Introducing CherryPicking - new Windows & Linux Pool Hopper - page 28.

muyoso

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Quote from: gnaget on August 05, 2011, 09:19:59 PM

Does it have to be one account per GPU? I haven't looked too much into this yet, but I have 28 GPUs, and I don't want to create a worker for each on each pool. Any way to make it per system?

I have two GPU's in two different systems both using the same workers on every pool without a problem. IDK if this will scale to 28 GPU's. I might consider at least for bitclockers using different workers, because you might run into trouble with that many gpu's requesting getworks.

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Does it have to be one account per GPU? I haven't looked too much into this yet, but I have 28 GPUs, and I don't want to create a worker for each on each pool. Any way to make it per system?

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Quote from: hawks5999 on August 05, 2011, 06:10:08 PM

Bloodred, here's where a slicing function could come in handy

I'll probably only end up with a few shares on BitClockers once it is higher than Bithasher.

Would be good to submit to both.

Yea, I disabled bithasher until bitclockers finishes. Probably should have let the hopper stay on bithashers, but I guess I was too excited to see bitclockers working to see some newly added pool take away its shares. Cheesy

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About score (and PPLNS) pools
Think I'll do what myself suggested and add a new hopping profile for short rounds. PPLNS has indeed proven to be unprofitable with various algorithm tweaks and a few random data sets. Right now I strongly suggest either removing PPLNS pools or switching them from PPLNS to backup (you'd have higher variance, but it should average out to 1.0, though personally I'd still rather have PPS).
I haven't simulated the Score pool algorithm but I strongly believe it'll produce similar results, so until I change the profile I suggest disabling score pools because on average you'd hurt your efficiency, although you would have a chance of getting much more than PPS.

Quote from: hawks5999 on August 05, 2011, 06:10:08 PM

Bloodred, here's where a slicing function could come in handy

I'll probably only end up with a few shares on BitClockers once it is higher than Bithasher.

Would be good to submit to both.

Something like mining 10 minutes (or some period) on each pool that's close to the minimum? Yeah, I could implement that as long as the interval isn't very very short. If you mean literally a few seconds a slice it probably wouldn't work too well because CP would have to stop/restart each poclbm process once every few seconds, if it's done that often it may introduce unwanted overhead.

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Bloodred, here's where a slicing function could come in handy

I'll probably only end up with a few shares on BitClockers once it is higher than Bithasher.

Would be good to submit to both.

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get the latest cfg.zip from the first page, second post.

also, use this:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/oilipfekkmncanaajkapbpancpelijih

I used to have the many tabs open and I just set Auto Refresh Plus to refresh them every 5-15 minutes depending on how active the pool generally was.

Save you some ctrl+ whatevers.

Also, you can just "Bookmark all open tabs" to get started with a list like I have. Then use the bookmark manager to quickly and easily (f2, ctrl-c, alt-tab, f2, ctrl-v) rename the bookmarks to match your cfg files. Then order from there (wish chrome did sort by name).

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Quote from: hawks5999 on August 05, 2011, 05:29:23 PM

Quote from: muyoso on August 05, 2011, 05:11:09 PM

Damn you, just made me add ANOTHER pool. Ive had like 15 tabs open just for pools for like a month now.

I used to do that. I stopped and now just have this quick shortcut list:
http://i.imgur.com/WlBjL.png

Thats awesome, but I'm too lazy for that. Ill stick with the 15 tabs in Chrome. I do like that I can Ctrl+Shift+R and reload all the tabs at once.

Also, bitclockers working flawlessly, LOVE IT.

~~Edit: Just saw you have bitp.it on there. Have the config for CP for that? I tried to make it myself but got stuck trying to figure out the hashrate.~~

Edit: NVM, saw the new configs.

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Quote from: muyoso on August 05, 2011, 05:11:09 PM

Quote from: hawks5999 on August 05, 2011, 05:04:32 PM

I have to say I've been a little nervous about all the additional small pools (even though I requested them Roll Eyes

). It seemed like too much time was going to bithasher.

But I'll be danged. We just solved a block on bithasher while picking (534951 total shares) and now I have 1.73 BTC waiting for confirm. That should keep my daily moving average happy Grin

Damn you, just made me add ANOTHER pool. Ive had like 15 tabs open just for pools for like a month now.

I used to do that. I stopped and now just have this quick shortcut list:

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Quote from: hawks5999 on August 05, 2011, 05:04:32 PM

I have to say I've been a little nervous about all the additional small pools (even though I requested them Roll Eyes

). It seemed like too much time was going to bithasher.

But I'll be danged. We just solved a block on bithasher while picking (534951 total shares) and now I have 1.73 BTC waiting for confirm. That should keep my daily moving average happy Grin

Damn you, just made me add ANOTHER pool. Ive had like 15 tabs open just for pools for like a month now.

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Quote from: ampirebus on August 05, 2011, 02:38:46 PM

it completely avoided all the best rounds

there is no way to know what rounds will be the best because CP cant predict the future so mining in short rounds is always a tricky thing
a task was open for this and maybe a child score profile for short rounds can fix your needs

Thats why you mine all rounds for no more than 10%.

