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August 18, 2021, 04:58:29 PM


Big changes because Inoue can't just let this go as he is already heavily disrespected, showing dirty finger in the live television, that is very disrespectful as the fans of Inoue had already seen it. They were disrespected and they are pushing Inoue to fight, that's the reason why Inoue wants this to finish once in for all.
The boxing community wants this fight to happen instead of the Inoue fight, talks of Inoue and Donaire rematch only surface because Donaire wins another title in a very impressive way, but there will be no changes in the fight because Inoue wins by unanimous and he dominates Donaire, the boxing fans wants the Casimero fight to push through, so we'll know once and for all who is the real king of that division.
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August 18, 2021, 04:13:38 PM
Who's going to fight first?

I think Casimoero's strategy is very effective, Inoue was disrespected by him so he wants to fight him now.

Here's the latest news about that.

Inoue takes notice of Casimero antics: ‘Please organize a match’
Smells like this fight would really push through rather than on Donaire vs Inoue but lets see if Donaire would be still next on line to fight with the monsters but it seems there would be some changes in the wind on here.

Big changes because Inoue can't just let this go as he is already heavily disrespected, showing dirty finger in the live television, that is very disrespectful as the fans of Inoue had already seen it. They were disrespected and they are pushing Inoue to fight, that's the reason why Inoue wants this to finish once in for all.
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August 18, 2021, 04:04:56 PM
Who's going to fight first?
With this statement of Inoue, looks like he is really challenged for underestimating him despite he is the most successful boxer in their division.
The Inoue vs Donaire II is not yet signed into contract yet, so we might see an Inoue vs Casimero fight and whoever wins the fight could fight Nonito.

I think Casimoero's strategy is very effective, Inoue was disrespected by him so he wants to fight him now.

Here's the latest news about that.

Inoue takes notice of Casimero antics: ‘Please organize a match’

It was only very effective now, maybe Inoue already sees Casimero as a great challenger as he already beat Rigo which is hard to crack due to his defensive style. I'm excited as well, hopefully, we will see a development of this fight and will come into reality.
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August 18, 2021, 04:03:40 PM
Who's going to fight first?

I think Casimoero's strategy is very effective, Inoue was disrespected by him so he wants to fight him now.

Here's the latest news about that.

Inoue takes notice of Casimero antics: ‘Please organize a match’
Smells like this fight would really push through rather than on Donaire vs Inoue but lets see if Donaire would be still next on line to fight with the monsters but it seems there would be some changes in the wind on here.
Casimero might looked to be bad ass but i wont be surprised if it would be shutdown by Inoue. Honestly, the recent fight with Rigo doesnt really show up something remarkable.

Even though he won that fight but doesnt really convince me that kind of performance would really be enough on taking down Inoue.

I guess we should blame that to Rigondeaux for just running the whole night. He does not engage well with Casimero and it resulted in a boring fight.

But THIS!... I'm sure Inoue vs Casimero is a firepower fight as no one would certainly back down, and this is also a chance for Casimero to prove that h is not only good at talking trash, he is also good in the ring which could KO the Monster of Japan.

Casimero should continue doing trash talk before the contract is finalize, it's helping him.
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August 18, 2021, 03:59:31 PM
Who's going to fight first?

I think Casimoero's strategy is very effective, Inoue was disrespected by him so he wants to fight him now.

Here's the latest news about that.

Inoue takes notice of Casimero antics: ‘Please organize a match’
Smells like this fight would really push through rather than on Donaire vs Inoue but lets see if Donaire would be still next on line to fight with the monsters but it seems there would be some changes in the wind on here.
Casimero might looked to be bad ass but i wont be surprised if it would be shutdown by Inoue. Honestly, the recent fight with Rigo doesnt really show up something remarkable.

Even though he won that fight but doesnt really convince me that kind of performance would really be enough on taking down Inoue.
Now that Inoue had already showing up some interest or response to that middle finger turns out to be a provocation which turns out to be effective.
I would rather prefer on seeing Casimero vs Inoue than with Donaire rematch.
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August 18, 2021, 03:56:32 PM
Who's going to fight first?

I think Casimoero's strategy is very effective, Inoue was disrespected by him so he wants to fight him now.

