Inoue vs Donaire II discussion - page 55.

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Quote from: Russlenat on July 22, 2021, 09:22:10 AM

The age factor is not a big deal, IMO, Inoue is just the better fighter and he will win against Donaire.

In the first fight, we saw how Inoue had dominated the fight, I think the same thing will happen in the rematch.
Donaire understands his chances, but he also wants to take a big risk because if he wins, he will get a good reward for being a unified champion.
I like Donaire because he is not afraid of taking big fights, but this time, I just feel Donaire has faced the best fighter in the division and he can't beat him.

Worth the risk, knowing that he's not getting any younger and if luck hits him then retiring with this kind of achievements is really sweet Wink

But statistically right, Inoue is more younger, skilled and powerful than Donaire, we all witness that from the first fight and from those other fights of Inoue, comparing will favor Inoue.

can't wait for this rematch, still siding for Donaire Roll Eyes

Goodluck though!

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Quote from: YOSHIE on July 22, 2021, 09:06:07 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on July 22, 2021, 08:19:26 AM

Skills and talent, these both fighter have it.

Agree, They both have professional careers in boxing championships.

Inoue he is from japan, i admit his attack and hit ratio, he won the WBA, IBF title in 19, so he got the title with the nickname 'moster' in 2012.
Boxer donaire comes from the Philippines, I do not underestimate in the ring against Inoue this time, Donaire also has speed and strength that is recognized by many boxing fans, he's also won several titles and is also a WBC bantamweight champion, I'd say both have strengths.

Conclusion: for both of them between Donaire vs. Inoue if they bet in the boxing ring this time, I will see from the age factor, you must know what I mean, age assessment.

The age factor is not a big deal, IMO, Inoue is just the better fighter and he will win against Donaire.

In the first fight, we saw how Inoue had dominated the fight, I think the same thing will happen in the rematch.
Donaire understands his chances, but he also wants to take a big risk because if he wins, he will get a good reward for being a unified champion.
I like Donaire because he is not afraid of taking big fights, but this time, I just feel Donaire has faced the best fighter in the division and he can't beat him.

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Quote from: Oasisman on July 22, 2021, 08:19:26 AM

Skills and talent, these both fighter have it.

Agree, They both have professional careers in boxing championships.

Inoue he is from japan, i admit his attack and hit ratio, he won the WBA, IBF title in 19, so he got the title with the nickname 'moster' in 2012.
Boxer donaire comes from the Philippines, I do not underestimate in the ring against Inoue this time, Donaire also has speed and strength that is recognized by many boxing fans, he's also won several titles and is also a WBC bantamweight champion, I'd say both have strengths.

Conclusion: for both of them between Donaire vs. Inoue if they bet in the boxing ring this time, I will see from the age factor, you must know what I mean, age assessment.

Quote from: Russlenat on July 22, 2021, 09:22:10 AM

Maybe, we'll see, when the show takes place in the ring.

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Quote from: Sanitough on July 03, 2021, 07:10:27 AM

Since Donaire vs Casimero fight is already off, and we heard a lot of rumors that Donaire will be fighting Inou.

Donaire and inoue are both the greatest bettors right now in the boxing ring, i often see the way they bet, to be honest i myself often say for them donaire the legend and inoue the monster.

Do you mean boxers? because I have not heard that they are betting on their games and I think it's inappropriate too.
Well, Donaire is a legend, but not a legendary status with Manny Pacquiao, he had some big fights, win a championship but he ranks just at the level or ordinary champion, nothing so special with him, but I believe Inoue is something special.

^ It is possible and we don't know since they have many people, if you are confident enough to yourself that you will win on that match, it is good sometimes if you will bet your own fight for the multiple winning, sounds greedy but who knows there are players thinking the same of what I have mentioned. Regarding Inoue, there will be a chance that he could knock down Manny Pacquiao, all of these are unpredictable fights and we don't know who will be win this fight or it is time for Manny to resign and give up his boxing career and proceed to a political career which is next year he will run for the presidential candidate.

