my opinion, Inoue will try the same strategy he used in the last fight. If everything is going as well as last time, why change it? But surely Donaire has changed a lot of things in his tactics and will try new things. It will be a very interesting fight for sure, but for me Inoue is the favorite one more time.

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But the good thing is that both boxers have felt each other's punches and of course they definitely know what they have to do in the next match.

There are a lot of changes but the experience when they've faced each other, it is going to remain. Improvements were made and there's still a game plan for each of them.
Even though they've got an idea on how each of them can read their moves based on their past match. Still, it's possible that changes were made and those moves are just guide.
There's a possibility that surprise winning punch will be thrown which is what I'm expecting for.

Both fighters are intelligent they are thinking fighters and they have great teams behind them, they are going to have new strategies and new training regimens, Donaire will be looking for Inoue's weaknesses while Inoue will maintain his speed and power because these are his best weapon, usually, when two fighters meet again they go where they left off, I don't think this time it will happen.

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Quote from: alpamar99 on April 11, 2022, 04:59:43 AM

But the good thing is that both boxers have felt each other's punches and of course they definitely know what they have to do in the next match.

There are a lot of changes but the experience when they've faced each other, it is going to remain. Improvements were made and there's still a game plan for each of them.
Even though they've got an idea on how each of them can read their moves based on their past match. Still, it's possible that changes were made and those moves are just guide.
There's a possibility that surprise winning punch will be thrown which is what I'm expecting for.

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All unification fights are good for boxing including this one but the odds won't be that good. Donaire's age is moving forward while Inoue is still in his late 20s. It is amazing Donaire is still a champion at this stage. His power is extra ordinary, something the bantamweights cannot take. It takes another extra ordinary bantamweight to take Donaire's power and that's Inoue. Inoue will be heavily favored to win this one; power, speed, timing, iq, heart and home crowd. We will see if old Donaire can land those bombs and hurt Inoue which is his only chance to win.

I hope Casimero will stay away from issues and focus on his career. He will be fighting once again in front of a hostile British fans with their loud chants. And I cannot see anymore a Donaire-Casimero fight soon after both teams reconciled.

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After Inoue vs Donaire rematch, we will probably see either one of them against Casimero next year in the 1st quarter because this year just too short to have some preparations as Inoue vs Donaire's date is June.

A 6 months preparation will do and a fight either of these 2 against Casimero will be possible on December.
But I'd really love to see a Inoue vs Casimero match regardless of the Inoue vs Donaire 2 result.
However, I have a feeling that If Donaire wins in this 2nd meeting, there might be a trilogy that's gonna happen and Casimero will have to wait longer before he can have his turn fighting either one of them.

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Quote from: livingfree on April 10, 2022, 06:07:04 PM

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Well, we just have to focus on their current upcoming matches. Casimero and Butler is about to happen while for Donaire and Inoue is on the next months.

And these trio could land a match for each of them maybe after several months again or possibly by next year. So it's going to take a lot of time before it happens and we just have to wait for their matches for now.

After Inoue vs Donaire rematch, we will probably see either one of them against Casimero next year in the 1st quarter because this year just too short to have some preparations as Inoue vs Donaire's date is June.

That's very likely.

These three in the triangle will be the individuals that are likely to have a match with Casimero so whoever is going to be their next interest for their match then it will happen.

But we have to wait for that long and let's all just finish their matches before going that far. We don't know if the match or next fight will be announced by that quarter you've mentioned but yeah, everything is possible.

I hope the winner of the Donaire vs Inoue fight will not chicken out once Casimero will call out the champion. Casimero has been waiting for this opportunity to prove to the world that he is the best bantamweight out there, but he is not given a chance as their promoters are just trying to protect their fighters since they know how risky it is to fight Casimero.

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Quote from: livingfree on April 10, 2022, 06:07:04 PM

That's very likely.

These three in the triangle will be the individuals that are likely to have a match with Casimero so whoever is going to be their next interest for their match then it will happen.

But we have to wait for that long and let's all just finish their matches before going that far. We don't know if the match or next fight will be announced by that quarter you've mentioned but yeah, everything is possible.

We need to see first the result of that fight since it was delayed a long ago and the only thing that would suffice the waiting period is to see him knocking out his opponent in the early rounds. More likely we will gonna see some awaited fight between Casimero and Inoue no matter what the result of Inoue's fight vs Donaire would be. Since they were trash-talking against each other on social media, especially Casimero, it wouldn't be good if they just skipped the fight.

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Inoue is too small to KO Donaire, as long as Donaire will be careful and always ensure his moves are calculated then for sure he will give Inoue some problem. Fans are eager to watch and know the outcome of the game because the fighter that wins this fight will possible have a fight with Casimero.