Here's the latest news about that.

Inoue takes notice of Casimero antics: ‘Please organize a match’
Smells like this fight would really push through rather than on Donaire vs Inoue but lets see if Donaire would be still next on line to fight with the monsters but it seems there would be some changes in the wind on here.
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August 18, 2021, 03:45:54 PM
Who's going to fight first?

I think Casimoero's strategy is very effective, Inoue was disrespected by him so he wants to fight him now.

Here's the latest news about that.

Inoue takes notice of Casimero antics: ‘Please organize a match’
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July 26, 2021, 02:49:15 PM
Both camps are still silent. So we have no idea if this Inoue-Donaire II will materialize soon. In case, Casimero wins over Rigo, I believe Inoue-Casimero will happen much early. Maybe they are still weighing their options here. Let us see once the bout of Casimero-Rigo is finished.

I'm thinking the other way. If Casimero will win against Rigo, there might be another negotiation between him and Donaire's camp.

Inoue also might not accept the offer and instead will ask Casimero's camp to fight Inoue first or maybe he directly match with Donaire and ignore Casimero.

On that issue where the fight was cancelled between Donaire and Casimero, Inoue sided with Donaire so I doubt that he will just accept Casimero's challenge unless it will be a unification match.

It would be easier for Inoue if he will just wait, let the Casimero vs Donaire fight happen, and whoever wins will fight him. For me, I like that scenario to happen, but if Donaire will not change his mind, Inoue might be forced to fight the two boxers, probably Inoue vs Donaire is the first, then if Inoue will win, we will see a big unification fight between Inoue and Casimero.

Inoue is the hottest fighter in his division but IMO Donaire is the most popular, so Inoue would rather choose Donaire first for better fight revenue and a better chance of winning again. If in case Inoue will lose in the fight, they can set up a rematch or even a trilogy and both fighters will make money, if that will happen, Casimero might choose to move up in weight as he cannot wait for the winner of this two for years.
Depends!

because 2 years time isnt really that long if we are talking about possible fights to have on a certain boxer inside on 1 year time.Yes, most likely they would be choosing up on whose fighter would

really be that worth to pick on considering into those main factors where making money is one of the priority and they would surely be going into more popular than the other since they do know that

they can make more revenue instead on sticking into other boxer which is less known or popular to the other one.
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July 26, 2021, 02:05:47 PM

Inoue is the hottest fighter in his division but IMO Donaire is the most popular, so Inoue would rather choose Donaire first for better fight revenue and a better chance of winning again. If in case Inoue will lose in the fight, they can set up a rematch or even a trilogy and both fighters will make money, if that will happen, Casimero might choose to move up in weight as he cannot wait for the winner of this two for years.

yeah right, better opponents with high amount of money that will flow within the fight. Inoue has that privilege to choose and like what you have said, Donaire is more popular after winning his last fight the money is much better if promoters will deal with it in the right perspectives.
And with how you assess Casimiros chances to fight Inoue depends if He(Inoue) take down again Donaire but if in case that Donaire win.

Casimero might move up instead of waiting, trilogy is very possible as again, money will flow more especially if the fight really brings more actions between Inoue and Donaire.
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July 26, 2021, 10:10:47 AM
Both camps are still silent. So we have no idea if this Inoue-Donaire II will materialize soon. In case, Casimero wins over Rigo, I believe Inoue-Casimero will happen much early. Maybe they are still weighing their options here. Let us see once the bout of Casimero-Rigo is finished.

I'm thinking the other way. If Casimero will win against Rigo, there might be another negotiation between him and Donaire's camp.

Inoue also might not accept the offer and instead will ask Casimero's camp to fight Inoue first or maybe he directly match with Donaire and ignore Casimero.

On that issue where the fight was cancelled between Donaire and Casimero, Inoue sided with Donaire so I doubt that he will just accept Casimero's challenge unless it will be a unification match.

It would be easier for Inoue if he will just wait, let the Casimero vs Donaire fight happen, and whoever wins will fight him. For me, I like that scenario to happen, but if Donaire will not change his mind, Inoue might be forced to fight the two boxers, probably Inoue vs Donaire is the first, then if Inoue will win, we will see a big unification fight between Inoue and Casimero.