I'm not sure if it's really allowed to bet on yourself because when you do that, that could mean you can fix the game, actually, it's easier to intentionally lose than winning the fight, so let's say you have a big fight and there's a big market for the particular fight, then you can just bet $20 million for yourself to lose, that's easy money, probably easier than what you will make in a certain fight.

For sure this is a big market as this is a unification fight of two champions, but $20 million is very small compared to what they will get in their future fight if they win, but we don't know what they think, maybe for Donaire as he is old now and he probably gets some good retirement fund, but hopefully these things will not enter in his mind and he will remain a clean fighter.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on July 21, 2021, 05:25:06 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on July 21, 2021, 04:58:09 PM

Quote from: YOSHIE on July 21, 2021, 10:17:02 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on July 03, 2021, 07:10:27 AM

Since Donaire vs Casimero fight is already off, and we heard a lot of rumors that Donaire will be fighting Inou.

Donaire and inoue are both the greatest bettors right now in the boxing ring, i often see the way they bet, to be honest i myself often say for them donaire the legend and inoue the monster.

Do you mean boxers? because I have not heard that they are betting on their games and I think it's inappropriate too.
Well, Donaire is a legend, but not a legendary status with Manny Pacquiao, he had some big fights, win a championship but he ranks just at the level or ordinary champion, nothing so special with him, but I believe Inoue is something special.

^ It is possible and we don't know since they have many people, if you are confident enough to yourself that you will win on that match, it is good sometimes if you will bet your own fight for the multiple winning, sounds greedy but who knows there are players thinking the same of what I have mentioned. Regarding Inoue, there will be a chance that he could knock down Manny Pacquiao, all of these are unpredictable fights and we don't know who will be win this fight or it is time for Manny to resign and give up his boxing career and proceed to a political career which is next year he will run for the presidential candidate.

I'm not sure if it's really allowed to bet on yourself because when you do that, that could mean you can fix the game, actually, it's easier to intentionally lose than winning the fight, so let's say you have a big fight and there's a big market for the particular fight, then you can just bet $20 million for yourself to lose, that's easy money, probably easier than what you will make in a certain fight.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on July 21, 2021, 07:07:52 PM

Ohhhhh, dammit, I was really drunk last night, my head was drowning in a pussy, so I made some members in this forum unable to sleep, due to my post wrongly writing 'boxer' and 'bettor'.

Now i'm sober and my memory is back to normal, and i see this reply, really, what should I do with the spelling of that word, boxers and bettors, should I contact the mod/admin, and tell them I made a typo, should I create a topic across the boards provided on this forum and write, sorry I wrote wrong, damn it.

Lol
I was literally reading your post above with a drunk voice inside my head Cheesy

I was wondering what would be your first reaction after reading your post when you're sober.

Anyways, to keep myself on topic I would be in favour of Inoue in the 2nd fight. Well, simply because he's definitely on his prime and still climbing the ladder up while Donaire is going down the ladder. Meaning, age really matters when you have a tough opponent. But don't get me wrong, Donaire always have the chance to beat Inoue in the 2nd fight. Skills and talent, these both fighter have it.

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This is a too much close fight but again we know that Donaire is one of the good fighter he can take back all of his opponents and we know that he is one of the best fighters in the Philippines base on my perspective he is the top2 or the second rank among here because of his fight but Inoue for sure does not give an easy game for Donaire.

Well it's a strategy with mental and physical strength it depends on their will how it goes.

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Quote from: Kittygalore on July 21, 2021, 08:54:26 AM

If Donaire can't match Inoue's speed and Inoue improves his timing and power on par with Donaire, I think that we will probably see another win for Inoue if the same fight as the last time happens again.

This is just my personal opinion after watching their first fight, if Donaire can't hit Inoue with those lethal left hooks successively then I think he is bound to lose again in the rematch. Inoue has his orbital bone broken by Donaire so I think he would be careful this time not to commit the same mistake again and adjust so Donaire will not be comfortable in the rematch.

Donaire's advantage here is experience but looking at how Inoue has evolved into a monster, I think this rematch still belongs to the Monster.

