Topic: Inoue vs Donaire II discussion - page 31. (Read 8184 times)

It was Manny Pacquiao who made the Philippines more known and that Filipino boxers aren't to be underestimated easily, and yes I agree that Donaire now carries the torch for the Philippines until he retires like Pacquiao did and he will be followed by the new generations which is Magsayo and Casimero. Win or lose, the Filipinos are still proud of Donaire.

Challenge for both of them for the fact that both of them facing great fighter on their generation but I believe the momentum is on Inoue right now because he already defeated Donaire on their last match so maybe from that they already know how this guys do his work in the boxing ring. But also in case of Donaire he already taste the killer body shot of Inoue so I guess he's prepared for that and do some good improvements towards Inoue's strength and able to study his weakness for better version of his self on their rematch.

Me and some are emphasizing Donaire's age because it is a factor. How could we not include in our analysis when it is clear as day that he is not the same fighter anymore. We can talk about skills but knowing the other guy's skills isn't the same because of aging then it will be worth mentioning. It would be a shame talking about how poor Michael Jordan and the Wizards cannot compete against the top like the previous championship Bulls team without considering his age. Or saying how weak Mike Tyson was against Kevin McBride. It's like discounting these legends and their previous achievements were just flukes because they lost when they became old. I can remember when Lomachenko said he is not interested fighting Pacman because the legend is past his prime and people would say he beat an older version. You guys seen GGG and Canelo's previous two fights? They were close. I beat their third match will make GGG minimum x3.

I just talked with an fb friend and he's also an admin of our boxing group. The Ring magazine (the bible of boxing) reporter and editor. He's also a member of the BWAA a rival of The Ring when it comes to the highest awards in boxing. I just cut and shaded some of it because he is also linked to local media. Anyways, best wishes to Donaire but I think Inoue will be smarter this time, he won't engage much and maybe he can also stop Donaire in the late rounds.

Inoue is good as well.

This is like a challenging moment for both of them and we as fans, we're really going to tell that our bet is stronger and better. But as someone who likes to see both of them with their matches.

We can conclude that they have their own advantages.

Experiences are there and they don't lack from it.

Well he represents the Filipinos no doubt, but it was really Manny who bring the flag on the country into the limelight.

But at this time, it's Donaire that still carrying the torch because Manny has retired and hopefully Filipinos can continue to dominate boxing world because they are a very hard nose fighter and willing to give up everything in the ring. So with that said, Donaire should make the Filipino proud again if he can pull one of the biggest upsets, against Inoue although as I have said, the chance might be slim, but who knows.

I've been into the boxing world since start of the Era of Manny Pacquiao and many people see the potential in this man after he represents the Philippines the name of Donaire are now continuously shining like the shadow of Manny and now he creates a good image into the world of boxing because of being flashy in the ring he called as the Filipino Flash which he work hard to it's speed and foot work I guess this match would bring a really good match and I vote for Donaire still.

You are right, for now Donaire has a very good advantage but you have to think that Inoue has a very good technique, on the other hand I like to make an analogy between Donaire and GGG, both are fighters who are believed that due to their age they cannot have the same performance, but a user here in the forum said a comment that is absolutely right, and that is that as long as you stay active in sports you have active muscles and in turn have the experience that everyone would like to have, of course, this is not compared to youth, juventus is another power, but experience, as in everything, is worth it.

With Donaire's performance in the previous fight I think this will indeed be a pretty good odds but in this case it will be like a random fight in my opinion in odds because both fighters still have a chance to win there. Donaire with his strength and experience and Inoue with his strength and endurance I think it's quite difficult to determine who will win because both fighters are still very good

You are right about the age but Donaire is still in good shape despite his age. As far as technical analysis is concerned, I doubt age is really a disadvantage on his part against Naoya Inoue. There is no doubt that Naoya Inoue does all the advantages against Nonito Donaire but why does the Filipino Flash even consider the next match for Inoue if he is just nothing but an old boxer that is almost close to retirement?

Honestly, only people here are considering age as a disadvantage for Donaire but you will never see Inoue's side taking that as their advantage as they know more about the capability of Nonito Donaire.

