Topic: Internet is one limitation of bitcoin - page 3. (Read 933 times)
For me in this our generation there can only be a momentary shutdown of network. It cannot last for so long. So believe me there must be a way out.
I am facing a real world issue that prevents me from using Bitcoin.
If government shut down internet service even on fixed line connection then there will be complete internet blackout in the country and in that situation we cant use bitcoin.
I think this is also one of limitation of bitcoin that we need internet to use it.
If government shut down internet service even on fixed line connection then there will be complete internet blackout in the country and in that situation we cant use bitcoin.
I think this is also one of limitation of bitcoin that we need internet to use it.
I will be honest- if the government indeed shut down the internet, then my BTCs would be the least of my concerned. Imagine, all communications with other people across the globe would be hindered and prejudiced by such action.
Although this may be the case, this is indeed one of the things that I have mentioned in various threads mentioning about "BTC as a currency." Like what I mentioned before, this benefits only first-world countries given that they have easier internet access and connection at the same time. As compared to third-world countries who suffer from connection, this is a big hindrance and challenge at the same time.
Though there are also some hardware wallets that may transfer BTCs offline, I doubt that everyone has access to it also.
This is not a problem of Bitcoin but the government of your country that is in trouble, because we all know that whatever is used today all use the network and this has become a basic need so that network improvement continues to be developed, but your country is different this is certainly not a Bitcoin problem, then you have to move places so that network access can still be used to connect to internet media, especially Bitcoin which we currently have to follow.
I am facing a real world issue that prevents me from using Bitcoin.
I live in Pakistan and for last three days cellular internet service all across the country is suspended because of prevailing law and order situation. Internet is working on fixed line connection that is reaching homes. So there is still some connectivity available.
If government shut down internet service even on fixed line connection then there will be complete internet blackout in the country and in that situation we cant use bitcoin.
I think this is also one of limitation of bitcoin that we need internet to use it.
Bitcoin is not the only currency or the only medium that is completely dependent on the Internet. In this Technologically world almost everything is impossible to do without internet. And everything from government data repositories has become completely dependent on the Internet. So there is no way to shut down the internet and the government will never do it. So there is no reason to worry about it. yes it is true that without the internet Bitcoin would not exist. but in today's era, this universe cannot run without internetI live in Pakistan and for last three days cellular internet service all across the country is suspended because of prevailing law and order situation. Internet is working on fixed line connection that is reaching homes. So there is still some connectivity available.
If government shut down internet service even on fixed line connection then there will be complete internet blackout in the country and in that situation we cant use bitcoin.
I think this is also one of limitation of bitcoin that we need internet to use it.
I don't consider what the OP said as a threat to bitcoin because the internet is not only important for bitcoin but important for the whole world. Up to the present time, most of our professions, jobs as well as our daily living needs need the internet. Without the internet, our world would go back to the stone age, and it would take us thousands of years to rebuild from scratch without the internet. I don't believe that just because the government wants to destroy bitcoin, the government makes that stupid decision. I'm not really worried about that at all.
Not just BTC, the internet this days controls a whole lot, and lack of connectivity will do lot of havoc in terms of economic damages and this will result to a lot of loses.
The world has become a global village and the internet is very much needed to achieve this global inclusiveness.
The world has become a global village and the internet is very much needed to achieve this global inclusiveness.
yes' the internet is really needed by the world, because without the internet in my opinion it will cause havoc
especially when it comes to business
and economy.
and I also can't imagine if the internet in this world is dead
because in my opinion buying and selling btc transactions will also be difficult if the internet is off. and I hope that the internet will not die.
I am facing a real world issue that prevents me from using Bitcoin.
I live in Pakistan and for last three days cellular internet service all across the country is suspended because of prevailing law and order situation. Internet is working on fixed line connection that is reaching homes. So there is still some connectivity available.
If government shut down internet service even on fixed line connection then there will be complete internet blackout in the country and in that situation we cant use bitcoin.
I think this is also one of limitation of bitcoin that we need internet to use it.
Bitcoin is not the only currency or the only medium that is completely dependent on the Internet. In this Technologically world almost everything is impossible to do without internet. And everything from government data repositories has become completely dependent on the Internet. So there is no way to shut down the internet and the government will never do it. So there is no reason to worry about it. yes it is true that without the internet Bitcoin would not exist. but in today's era, this universe cannot run without internet I live in Pakistan and for last three days cellular internet service all across the country is suspended because of prevailing law and order situation. Internet is working on fixed line connection that is reaching homes. So there is still some connectivity available.
If government shut down internet service even on fixed line connection then there will be complete internet blackout in the country and in that situation we cant use bitcoin.
I think this is also one of limitation of bitcoin that we need internet to use it.
Gone are those days when we live in an era where we could live without access to an internet connection because even the banking sector needs this internet for daily transactions and likewise all other economically driven sectors need this internet for the growth of a country's well-being in the eyes of international communities. Because me hearing how the Pakistan government denied its citizens access to the use of internet connection, for me I see that as not only a fight against the use of Bitcoin, but a selfish act done to deny all those whose only source of income was through the internet connection (i.e bloggers, forex traders & social media influencers) whose only source of income was through an internet connection, and hence providing unfavorable environment for investors, as nobody will want to invest & stay in an area without internet connection.