Yeah, it's a matter of who will adjust in the next fight, Donaire might go with his lethal left hook early and time Inoue. Or Inoue being careful this time because he knows that Donaire can hurt him as much as the first fight.

And Inoue's is dominant after his win on Donaire, knocking out his opponent. So he has improved a lot and learn from those fights. Very confident and developed into a monster in the ring vs Donaire's resiliency and experience.

But still very different when he faces Donaire again. He knows that Donaire can damage his eye and even if he improved a lot after their first meeting, he might see some glimpse of the first time specially if Donaire can executed his left hook and hit Inoue with force. So Inoue has something to think about going into this fight. Sure he is the favorite, but Donaire wanted to avenge his lost and will look for the famous left hook of his to finish Inoue. Still very close fight in my card.

Inoue will eventually adjust in the rematch, he would not allow Donaire to injured him again, maybe's Inoue's game plan at the start is being aggressive and will end Donaire early, but he was wrong because Donaire had a good counter that has injured him, but if he fights smartly using his quickness, then for sure Donaire would not be able to catch him.

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Quote from: Kemarit on July 21, 2021, 08:15:44 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on July 21, 2021, 04:46:59 PM

Quote from: Kittygalore on July 21, 2021, 08:54:26 AM

If Donaire can't match Inoue's speed and Inoue improves his timing and power on par with Donaire, I think that we will probably see another win for Inoue if the same fight as the last time happens again.

This is just my personal opinion after watching their first fight, if Donaire can't hit Inoue with those lethal left hooks successively then I think he is bound to lose again in the rematch. Inoue has his orbital bone broken by Donaire so I think he would be careful this time not to commit the same mistake again and adjust so Donaire will not be comfortable in the rematch.

Donaire's advantage here is experience but looking at how Inoue has evolved into a monster, I think this rematch still belongs to the Monster.

Yeah, it's a matter of who will adjust in the next fight, Donaire might go with his lethal left hook early and time Inoue. Or Inoue being careful this time because he knows that Donaire can hurt him as much as the first fight.

And Inoue's is dominant after his win on Donaire, knocking out his opponent. So he has improved a lot and learn from those fights. Very confident and developed into a monster in the ring vs Donaire's resiliency and experience.

But still very different when he faces Donaire again. He knows that Donaire can damage his eye and even if he improved a lot after their first meeting, he might see some glimpse of the first time specially if Donaire can executed his left hook and hit Inoue with force. So Inoue has something to think about going into this fight. Sure he is the favorite, but Donaire wanted to avenge his lost and will look for the famous left hook of his to finish Inoue. Still very close fight in my card.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on July 21, 2021, 07:07:52 PM

Ohhhhh, dammit, I was really drunk last night, my head was drowning in a pussy, so I made some members in this forum unable to sleep, due to my post wrongly writing 'boxer' and 'bettor'.

Now i'm sober and my memory is back to normal, and i see this reply, really, what should I do with the spelling of that word, boxers and bettors, should I contact the mod/admin, and tell them I made a typo, should I create a topic across the boards provided on this forum and write, sorry I wrote wrong, damn it.

Lol you can simply Edit your Posts and Send PM's to those who quoted you for editing also Grin

That will save your time and effort as you already admit Being Drunk while creating the post.

I am also at some point does this action but luckily that time No one quoted my post so i only edit it in the morning.

Just a piece of Advice , Never Post when you believe being total drunk Hahaha.

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I am still for Inoue on this Fight .

i'm sure both of them also bet for themselves whoever they fight with. so basically they are also bettors. Grin

there still is no date for the rematch, some articles are telling that it could be by the year-end. but with the delta variant, things may change.

there are boxers complaining about vaccine passports, Sunny Edwards made his complaint a trend for threatening to retire due to vaccine passports. this passport will also make it hard for organizing events.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on July 21, 2021, 07:07:52 PM

Ohhhhh, dammit, I was really drunk last night, my head was drowning in a pussy, so I made some members in this forum unable to sleep, due to my post wrongly writing 'boxer' and 'bettor'.