Inoue is the hottest fighter in his division but IMO Donaire is the most popular, so Inoue would rather choose Donaire first for better fight revenue and a better chance of winning again. If in case Inoue will lose in the fight, they can set up a rematch or even a trilogy and both fighters will make money, if that will happen, Casimero might choose to move up in weight as he cannot wait for the winner of this two for years.
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July 26, 2021, 10:04:24 AM
Both camps are still silent. So we have no idea if this Inoue-Donaire II will materialize soon. In case, Casimero wins over Rigo, I believe Inoue-Casimero will happen much early. Maybe they are still weighing their options here. Let us see once the bout of Casimero-Rigo is finished.

I'm thinking the other way. If Casimero will win against Rigo, there might be another negotiation between him and Donaire's camp.

Inoue also might not accept the offer and instead will ask Casimero's camp to fight Inoue first or maybe he directly match with Donaire and ignore Casimero.

On that issue where the fight was cancelled between Donaire and Casimero, Inoue sided with Donaire so I doubt that he will just accept Casimero's challenge unless it will be a unification match.

It would be easier for Inoue if he will just wait, let the Casimero vs Donaire fight happen, and whoever wins will fight him. For me, I like that scenario to happen, but if Donaire will not change his mind, Inoue might be forced to fight the two boxers, probably Inoue vs Donaire is the first, then if Inoue will win, we will see a big unification fight between Inoue and Casimero.
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July 26, 2021, 09:59:05 AM
Inoue and Donaire had their own respective belts already, so they can unify it by themselves. I'm not thinking that maybe they are negotiating behind close doors, doesn't want to leak this to boxing media until it is official.

They can't. Afaik, a unification match is a decision for boxing organizers, not for titleholders.

But I agree with you that there's no negotiation yet or maybe just a few talks but not official since both have respective works to do for now. Maybe after the Casimero and Rigo fight, regardless of the winner, there will be some talks within each camp. In the case of Casimero, he will voice out that Inoue should fight him and that's where the talks will begin. Either Inoue will respond Yes to Casimero, ignore him, or a rematch with Donaire first, or the Casimero vs Donaire will now go through.
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July 26, 2021, 08:20:43 AM


He cancelled the fight with Casimero because of the personal attacks on him and his family.

But he has option B - the Inoue fight, which is more exciting to see against a all Filipino war.

No one is underestimating Donaire, it's that he is facing the Monster who beat him in the first fight although somewhat he won because he as able to break Inoue's orbital bone.
and a considered as Rematch , We know how close their last fight was and I believe that if there is a chance to make it best again then this is the right time.

This will turn out as decision making for Donaire that if he lose on this one then he might really consider Retiring as We also believe that he is in the right age of leaving the boxing arena and become at least a Trainor or a manager depend on what next step he is planning for.

But i will still go for Donaire in this one no matter how advantageous Inoue is.

But no talks yet from both camps. It seems they are waiting for Casimero-Rigo results. We don't know if they are already discussing this potential fight. But if they will see high demand from boxing fans, they may schedule it very soon. However, no indication yet that they are into this re-match.

Probably, but it doesn't make sense if they are going for the result of Casimero vs Rigo fight.

Inoue and Donaire had their own respective belts already, so they can unify it by themselves. I'm not thinking that maybe they are negotiating behind close doors, doesn't want to leak this to boxing media until it is official. Both of them come from impressive wins, and they are not that damage. So maybe a couple of weeks rest and then negotiation can begin.

Guillermo Rigondeaux also has the belt, as you can see here https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/492989

He is the current WBA Bantam Weight champion, while Casimero is the WBO Bantamweight champion.
In this fight, they are risking their respective belts.

It's nice of Casimero will be able to win the fight so he will get that belt, and after this fight, I think Rigondeaux has no option but to retire.

I know everyone is excited to see this fight, it will be in less than 3 weeks and it's just a gift if Casimero will be the underdog of this fight.
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July 26, 2021, 07:01:46 AM


He cancelled the fight with Casimero because of the personal attacks on him and his family.

But he has option B - the Inoue fight, which is more exciting to see against a all Filipino war.

