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Topic: Introducing CherryPicking - new Windows & Linux Pool Hopper - page 30. (Read 43136 times)

legendary
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They should all have the correct payment type in the cfgs, if not I've made a mistake.

You should choose as many Prop pools as possible and have a few backups as well. Please ignore any .cfg with the pool type 'SMPPS' or 'PPS' for the time being, those are for the next version that I'm currently testing, but since I've already written the .cfgs I've uploaded those too. Actually, you can use PPS pools, just switch them to BACKUP (change Type=PPS to Type=BACKUP) and they'll work in 0.6.3

Cool, to make it easier can you put a link to the archive on the 2nd Post?

Also, does one use the config files in the archive over the ones that come w/ the download? The actual cfg file forum...
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
They should all have the correct payment type in the cfgs, if not I've made a mistake.

You should choose as many Prop pools as possible and have a few backups as well. Please ignore any .cfg with the pool type 'SMPPS' or 'PPS' for the time being, those are for the next version that I'm currently testing, but since I've already written the .cfgs I've uploaded those too. Actually, you can use PPS pools, just switch them to BACKUP (change Type=PPS to Type=BACKUP) and they'll work in 0.6.3
legendary
Activity: 2450
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got ya, thanks guys! so all the pools listed in the archive have the right type of payment system to work w/ this hopper? In which case if true... I just go make accounts on any of the ones listed in config files...and off I go??
member
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Updated the cfg archive with a few more pools: bitp, Bloodys, BtcMonkey, BTCPool24, BTCWorld, DigBtc, NinjaCoin
Also updated the SSL fix archive to go along with the new pools.

Wait, so Im confused when takling about CP and it mentions it supports "scoring" pools... does that refer to PPS type payouts ? ...
No, that means pools with a score-type payment system, like Slush's pool, Eclipse, etc. It does support them but if you get any extra income from them or not is still a gamble.
full member
Activity: 168
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Wait, so Im confused when takling about CP and it mentions it supports "scoring" pools... does that refer to PPS type payouts ? ...

PPS = Pay Per Share
SCORE = Slush, Eclipse, etc. that use Meni R.'s scoring algorithm or similar.
legendary
Activity: 2450
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Wait, so Im confused when takling about CP and it mentions it supports "scoring" pools... does that refer to PPS type payouts ? ...
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
So hawk, if you had to choose right now which is better, cherrypicker or bithopper?  What are the big differences if any?

Trying to figure out if I want to spend the time tonight setting up cherrypicker.

I'm pleased with CP. I really like BH and had been die-hard on BH-RYO since it released.

Here's some pros/cons.

CP
Pros:
BitClockers works
Some algo work on PPLNS/SCORE so more possible pools (though I know these are gambles)
Easy to setup - install JRE, the jssecacerts, add your miner accounts and go.
A responsive dev who is putting in a lot of work

Cons:
No web interface to monitor what's happening (so no monitoring when away from rigs)
No realtime monitoring of any sort (other than watching lines scroll by on the console)
Currently only uses poclbm
Closed Source

BH
Pros:
Web interface to control pool enable/disable and monitor shares, speed, submitted, stales, etc.
Dynamic Penalty (ryo)
Slicing (if it gets stable)
Open source, easy to fork
Responsive group of devs

Cons:
Web Interface of main has become a camel
Frequent updates that can break things - burning mining time
BitClockers hates bithopper for its getwork behavior - that signature will allow other pools to follow BitClockers
Easy to fork - and then features you like don't make it back into the main and you end up with giving up one set of features or the other
Can be difficult to setup due to dependencies.


Bottom line: I'm good with CP right now. The rate of return is comparable to slightly better than BH (primarily because BitClockers has been on a bit of a roll). I see it as the next evolutionary step for hopping software. Proxy -> Client control -> Client integrated.
I would love to see both CP and BH join together and work with the poclbm-autohop guy and bring in some of the work of the Long Polling and Hopping thread guy to create a miner that is self-contained, unblockable, with a web control interface and slicing, drawing stats from unfakeable sources, hopping every pool type.