Now i'm sober and my memory is back to normal, and i see this reply, really, what should I do with the spelling of that word, boxers and bettors, should I contact the mod/admin, and tell them I made a typo, should I create a topic across the boards provided on this forum and write, sorry I wrote wrong, damn it.

Lol you can simply Edit your Posts and Send PM's to those who quoted you for editing also Grin

That will save your time and effort as you already admit Being Drunk while creating the post.

I am also at some point does this action but luckily that time No one quoted my post so i only edit it in the morning.

Just a piece of Advice , Never Post when you believe being total drunk Hahaha.

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I am still for Inoue on this Fight .

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Quote from: Kittygalore on July 21, 2021, 08:54:26 AM

If Donaire can't match Inoue's speed and Inoue improves his timing and power on par with Donaire, I think that we will probably see another win for Inoue if the same fight as the last time happens again.

What you said is obvious, I mean of course, if Donaire can't match that, likely he will lose.

But even for let's say Donaire was able to match Inoue's speed, I don't take it as an advantage against Inoue.

Remember that Donaire is the first boxer to give Inoue a hard fight to win and sent him to the hospital after. That experience alone makes Inoue put that as a priority not to happen again. He's now well-prepared for a new strategy to take down Donaire at any cost. I'm with the Donaire to win the match but I just can't take away some of the closest possibilities that might happen in the match. For now, 60/40 Inoue.

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Quote from: Kittygalore on July 21, 2021, 08:54:26 AM

If Donaire can't match Inoue's speed and Inoue improves his timing and power on par with Donaire, I think that we will probably see another win for Inoue if the same fight as the last time happens again.

Well Inoue had already Shown that Speed and Power against Nonito Donaire in their very first bout in 2019 in which he Remains undefeated .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0L1vYJ43mg

But Inoue really Shows His High Respect to the Filipino Boxer as he did come and Vow to donaire even before the announcement has been mate.

This Means the fight is purely skills and Title and no other that those , Very respected Fighters of all time.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on July 21, 2021, 04:46:59 PM

Quote from: Kittygalore on July 21, 2021, 08:54:26 AM

If Donaire can't match Inoue's speed and Inoue improves his timing and power on par with Donaire, I think that we will probably see another win for Inoue if the same fight as the last time happens again.

This is just my personal opinion after watching their first fight, if Donaire can't hit Inoue with those lethal left hooks successively then I think he is bound to lose again in the rematch. Inoue has his orbital bone broken by Donaire so I think he would be careful this time not to commit the same mistake again and adjust so Donaire will not be comfortable in the rematch.

Donaire's advantage here is experience but looking at how Inoue has evolved into a monster, I think this rematch still belongs to the Monster.

Yeah, it's a matter of who will adjust in the next fight, Donaire might go with his lethal left hook early and time Inoue. Or Inoue being careful this time because he knows that Donaire can hurt him as much as the first fight.

And Inoue's is dominant after his win on Donaire, knocking out his opponent. So he has improved a lot and learn from those fights. Very confident and developed into a monster in the ring vs Donaire's resiliency and experience.

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Ohhhhh, dammit, I was really drunk last night, my head was drowning in a pussy, so I made some members in this forum unable to sleep, due to my post wrongly writing 'boxer' and 'bettor'.

Now i'm sober and my memory is back to normal, and i see this reply, really, what should I do with the spelling of that word, boxers and bettors, should I contact the mod/admin, and tell them I made a typo, should I create a topic across the boards provided on this forum and write, sorry I wrote wrong, damn it.

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Quote from: Sanitough on July 21, 2021, 04:58:09 PM

Quote from: YOSHIE on July 21, 2021, 10:17:02 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on July 03, 2021, 07:10:27 AM

Since Donaire vs Casimero fight is already off, and we heard a lot of rumors that Donaire will be fighting Inou.

Donaire and inoue are both the greatest bettors right now in the boxing ring, i often see the way they bet, to be honest i myself often say for them donaire the legend and inoue the monster.

Do you mean boxers? because I have not heard that they are betting on their games and I think it's inappropriate too.
Well, Donaire is a legend, but not a legendary status with Manny Pacquiao, he had some big fights, win a championship but he ranks just at the level or ordinary champion, nothing so special with him, but I believe Inoue is something special.