No one is underestimating Donaire, it's that he is facing the Monster who beat him in the first fight although somewhat he won because he as able to break Inoue's orbital bone.
and a considered as Rematch , We know how close their last fight was and I believe that if there is a chance to make it best again then this is the right time.

This will turn out as decision making for Donaire that if he lose on this one then he might really consider Retiring as We also believe that he is in the right age of leaving the boxing arena and become at least a Trainor or a manager depend on what next step he is planning for.

But i will still go for Donaire in this one no matter how advantageous Inoue is.

But no talks yet from both camps. It seems they are waiting for Casimero-Rigo results. We don't know if they are already discussing this potential fight. But if they will see high demand from boxing fans, they may schedule it very soon. However, no indication yet that they are into this re-match.

Probably, but it doesn't make sense if they are going for the result of Casimero vs Rigo fight.

Inoue and Donaire had their own respective belts already, so they can unify it by themselves. I'm not thinking that maybe they are negotiating behind close doors, doesn't want to leak this to boxing media until it is official. Both of them come from impressive wins, and they are not that damage. So maybe a couple of weeks rest and then negotiation can begin.

Guillermo Rigondeaux also has the belt, as you can see here https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/492989

He is the current WBA Bantam Weight champion, while Casimero is the WBO Bantamweight champion.
In this fight, they are risking their respective belts.
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July 26, 2021, 03:41:40 AM


He cancelled the fight with Casimero because of the personal attacks on him and his family.

But he has option B - the Inoue fight, which is more exciting to see against a all Filipino war.

No one is underestimating Donaire, it's that he is facing the Monster who beat him in the first fight although somewhat he won because he as able to break Inoue's orbital bone.
and a considered as Rematch , We know how close their last fight was and I believe that if there is a chance to make it best again then this is the right time.

This will turn out as decision making for Donaire that if he lose on this one then he might really consider Retiring as We also believe that he is in the right age of leaving the boxing arena and become at least a Trainor or a manager depend on what next step he is planning for.

But i will still go for Donaire in this one no matter how advantageous Inoue is.

But no talks yet from both camps. It seems they are waiting for Casimero-Rigo results. We don't know if they are already discussing this potential fight. But if they will see high demand from boxing fans, they may schedule it very soon. However, no indication yet that they are into this re-match.

Probably, but it doesn't make sense if they are going for the result of Casimero vs Rigo fight.

Inoue and Donaire had their own respective belts already, so they can unify it by themselves. I'm not thinking that maybe they are negotiating behind close doors, doesn't want to leak this to boxing media until it is official. Both of them come from impressive wins, and they are not that damage. So maybe a couple of weeks rest and then negotiation can begin.
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July 26, 2021, 03:01:51 AM
Both camps are still silent. So we have no idea if this Inoue-Donaire II will materialize soon. In case, Casimero wins over Rigo, I believe Inoue-Casimero will happen much early. Maybe they are still weighing their options here. Let us see once the bout of Casimero-Rigo is finished.

I'm thinking the other way. If Casimero will win against Rigo, there might be another negotiation between him and Donaire's camp.

Inoue also might not accept the offer and instead will ask Casimero's camp to fight Inoue first or maybe he directly match with Donaire and ignore Casimero.

On that issue where the fight was cancelled between Donaire and Casimero, Inoue sided with Donaire so I doubt that he will just accept Casimero's challenge unless it will be a unification match.
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July 25, 2021, 05:39:12 PM


He cancelled the fight with Casimero because of the personal attacks on him and his family.

But he has option B - the Inoue fight, which is more exciting to see against a all Filipino war.

No one is underestimating Donaire, it's that he is facing the Monster who beat him in the first fight although somewhat he won because he as able to break Inoue's orbital bone.
and a considered as Rematch , We know how close their last fight was and I believe that if there is a chance to make it best again then this is the right time.

This will turn out as decision making for Donaire that if he lose on this one then he might really consider Retiring as We also believe that he is in the right age of leaving the boxing arena and become at least a Trainor or a manager depend on what next step he is planning for.

But i will still go for Donaire in this one no matter how advantageous Inoue is.