I fully disagree with you here. The first injury of Inoue was in early rounds therefore, he should be at 100% healthy status on that match. Donaire just does his best to connect some good punch at Inoue. It's not that he's careless but Donaire just found a spot where Inoue didn't defend well. But since Inoue is in his prime, he is able to withstand the pain and work his way to bring his A-game in the later part of the fight and win by unanimous decision.

Inoue even called Donaire a Champion after a fight as he truly recognized the strength of that "old boxer".

As mentioned on some article that he had already thought that he wont able to knock down Donaire as early as 2nd round which he had made out some adjustments and trying to win via Decision.
He had already suffered that injury in orbital on 2nd round which comes worst on later rounds which he even said that he saw 2 donaires before the fight ended.
which basically shows that Donaire could really still have the chance.
You could read up even more on here: https://www.boxingscene.com/inoue-shivers-thinking-back-broken-orbital-bone-double-vision-versus-donaire--152904

We'll see.
Both are going to prepare themselves at the best capacity that they can. Usually with rematches, I find it as the better match up and this is going to give each of them the pride to win and put their best for beating the opponent. The mindset has always been the same and for sure that they'll have it show when they face again. Glory and revenge for Donaire is going to be the main attitude of him on this rematch.

Naoya Inoue suffered a fractured orbital bone and also a broken nose in that fight and the only reason is that he is careless? lol.

That's out of context. Those injuries that Inoue suffers are a result of Donaire's strength and strategy. It's not because Inoue is careless as to how is that even possible when he is serious all the time. It's like saying Donaire is just lucky to injure Inoue because of being careless in that fight?

It's like looking down at Inoue's way of defense and putting doubt on Donaire's strength that he can possibly fatally hit the prime monster in that fight.

I think the chances for Donaire to loss again is high. But we want to see a good fight again, and maybe Donaire learn from it and will try to make adjustment and work very hard on training and give his 100% to upset Inoue. Or if Inoue is really too good at this division and nobody can touch and beat him. And if by chance Inoue wins, then he has only one boxer to face to clean up this division for good.

Yes age does matter cause when a boxer getting old and older their movement speed gets slower, but we should not underestimate older boxers cause even they are getting slower but they are also more vigilant and more veteran in fighting they are more strategic in fighting. Like GGG and manny, Pacquiao did when they are fighting against younger opponents,

Overall it was not close because the result was a unanimous victory by Inoue, it was just that time Inoue was too careless and he was injured, good thing he knows how to handle himself and he adjusted in order to win the fight. I am seeing the same result in the rematch because of Donaire could still not KO Inoue, for sure he will loss again.

Yeah, he was too close on beating up Inoue on that time if he wasnt really gassed out and havent been knocked down.Donaire would really be persevering on having some good comeback or revenge on this upcoming fight
trying to prove out for him to be the best on this division which same as you said but of course Inoue wont really make things to happen easily yet he wont be called something if he was just easy to be beaten up.
Lots had been considering on betting with Donaire because he does really have that big chance on winning this.

The first fight was really close, and we have to understand as well that it was a tournament, WBSS (World Boxing Super Series), and we have seen the best bantamweight that time and it was Donaire and Inoue. Donaire though fell short and lost, but since then Donaire has won a belt so this clash has more motivation on the side of Nonito to avenge his lost at that tournament and show the world that he is the best bantamweight in this rematch.

We've seen their first encounter or fight and that one didnt really disappoint because we've seen that they had give their best and thats one is entertaining which fight should really be
not like on other fights which is boring to look at but thats not the case of their first fight and anticipate that on next or on to their rematch then we would be seeing much more
better since they had prepared something to counter and specially trying to patch up their flaws.

Certainly! These people are just following the hype in the surroundings and are just automatically siding who is the favorite to win on this fight without digging any further before making some baseless statement like that, I bet they don't even know what Donaire had achieved throughout his whole career.

Since Donaire started doing professional fights in the early 2000's, he's getting 3 to 4 fights per year until he reached the age of 30 where he only fought once or twice a year and then someone say that his age can be a basis? That's funny. Just like when people doubt against GGG's capabilities because of age reasons.