Take these rounds for example:

Each round had ~55 shares submitted.

7140 - 201.79% efficiency
7139 - 1201.46% efficiency
7138 - 422.01% efficiency

So on the longer rounds when you get nothing, these go a long way to keeping overall efficiency high.

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I have to say I've been a little nervous about all the additional small pools (even though I requested them Roll Eyes

). It seemed like too much time was going to bithasher.

But I'll be danged. We just solved a block on bithasher while picking (534951 total shares) and now I have 1.73 BTC waiting for confirm. That should keep my daily moving average happy Grin

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Quote from: hawks5999 on August 05, 2011, 03:26:20 PM

what's your estimated payout at mtred? what's your balance at eligius?

slush is score based and only experimentally hoppable, btw. You shouldn't expect big payouts from slush.

well compared to not hopping my payouts are pretty much 0. my balance at eligus/mtred combined is .18

im not expecting big payouts from slush, just payouts. every single round on slush if i were not hopping i would get .01~.02. going from .02 to .00002

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Quote from: ampirebus on August 05, 2011, 02:38:46 PM

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not so happy with this. i would have thought the hopper would have seen those short rounds and gone in... it completely avoided all the best rounds! and the ones that it did join are no payout at all . Spent time between eligius and mtred between then, which also ended up having very long rounds. Huh

below is a comparison of what i get on slush w/o cherrypicker on...

7140 2011-08-04 19:40:26 0:12:41 355009 0.01410793 139620 confirmed
7139 2011-08-04 19:27:46 0:06:22 178960 0.01227752 139618 confirmed

Yea, the way cherrypicker does slush is completely backwards. It should be doing it exactly like bithopper does, which is jumping in at the start of every round for 10% of difficulty shares and then hopping out. I can confirm that this method absolutely works and gives you 100-150% efficiency over time.

Cherrypicker:

vs

Bithopper:

I've just disabled slush for now. Been a boring day for hopping so far. Been on Arsbitcoin pretty much all day.

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what's your estimated payout at mtred? what's your balance at eligius?

slush is score based and only experimentally hoppable, btw. You shouldn't expect big payouts from slush.

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not so happy with this. i would have thought the hopper would have seen those short rounds and gone in... it completely avoided all the best rounds! and the ones that it did join are no payout at all . Spent time between eligius and mtred between then, which also ended up having very long rounds. Huh

below is a comparison of what i get on slush w/o cherrypicker on...

7140 2011-08-04 19:40:26 0:12:41 355009 0.01410793 139620 confirmed
7139 2011-08-04 19:27:46 0:06:22 178960 0.01227752 139618 confirmed

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Quote from: ampirebus on August 05, 2011, 01:11:06 PM

sorry if this is a n00b question but why isnt deepbit hopped

They delay their stats for an hour. Basically its impossible right now to know when they found a block and hop to them.

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sorry if this is a n00b question but why isnt deepbit hopped

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Quote from: Bloodred on August 05, 2011, 11:22:02 AM

Quote from: muyoso on August 05, 2011, 10:30:55 AM

cherrypicker refuses to go to a backup for me. It just jumps to the lowest prop pool even if its over the 43% threshold. What am i doing wrong?

Are the backup pools set properly? Can you please copy-paste the info it displays when updating the pools? I'll be able to tell what's happening from that. You need a working pool set as BACKUP or it will do just what you've described.

I have ars set to backup in the latest stable release.

Edit: OK, found the problem. In the config files you have the port set to 8334. The port that works for me is 8344. I think the reason that it wasn't switching to Ars for me last night is that Ars is set to 1.00264 and BTCPool24 was below that, although I will have to keep an eye on this to confirm it. Seems to be working perfectly now that I changed the port. Going to setup another backup JIC.

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Quote from: muyoso on August 05, 2011, 10:30:55 AM

cherrypicker refuses to go to a backup for me. It just jumps to the lowest prop pool even if its over the 43% threshold. What am i doing wrong?

Are the backup pools set properly? Can you please copy-paste the info it displays when updating the pools? I'll be able to tell what's happening from that. You need a working pool set as BACKUP or it will do just what you've described.

Quote from: Psychonautchn on August 05, 2011, 11:02:02 AM

Could you make up a config. for ABCPool.co (2% pps)? Also, I'm still having problems with the security certificate for ARS, Mt.Red, and RFCPool, using both your updated files and manually updating jssecacerts. Otherwise CP works great, if I can keep 24hrs of up time without my internet cutting out I will give a definitive earnings comparison.

I've added ABCPool to the archive. As for the certs, I'm trying to find out what may be causing all these issues but it's difficult to diagnose since I can't reproduce the errors. Since you're getting errors with so many pools, are you sure you've copied the file in the correct location?
Somebody also messaged me and told me he was getting these errors because something was wrong with his JRE install and he had fixed it, but didn't mention what or how. Maybe reinstall the JRE?

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Could you make up a config. for ABCPool.co (2% pps)? Also, I'm still having problems with the security certificate for ARS, Mt.Red, and RFCPool, using both your updated files and manually updating jssecacerts. Otherwise CP works great, if I can keep 24hrs of up time without my internet cutting out I will give a definitive earnings comparison.

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