^ It is possible and we don't know since they have many people, if you are confident enough to yourself that you will win on that match, it is good sometimes if you will bet your own fight for the multiple winning, sounds greedy but who knows there are players thinking the same of what I have mentioned. Regarding Inoue, there will be a chance that he could knock down Manny Pacquiao, all of these are unpredictable fights and we don't know who will be win this fight or it is time for Manny to resign and give up his boxing career and proceed to a political career which is next year he will run for the presidential candidate.

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Quote from: Sanitough on July 21, 2021, 04:58:09 PM

Quote from: YOSHIE on July 21, 2021, 10:17:02 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on July 03, 2021, 07:10:27 AM

Since Donaire vs Casimero fight is already off, and we heard a lot of rumors that Donaire will be fighting Inou.

Donaire and inoue are both the greatest bettors right now in the boxing ring, i often see the way they bet, to be honest i myself often say for them donaire the legend and inoue the monster.

Do you mean boxers? because I have not heard that they are betting on their games and I think it's inappropriate too.
Well, Donaire is a legend, but not a legendary status with Manny Pacquiao, he had some big fights, win a championship but he ranks just at the level or ordinary champion, nothing so special with him, but I believe Inoue is something special.

I guess, he really meant boxers here not bettors.
Donaire has not reached yet the status of Pacquiao, has a long way to go but I think it will not be long and Donaire will announce his retirement.
Unless, he wants to follow the journey of Pacquiao and fighting up until over age 40. But he's already 38 now.
So maybe, Inoue may be his last fight, if in case this will push thru. Let us see, because no talks yet from both camps about their next opponent.

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Quote from: Sanitough on July 21, 2021, 04:58:09 PM

Quote from: YOSHIE on July 21, 2021, 10:17:02 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on July 03, 2021, 07:10:27 AM

Since Donaire vs Casimero fight is already off, and we heard a lot of rumors that Donaire will be fighting Inou.

Donaire and inoue are both the greatest bettors right now in the boxing ring, i often see the way they bet, to be honest i myself often say for them donaire the legend and inoue the monster.

Do you mean boxers? because I have not heard that they are betting on their games and I think it's inappropriate too.
Well, Donaire is a legend, but not a legendary status with Manny Pacquiao, he had some big fights, win a championship but he ranks just at the level or ordinary champion, nothing so special with him, but I believe Inoue is something special.

That actually boggles up my mind to on where using the word bettor? They arent betting but rather boxing and this might be some typo or what?

Both are great boxers and when it comes to statistics then Donaire had already past his prime and now Inoue is really the rising star as of this moment as this man is still undefeated up to now.

This man will surely be even more popular and famous if he would continue that dominating streak for upcoming fights and lets see on how this fight will really result upon.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on July 21, 2021, 10:17:02 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on July 03, 2021, 07:10:27 AM

Since Donaire vs Casimero fight is already off, and we heard a lot of rumors that Donaire will be fighting Inou.

Donaire and inoue are both the greatest bettors right now in the boxing ring, i often see the way they bet, to be honest i myself often say for them donaire the legend and inoue the monster.

Do you mean boxers? because I have not heard that they are betting on their games and I think it's inappropriate too.
Well, Donaire is a legend, but not a legendary status with Manny Pacquiao, he had some big fights, win a championship but he ranks just at the level or ordinary champion, nothing so special with him, but I believe Inoue is something special.

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Quote from: Kittygalore on July 21, 2021, 08:54:26 AM

If Donaire can't match Inoue's speed and Inoue improves his timing and power on par with Donaire, I think that we will probably see another win for Inoue if the same fight as the last time happens again.

This is just my personal opinion after watching their first fight, if Donaire can't hit Inoue with those lethal left hooks successively then I think he is bound to lose again in the rematch. Inoue has his orbital bone broken by Donaire so I think he would be careful this time not to commit the same mistake again and adjust so Donaire will not be comfortable in the rematch.

Donaire's advantage here is experience but looking at how Inoue has evolved into a monster, I think this rematch still belongs to the Monster.

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