But no talks yet from both camps. It seems they are waiting for Casimero-Rigo results. We don't know if they are already discussing this potential fight. But if they will see high demand from boxing fans, they may schedule it very soon. However, no indication yet that they are into this re-match.
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July 25, 2021, 04:56:27 PM


He cancelled the fight with Casimero because of the personal attacks on him and his family.

But he has option B - the Inoue fight, which is more exciting to see against a all Filipino war.

No one is underestimating Donaire, it's that he is facing the Monster who beat him in the first fight although somewhat he won because he as able to break Inoue's orbital bone.
and a considered as Rematch , We know how close their last fight was and I believe that if there is a chance to make it best again then this is the right time.

This will turn out as decision making for Donaire that if he lose on this one then he might really consider Retiring as We also believe that he is in the right age of leaving the boxing arena and become at least a Trainor or a manager depend on what next step he is planning for.

But i will still go for Donaire in this one no matter how advantageous Inoue is.

I saw the last fight and I don't really see it as a close fight as the result says it's Inoue who dominates the fight. Yes, there are situations in the fight that Inoue had struggled a bit, he was actually injured but he is smart enough to finish and still dominate the fight, Donaire was lucky he was able to survive the puchens of Inoue.

Probably of all the fights of Inoue, that fight was the closest although the decision is a unanimous win by him.

As we can see on his record (https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/628407), most of his wins are in KO, he has 21 fights, 18 of it are in KO while 3 are in UD.
So it's reasonable to say that Donaire gave him a little problem, and in fact he injured Inoue in this fight.
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July 25, 2021, 07:32:43 AM


He cancelled the fight with Casimero because of the personal attacks on him and his family.

But he has option B - the Inoue fight, which is more exciting to see against a all Filipino war.

No one is underestimating Donaire, it's that he is facing the Monster who beat him in the first fight although somewhat he won because he as able to break Inoue's orbital bone.
and a considered as Rematch , We know how close their last fight was and I believe that if there is a chance to make it best again then this is the right time.

This will turn out as decision making for Donaire that if he lose on this one then he might really consider Retiring as We also believe that he is in the right age of leaving the boxing arena and become at least a Trainor or a manager depend on what next step he is planning for.

But i will still go for Donaire in this one no matter how advantageous Inoue is.

I saw the last fight and I don't really see it as a close fight as the result says it's Inoue who dominates the fight. Yes, there are situations in the fight that Inoue had struggled a bit, he was actually injured but he is smart enough to finish and still dominate the fight, Donaire was lucky he was able to survive the puchens of Inoue.
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July 24, 2021, 09:06:12 PM

The age factor is not a big deal, IMO, Inoue is just the better fighter and he will win against Donaire.

In the first fight, we saw how Inoue had dominated the fight, I think the same thing will happen in the rematch.
Donaire understands his chances, but he also wants to take a big risk because if he wins, he will get a good reward for being a unified champion.
I like Donaire because he is not afraid of taking big fights, but this time, I just feel Donaire has faced the best fighter in the division and he can't beat him.

Worth the risk, knowing that he's not getting any younger and if luck hits him then retiring with this kind of achievements is really sweet Wink

But statistically right, Inoue is more younger, skilled and powerful than Donaire, we all witness that from the first fight and from those other fights of Inoue, comparing will favor Inoue.

can't wait for this rematch, still siding for Donaire  Roll Eyes Grin Goodluck though!
Or maybe Nonito is reallylooking for His final Fight before retiring and he found that Inoue is the best contender .

He had already Lose in their first bout so if he lose again then that is deciding factor to retire.

But the thing is if he wins this time as surely the final bout will happen again for decision.
This could be his last and maybe this is also one of the reason why they cancelled their supposedly match between Casimero.

Donaire should do everything to atleast have a chance to win but for sure Inoue will also take this seriously because he's a champion and he has to defend the belt as much as possible.

Age plays a big role but we should not underestimate Nonito because he's also a good boxer. This rematch should happen because we deserve to witness great matches again, I'll place my bet on where the odds is.
Indeed, At least in case This was his last fight he made it with the Finest boxer of Another country and not with His Own Kababayan .

and this is also one of His Most Historic fight and will be remembered if ever this will his retirement fight.
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