Because just as air is very important for life, so has internet connection become very important to many of us humans now in this 21st century & year 2023.
Because just as air is very important for life, so has internet connection become very important to many of us humans now in this 21st century & year 2023.
Not just BTC, the internet this days controls a whole lot, and lack of connectivity will do lot of havoc in terms of economic damages and this will result to a lot of loses.
The world has become a global village and the internet is very much needed to achieve this global inclusiveness.
If our body needs water to live, the internet is like water to the world economy, to maintain the world economy, certain needs the internet. The internet is tied to everything in this world, not just bitcoin, so there's nothing to worry about when the government thinks it's possible to destroy bitcoin by shutting down the internet. If they did, it would be like burying themselves alive. The world has become a global village and the internet is very much needed to achieve this global inclusiveness.
I am facing a real world issue that prevents me from using Bitcoin.
I live in Pakistan and for last three days cellular internet service all across the country is suspended because of prevailing law and order situation. Internet is working on fixed line connection that is reaching homes. So there is still some connectivity available.
Sorry about your situation hope the government isnt being oppressive in trying to control the people, but other alternatives I remember seeing on one of the threads here involved not using the internet but sms and it was being used in South Africa . Besides the internet you can use sms, radio, or satellite .I live in Pakistan and for last three days cellular internet service all across the country is suspended because of prevailing law and order situation. Internet is working on fixed line connection that is reaching homes. So there is still some connectivity available.
Read about it here https://www.hedgewithcrypto.com/can-bitcoin-run-without-the-internet/
If government shut down internet service even on fixed line connection then there will be complete internet blackout in the country and in that situation we cant use bitcoin.
I think this is also one of limitation of bitcoin that we need internet to use it.
Technically as mentioned above, internet isn't the only way to use the internet....Btw most of us access internet using radio but satellite internet services such as Starlink can provide an alternative access to such services if available, otherwise sms, radio, or satellite are means we can keep using our bitcoin. I think this is also one of limitation of bitcoin that we need internet to use it.
This is not the problem of bitcoin, but the problem with your government that disabled internet in your country. You can use Starlink instead of relying on local service providers.
It is not as easy as you said for anyone to survive and still be able to use bitcoin in a country where the government disconnected her people from WWW.Elon Musk's Starlink finally registered in Pakistan to roll out internet services. ISLAMABAD – Elon Musk's famous satellite broadband provider Starlink has reportedly registered to operate and provide internet services in Pakistan.
Bitcoin on it's own is not simple to learn and it is more difficult when it is greeted with some situations like the one explained by Op.
There is no doubt, this kind of situation will be a large contributor to the poor adoption of bitcoin is such country. While people are forced to believe the fiat which is readily available to them.
Does anyone actually know why their government took such an drastic decision?
Not just BTC, the internet this days controls a whole lot, and lack of connectivity will do lot of havoc in terms of economic damages and this will result to a lot of loses.
The world has become a global village and the internet is very much needed to achieve this global inclusiveness.
The world has become a global village and the internet is very much needed to achieve this global inclusiveness.
I'm truly sorry that this issue occurred in your country. It's clear that the absence of internet would have a big impact on any country given that people nowadays rely heavily on the internet for multiple services.
I think there are some alternatives to accessing the internet and using Bitcoin in the case of a complete internet blackout. One of these alternatives is Starlink[1], which is an advanced broadband satellite internet service created by Elon Musk.
However, when looking at the map[2] provided it appears that Starlink's service does not currently cover all countries in the world. I did notice that Pakistan is listed as "Coming soon" and is "Pending regulatory approval" This suggests that there is a possibility that Starlink's coverage will expand to include almost all countries in the world in the near future. If that happens it could enable anyone to access the internet via satellite in just a couple of years.
[1]: https://www.starlink.com/
[2]: https://www.starlink.com/map
I think there are some alternatives to accessing the internet and using Bitcoin in the case of a complete internet blackout. One of these alternatives is Starlink[1], which is an advanced broadband satellite internet service created by Elon Musk.
However, when looking at the map[2] provided it appears that Starlink's service does not currently cover all countries in the world. I did notice that Pakistan is listed as "Coming soon" and is "Pending regulatory approval" This suggests that there is a possibility that Starlink's coverage will expand to include almost all countries in the world in the near future. If that happens it could enable anyone to access the internet via satellite in just a couple of years.
[1]: https://www.starlink.com/
[2]: https://www.starlink.com/map
I am facing a real world issue that prevents me from using Bitcoin.
I live in Pakistan and for last three days cellular internet service all across the country is suspended because of prevailing law and order situation. Internet is working on fixed line connection that is reaching homes. So there is still some connectivity available.
If government shut down internet service even on fixed line connection then there will be complete internet blackout in the country and in that situation we cant use bitcoin.
I think this is also one of limitation of bitcoin that we need internet to use it.