You are wrong with that, Inoue hurt Donaire in their first meeting, he can target the stomach and his opponent with vow down. It was just Donaire is strong to survive but he wasn't anymore engaging aggressively after that heavy blow in the stomach.

When in the first fight they both suffered pretty severe injuries in my opinion even at that time even though Inoue won he was injured even more in the face. but on the other hand inoue win is not luck. as you said Inoue managed to do a pretty hard hook that time and his jab also went to Donaire a lot.
I think it will be tough in June considering their speed is still quite good

Inoue will not be so aggressive in this rematch because he already felt the power of Donaire and could really hurt him, the worst could knock him down if he goes toe to toe. Counter punch is the biggest technique of Donaire, he worked that strategy perfectly for years, so it's not new to him and Inoue has to be careful if he wants to remain undefeated before he will move up in weight.

if he doesn't want to be battered like 2 years ago then caution is a natural thing Cheesy

But the good thing is that both boxers have felt each other's punches and of course they definitely know what they have to do in the next match.
but it is clear that in this case donaire is not benefited by his age even though his hitting is still very hard but in terms of performance of course age is also an important factor

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But don't forget that if by chance Butler beats Casimero, those possible fights may not happen.
So in this case, Casimero should really win over Butler. But their fight is already sure right?

Obviously, if Casimero will lose, no chances to face the winner between Inoue and Donaire since no title to unified. Instead, Paul Butler will replace his name and he will be the one that will compete in the Bantamweight Unification match. And while Casimero is climbing ranks again, Inoue now moves up a weight class as that's what he's planned even before.

Although Butler seems pumped, Casimero is on the purpose to not just beat Butler, but also to show Probelleum and MP Promotions what he got.

Just look at my previous, the trash talk is ON and it's gonna be exciting.

Bringing the hypes to his upcoming fight, it's good to see him back in business.

It's another journey to defend his belt and for more possible money fight, the win will let Casimero to continue holding the title
and with that, the same chance to face either Inoue or Donaire in his next title match.

For now, this fight will serve as a good call to his future opponent. It's a good time to showcase everything to sell his capabilities.,
and hype his name in this sport.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on April 09, 2022, 08:43:38 AM

Inoue does both, score on points and if he finds an opportunity to knock out his opponent he will do it. If we look at his record, most of his wins are coming from KO, so this guy really has the power and he would want to have an impressive win everytime he fights.

It's usual that whenever a boxer finds a spot, they will use that opportunity to get in and nailed a successful blow. Both Naoya Inoue and Nonito Donaire already know that and that's their respective task, to find that spot. Donaire's KO percentage is also high and we can also consider him a fighter that will try to penetrate any defense just to knock out their opponent and not just to gain points and scores.

We should expect them both to hit each other most of the time since that's what they want.

Whoever has the strong resistance and will remain standing after those numerous exchanges of punches, will be the winner.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on April 10, 2022, 06:33:13 PM

But don't forget that if by chance Butler beats Casimero, those possible fights may not happen.
So in this case, Casimero should really win over Butler. But their fight is already sure right?

Obviously, if Casimero will lose, no chances to face the winner between Inoue and Donaire since no title to unified. Instead, Paul Butler will replace his name and he will be the one that will compete in the Bantamweight Unification match. And while Casimero is climbing ranks again, Inoue now moves up a weight class as that's what he's planned even before.

Although Butler seems pumped, Casimero is on the purpose to not just beat Butler, but also to show Probelleum and MP Promotions what he got.

Just look at my previous, the trash talk is ON and it's gonna be exciting.

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Well, we just have to focus on their current upcoming matches. Casimero and Butler is about to happen while for Donaire and Inoue is on the next months.

And these trio could land a match for each of them maybe after several months again or possibly by next year. So it's going to take a lot of time before it happens and we just have to wait for their matches for now.

After Inoue vs Donaire rematch, we will probably see either one of them against Casimero next year in the 1st quarter because this year just too short to have some preparations as Inoue vs Donaire's date is June.

That's very likely.

These three in the triangle will be the individuals that are likely to have a match with Casimero so whoever is going to be their next interest for their match then it will happen.

But we have to wait for that long and let's all just finish their matches before going that far. We don't know if the match or next fight will be announced by that quarter you've mentioned but yeah, everything is possible.

But don't forget that if by chance Butler beats Casimero, those possible fights may not happen.
So in this case, Casimero should really win over Butler. But their fight is already sure right?
Because I've read in the Casimero's thread that their camp is looking for possible replacement because Casimero is facing a lawsuit.
Though no confirmation from both sides, so more than likely this will push thru.
But Donaire, on the other hand, got first with Inoue here.

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Quote from: freedomgo on April 09, 2022, 01:29:38 PM

Quote from: livingfree on April 09, 2022, 08:42:07 AM

Well, we just have to focus on their current upcoming matches. Casimero and Butler is about to happen while for Donaire and Inoue is on the next months.

And these trio could land a match for each of them maybe after several months again or possibly by next year. So it's going to take a lot of time before it happens and we just have to wait for their matches for now.

After Inoue vs Donaire rematch, we will probably see either one of them against Casimero next year in the 1st quarter because this year just too short to have some preparations as Inoue vs Donaire's date is June.

That's very likely.

These three in the triangle will be the individuals that are likely to have a match with Casimero so whoever is going to be their next interest for their match then it will happen.

But we have to wait for that long and let's all just finish their matches before going that far. We don't know if the match or next fight will be announced by that quarter you've mentioned but yeah, everything is possible.

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Quote from: alpamar99 on April 10, 2022, 12:46:39 PM

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Inoue is too small to KO Donaire, as long as Donaire will be careful and always ensure his moves are calculated then for sure he will give Inoue some problem. Fans are eager to watch and know the outcome of the game because the fighter that wins this fight will possible have a fight with Casimero.

You are wrong with that, Inoue hurt Donaire in their first meeting, he can target the stomach and his opponent with vow down. It was just Donaire is strong to survive but he wasn't anymore engaging aggressively after that heavy blow in the stomach.

When in the first fight they both suffered pretty severe injuries in my opinion even at that time even though Inoue won he was injured even more in the face. but on the other hand inoue win is not luck. as you said Inoue managed to do a pretty hard hook that time and his jab also went to Donaire a lot.
I think it will be tough in June considering their speed is still quite good

Inoue will not be so aggressive in this rematch because he already felt the power of Donaire and could really hurt him, the worst could knock him down if he goes toe to toe. Counter punch is the biggest technique of Donaire, he worked that strategy perfectly for years, so it's not new to him and Inoue has to be careful if he wants to remain undefeated before he will move up in weight.

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^ Yeah, Inoue love to go toe to toe as well, that's why their style make this fight very interesting. Donaire will used his counter punching skills specially his left hook and we will see if Inoue can hold his chin against that or he will buckle down a bit if he felt the power of Donaire. On the other hard, if Inoue will land his straight right or even his jab which has power as well, we will see Donaire's respond.

In all of Inoue's fights, we have never seen him play safe just to gather points. I also doubt he will do that against Donaire. As I said, Inoue's way of boxing is a close fight. That was his expertise regardless of his opponent who also had the same way of boxing. Since Inoue already knows the capability of Inoue referring to their first match, he surely knows what to do in the event they will again on a close fight.

What will be left and remain standing is the one who is able to overcome all those heavy and strong punches. Both boxers are now surely respectively doing how to strengthen their soft areas or those spots where they can't able to handle strong punches or if anything else, just continuing to harden any of their spots.

I think this as well, there are fights which are incredible technical and you can appreciate the art of boxing at its full expression as the fighters can do it all and evade, block, counter-punch, take a punch and attack at a high level, but to me despite both Inoue and Donaire being very good I really expect that this will turn into a street fight in which neither boxer will avoid the other and they will throw punches until one of them falls.

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Quote from: freedomgo on April 10, 2022, 08:24:03 AM

Quote from: Japinat on April 10, 2022, 07:57:50 AM

Inoue is too small to KO Donaire, as long as Donaire will be careful and always ensure his moves are calculated then for sure he will give Inoue some problem. Fans are eager to watch and know the outcome of the game because the fighter that wins this fight will possible have a fight with Casimero.

You are wrong with that, Inoue hurt Donaire in their first meeting, he can target the stomach and his opponent with vow down. It was just Donaire is strong to survive but he wasn't anymore engaging aggressively after that heavy blow in the stomach.

When in the first fight they both suffered pretty severe injuries in my opinion even at that time even though Inoue won he was injured even more in the face. but on the other hand inoue win is not luck. as you said Inoue managed to do a pretty hard hook that time and his jab also went to Donaire a lot.
I think it will be tough in June considering their speed is still quite good

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Quote from: Japinat on April 10, 2022, 07:57:50 AM

Inoue is too small to KO Donaire, as long as Donaire will be careful and always ensure his moves are calculated then for sure he will give Inoue some problem. Fans are eager to watch and know the outcome of the game because the fighter that wins this fight will possible have a fight with Casimero.

You are wrong with that, Inoue hurt Donaire in their first meeting, he can target the stomach and his opponent with vow down. It was just Donaire is strong to survive but he wasn't anymore engaging aggressively after that heavy blow in the stomach.

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