Until then, a lot of it comes down to your personal preference. Dropping .10 for CP won't be wasted, but sticking with BH has some good benefits too.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
I was going to suggest bitcoinpool but after reading their TOS I found then too much of and anal retentive control freeks.  Wink  They will freeze your account if there is no activity in a 28 day period, they will freeze your account if you are not "efficient", they will freeze your account if they feel like it  Wink

Donating to the pool ameliorates this problem:
http://www.bitcoinpool.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=103&p=2449&hilit=donate#p2449
Thanks hawks5999.  Good to know.  I always donate to pools that I hop.  It's only fair.
legendary
Activity: 2450
Merit: 1002
Im interested in testin out cherry picker to see if I can get more out of my measly 366mh/s rate =P...wish it didnt cost a .1BTC to just test grrr....dont have the BTC right now!
member
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So hawk, if you had to choose right now which is better, cherrypicker or bithopper?  What are the big differences if any?

Trying to figure out if I want to spend the time tonight setting up cherrypicker.
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
I was going to suggest bitcoinpool but after reading their TOS I found then too much of and anal retentive control freeks.  Wink  They will freeze your account if there is no activity in a 28 day period, they will freeze your account if you are not "efficient", they will freeze your account if they feel like it  Wink

Donating to the pool ameliorates this problem:
http://www.bitcoinpool.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=103&p=2449&hilit=donate#p2449
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
I do plan to add support for any command-line miner via config files, but right now it isn't high on the priority list. For now it works with poclbm.

would love to have phoenix since phatk keeps getting improved efficiencies about every two weeks it seems.
full member
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Great I got it properly set up and am now hopping 10 pools. Thanks for the bit about the CPU overflow because that could have been bad!

I credit not having JRE errors on previously running a counter strike server with statistics ^_^
sr. member
Activity: 252
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Added 3 more pools to the .cfg archive (bitcoinpool, btcserv - very very slow, poolmunity).
I was going to suggest bitcoinpool but after reading their TOS I found then too much of and anal retentive control freeks.  Wink  They will freeze your account if there is no activity in a 28 day period, they will freeze your account if you are not "efficient", they will freeze your account if they feel like it  Wink

Do NOT mine at poolmunity,  check out their Block History page, 400 valid shares, 35294 stales  Shocked  I've done namecoin mining there, use to get ~10% stales.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
just in time to catch bitcoinpool's new round. Thanks!
Lucky timing on my part Grin

Hey I was wondering in the poclbm.cfg , since I am running 4 GFX Cards what do i put for the "device" line? I have successfully got it running, but only on one of my cards. I am assuming I would just edit the line from


Path=C:\stuff\guiminer\poclbm.exe
Args=-v -w 128 mem clock 360
Device=0


to "Device=0,1,2,3"

(my other cards are 1 2 and 3)

if thats wrong could you correct me, thanks!
hawks5999 is right, you only need to change that if poclbm recognizes your CPU as device 0.
To add miners, add a Miner=account_name account_password line for each pool to specify the account for that miner to use. If the pool allows multiple miners on the same account the lines can be identical. Since you have 4 GPUs, you need 4 Miner= lines in each pool config files.
I say again, you need all 4 even if they are the same.
does this run w/ CGminer?

poclbm only as of today. Don't know if this will change in the future.
I do plan to add support for any command-line miner via config files, but right now it isn't high on the priority list. For now it works with poclbm.
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
does this run w/ CGminer?

poclbm only as of today. Don't know if this will change in the future.
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
Hey I was wondering in the poclbm.cfg , since I am running 4 GFX Cards what do i put for the "device" line? I have successfully got it running, but only on one of my cards. I am assuming I would just edit the line from


Path=C:\stuff\guiminer\poclbm.exe
Args=-v -w 128 mem clock 360
Device=0


to "Device=0,1,2,3"

(my other cards are 1 2 and 3)

if thats wrong could you correct me, thanks!

you need to have a Miner= line for each GPU. So you would need 4 lines with Miner= to engage all your cards.

The device line tells CP which device to start with. So if your system recognizes CPU as OpenCL device 0 you would put Device=1
If your system recognizes CPU as the highest number device you don't need anything on Device=
If you add an extra line beyond your cards it will spill over into CPU mining.
legendary
Activity: 2450
Merit: 1002
does this run w/ CGminer?

oh it runs poclbm.exe directly...ah so no other "miner" just the kernel directly?
full member
Activity: 672
Merit: 100
Hey I was wondering in the poclbm.cfg , since I am running 4 GFX Cards what do i put for the "device" line? I have successfully got it running, but only on one of my cards. I am assuming I would just edit the line from


Path=C:\stuff\guiminer\poclbm.exe
Args=-v -w 128 mem clock 360
Device=0


to "Device=0,1,2,3"

(my other cards are 1 2 and 3)

if thats wrong could you correct me, thanks!
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
just in time to catch bitcoinpool's new round. Thanks!
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