Get a StarLink and your problem is solved, you don't have to rely on your country's internet service providers, or if you know other satellite 🛰️ network provider you can just buy their dish and subscribe to the network, it won't take much of your time, the only problem is the cost, they are always more costly than normal internet subs that we do on PC and Mobile.I live in Pakistan and for last three days cellular internet service all across the country is suspended because of prevailing law and order situation. Internet is working on fixed line connection that is reaching homes. So there is still some connectivity available.
If government shut down internet service even on fixed line connection then there will be complete internet blackout in the country and in that situation we cant use bitcoin.
I think this is also one of limitation of bitcoin that we need internet to use it.
Before you believe that this is a flaw for Bitcoin I think you should understand that Bitcoin was created with using the internet in mind, everything blockchain requires the internet so it was directly created for the use on the internet.
Isn't something that your freedom to use internet? For sure the government announced something regarding to the down of internet services, but if it was permanent and not temporary then I definitely not let it slide since there's a lot of people in a country that are relying on the internet like home-based jobs, communication via internet and also the crypto industry. I couldn't even imagine a world that there's no internet since my money sources are from online. If that's the case you could try the recommendation above mentioned about satellite but it's my first time hearing about it.
I hope that the problem with the Internet is temporary. Read the news: in Pakistan, the government shut down the internet indefinitely due to popular unrest. https://technoblender.com/pakistan-internet-restrictions-could-be-indefinite/
Innocent people are forced to accept government decisions. I don't think the lack of internet will last long.
The absence or partial provision of the Internet is a big problem in today's age. Trying to solve this problem yourself is both costly and difficult. Today, it should not be acceptable for managers to make decisions in this way without a valid reason. There is no gain that can be achieved with prohibitions. How logical would it be to cut off the internet while living in the internet age? I hope such situations never happen anywhere else in the world.
I had heard of the methods mentioned in the comments, but I could not experience it. In such cases, methods that can do business like Starlink should become widespread all over the world and should be accessible without forcing people financially. I'd like something like this to happen, but nowadays there's not much we can use cheaply.
There may be some truth in what @ OP said because if the government turns off internet services in one country, they can't use Bitcoin.
But with the current conditions, the government will not turn off internet services.
Maybe they will only limit internet services and allow citizens to access sites deemed not to endanger the government.
But we know that nowadays, people can still use a VPN to bypass government restrictions to read or know more information.
And maybe that's a Bitcoin limitation that can prevent users from accessing Bitcoin.
But with the current conditions, the government will not turn off internet services.
Maybe they will only limit internet services and allow citizens to access sites deemed not to endanger the government.
But we know that nowadays, people can still use a VPN to bypass government restrictions to read or know more information.
And maybe that's a Bitcoin limitation that can prevent users from accessing Bitcoin.
While it is true that Bitcoin requires internet connectivity to function, I think this is a limitation that can disrupt internet services in certain situations such as natural disasters or government-imposed restrictions for one reason or another. But, here's the truth. This is where the government really comes in, if they fully support this adoption, not only that, but satellite-based internet is trying to help make Bitcoin more accessible in areas with limited connectivity, because there are huge benefits that Bitcoin offers, which are still significant.
This problem is not really widespread and happens depending on the area people live in or the barriers from the government controlling information on the internet. Personally, I have never seen this as a limitation, perhaps I need to reconsider my ability to access that environment instead of blaming the quality of the tool.
Not only the internet but also many other things in our lives, people judge and judge only from a personal perspective without really seeing their own mistakes, some prejudices are formed since you were born. I came from my parents and grandparents who you know, and I know a national proverb that says 'a frog lives in a well, it only sees the world as small as the mouth of the well'.
Not only the internet but also many other things in our lives, people judge and judge only from a personal perspective without really seeing their own mistakes, some prejudices are formed since you were born. I came from my parents and grandparents who you know, and I know a national proverb that says 'a frog lives in a well, it only sees the world as small as the mouth of the well'.
Time to start stocking up on ham radios and learning Morse code, just in case.
Haha, you got that right! Speaking of which, brushing up on those smoke signals sounds like a great idea too. Gotta be prepared for any situation, right? You never know when a solar flare or some other EMP event might decide to wipe out our electronics.
As of today, bitcoin transaction can not go through without internet. Not only the internet and without power you can't use internet when there is no power and provision for it with your device and that of the ISP you are using, no transaction can go through. This as it looks like a challenge is not a challenge, bitcoin is internet based network and no transaction can be honored without it, we should respect that.
This is how most systems work these days, banks are not left out of this. Once there internet is down, almost everything is down with it.
This is how most systems work these days, banks are not left out of this. Once there internet is down, almost everything is down with it.
I am not tech-savvy but I think this is the best time to start researching and seeking other means of connecting to the bitcoin without the internet or bypassing government connections. The Internet is too important to be placed in the hands of self-seeking politicians because they will always seek centralization. And if they observe that they cannot stop Bitcoin, they might result to cutting off the internet.
Time to start stocking up on ham radios and learning Morse code, just in case. Jump to: