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For what I can see around me, a great deal of people want to achieve the success you can see in movies and TV, but they want to make no effort at all to fulfill their goals.

In a way they just hope that somehow everything aligns for them to become rich with no effort on their part, and this is not possible, that being said there are many people which are willing to work hard to reach their dreams, but they have no idea how to do this, and it is those people the ones that can be helped by offering some guidance and then let them figure out the rest on their own.

That is nonsense, with everyone of course must want success in his life and if they want success of course there must be effort and even sacrifice to be successful, but if they want to be rich but no effort it will never happen. It is the same with my friend where he always says he wants a change for the better in the future but he himself has no movement that shows progress or effort, I don't know what is in his mind why he wants success but no effort is made.

Those who want to be rich without any effort I think they need to be told that it will not happen magically. Although everyone has a portion of luck, it is not entirely going to give a big positive thing. Of course, whatever you want there must be effort first.
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Rightly said and as the saying goes teach me how to fish and not give me fish if one is to attain the level of financial stability there is a great need to empower those looking up to you so the financial burden can be reduced on your part. You need to support those always depending on you so that they too can support others in the chain
this exactly what giving back to the community that make us grow means, contributing back for the sake of making the living of those around us better.
but the question is, how difficult it will be to be realized, giving fish is easier than teaching how to fish arguably, even more apparent when we are talking about improving the living of people around us
through elevating the income, even so its not only limited to income that we need to teach people about improving their life there are many thing that could contribute to the betterment of the lives of people.
though sometime people are so selfish that they can only think for themselves, I don't blame them though, sometime the environment that we're growing in really affect our mindset growing up.
but giving back to community, teaching how to fish instead of giving the fish so that we won't get burdened by helping as well as making people create their own opportunity is essential for us to grow as stated by many.
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Rightly said and as the saying goes teach me how to fish and not give me fish if one is to attain the level of financial stability there is a great need to empower those looking up to you so the financial burden can be reduced on your part. You need to support those always depending on you so that they too can support others in the chain
Many of those that are unable now needs some helping hand. If you as a person believes about that there's no man is an island then you'd also believe that every person that are on their down times need some extra help that will pull them up so that they can stand on their own. I know that this isn't applicable at all times because there are cases that those that have been helped are not grateful and even wasted the opportunity of help that should be a life changing action for them. But it's true, when you teach someone how to fish and be skilled for employment or livelihood, if they will hone that then it is gonna be a lifechanging opportunity for them.
For what I can see around me, a great deal of people want to achieve the success you can see in movies and TV, but they want to make no effort at all to fulfill their goals.

In a way they just hope that somehow everything aligns for them to become rich with no effort on their part, and this is not possible, that being said there are many people which are willing to work hard to reach their dreams, but they have no idea how to do this, and it is those people the ones that can be helped by offering some guidance and then let them figure out the rest on their own.
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Rightly said and as the saying goes teach me how to fish and not give me fish if one is to attain the level of financial stability there is a great need to empower those looking up to you so the financial burden can be reduced on your part. You need to support those always depending on you so that they too can support others in the chain
Many of those that are unable now needs some helping hand. If you as a person believes about that there's no man is an island then you'd also believe that every person that are on their down times need some extra help that will pull them up so that they can stand on their own. I know that this isn't applicable at all times because there are cases that those that have been helped are not grateful and even wasted the opportunity of help that should be a life changing action for them. But it's true, when you teach someone how to fish and be skilled for employment or livelihood, if they will hone that then it is gonna be a lifechanging opportunity for them.
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I use to say this more often to people around me, that if you want to help a person in life, then learn to know and identify the strategic place of need in such persons life and fixed it, if you give them bread, they will soon eat it up and be hungry again, but when you make decision in alleviating them and helping them to start an investment that could be profitable for them to depend on for financial survival, they will always earn through such instead of coming back to you for more help.
Know the person’s weakness and help him encourage to overcome it. Teach him to stand on his own foot and not to rely on other person, and by helping him land on a stable job or a reliable side hustle or investment, you are just giving him opportunity to grow and support himself, without feeding him everything he needs. That way, you did invest yourself onto him but in a productive way.

It's as simple as that. You revealed what'd be best and productive to him as you exposed him out to the field where he can actually be nortured and certified to self reliance of making incomes of his own instead of coming to you on basis asking for your assistance.
Even, those little demanding assistance from him can cause distractions to your pursues but if you can get him settled and focused to himself to a source of providing for himself, of course that'd enable you too to focus more undistractedly towards your goals.
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Rightly said and as the saying goes teach me how to fish and not give me fish if one is to attain the level of financial stability there is a great need to empower those looking up to you so the financial burden can be reduced on your part. You need to support those always depending on you so that they too can support others in the chain
The saying you said has also taught many people that everyone needs to be given the opportunity to work so they can experience how to make money in their own life. Because if a person who depends on other people is immediately given money without being told how to make money, of course one day he will also complain again and depend on other people so that he will never find change in his life except just continuing to depend on other people. So, the important point here is to give them something they can do so that they can expect good results, like the fishing rod you mentioned in the proverb.
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All what you’ve explained in your post is correct and that’s just the reality of it that we should all be aware of. Building your circle and not just your dependents can lead to reduced dependency on you. It is only when your circle is rich that you can also feel rich to enjoy the luxury of riches with your friends. This is only peculiar to those that care and would love to share but for those that don’t, they won’t care and would the life they desire. Financial stability and freedom of finance is achieved when no one depends on you and have built your circle to be like you also.
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Rightly said and as the saying goes teach me how to fish and not give me fish if one is to attain the level of financial stability there is a great need to empower those looking up to you so the financial burden can be reduced on your part. You need to support those always depending on you so that they too can support others in the chain
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Life is all about empowerment,  raising people up by empowering them. A man is considered to be a great man if the people around him are transformed by him.


Society only grows great while old men plant trees under whose shade they will never sit.  I forget who said that exactly but I never forget the words because they are absolutely correct.   That's an ironic thing about a rich society, it only really continues to be so while investing in those who are born with nothing.   That goes beyond families it has to be reflected in government, the monetary system everything really.
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If we have been able to build our own finances very well and other people or people around us pay attention to it, then we ourselves can encourage other people to do the same. or we can motivate other people around us quite easily. Because people always tend to pay attention to and follow people who they consider to have achieved success. So the first thing I always emphasize to myself is that I must be successful first and then I will lead other people to follow me and achieve success together. because when we try to advise other people when we are not successful, believe me, many people will start to stay away from us or they will even start to say that we are just a dreamer. But if we advise other people when we are successful, they will immediately believe our words and follow our advice happily. That's a fact that I found and it is certainly something that most people experience too.
Better if it works like that but you forgot there are people who throw stones at a bearing tree, so that its fruits will fall to them. Let's also hope that those who follow what they think are successful won't get scammed because there are scammers who are like this. They like to mislead people for their own gains. I still think that you don't need to be successful first in order for you to convince the people.

Sometimes what you only need is a good social skills and on how to sales talk properly. Since we are not yet successful, we don't have proofs yet but we can always use the proof of other people. It must be fine because our intention is still clean.
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I think more of African people would understand this better where economy system can be so hard and the people struggles to make living and add values to their lives while those opportuned to breakthrough those hard times are being overweighted to grow higher due to the responsibility surrounding them.
African culture places some responsibility on wealthy family members to take care of those who are less privileged. The society frowns at individualism because the culture promotes communal living. Depending on the age of the dependants you can assist dependants in some ways. Paying for their school fees, supporting them in business, and recommending relevant skills and Investment platforms, are some areas one could help them become financially independent. 

Know the person’s weakness and help him encourage to overcome it. Teach him to stand on his own foot and not to rely on other person, and by helping him land on a stable job or a reliable side hustle or investment, you are just giving him opportunity to grow and support himself, without feeding him everything he needs. That way, you did invest yourself onto him but in a productive way.
The problem with some dependants is that they don't want to become independent. They always want to receive assistance from people but they don't put any effort into making money and meeting their needs. A family friend has been given assistance several times for him to take responsibility but he ended up misusing all the funds that was given to him severally to start a business.
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Buttressing the whole fact, to help people of your responsibilities in staying financially reliable when you've the capacities would as much reduce the level of your expenses with the people in concerned and would enable you to flexibly focus on your personal issues hopefully in your projects of gaining more wealth and enlarging your incomes.

I think more of African people would understand this better where economy system can be so hard and the people struggles to make living and add values to their lives while those opportuned to breakthrough those hard times are being overweighted to grow higher due to responsibility surrounding them.

I have this guy who works with my elder brother in their office, they do these same work and in the same department with the same salary but unfortunately, this guy don't have any money left on him before the month do reach even half, and before he will collect the next salary, he would have had debt everywhere under his pillow waiting to be paid and when they got into discussion, he said he has a lot of responsibilities coming from home and are all from his siblings. That's obviously, the family is dependent on him despite having a good job that pays well.

Even if you are earning millions of dollars and the people around you don't have a means to earn will only fustrate your financial stability and you wouldn't be able to grow personally. This is why the adage that says teach how to fish but don't give a fish is one of the best way to remove someone from financial situations around you.
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Life is all about empowerment,  raising people up by empowering them. A man is considered to be a great man if the people around him are transformed by him. It can only be greed if one has the power to empower the people around but choose not to do. When you decide not to help people that are around whenever they have any problem they would always run down to you for help. But when you help people by carrying them along by empowering them whenever they have challenge of theirs they will be able to help solve problems themselves.

I think when you help in building people they are just like pillars to you, when you need support they can also be of help to you. This is very important to do for family members and friend because the effectiveness will still exist till the next generation.
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Doing financially well as a breadwinner in your family is not sufficient enough to encourage your financial growth or stability when you don't optimize to make provisions on how your dependants can also stay financially independent to themselves because over billing can actually weigh your aiming down.

If you're too proud of yourself, delightful and relaxed without being bothered on how to ease your responsibilities within your home when  you've the capacities to lucrate everyones minds by introducing them or encouraging them on how they can also breakthrough their financial reliances, you'd either end up struggling to have more values to your finances or your relentness engagement on always being the provider could picture you as one of a kind who have the potential to elevate others but chooses to let everyone settled beneath your foots which can actually inspire some negative thoughts on people envying your success.

Buttressing the whole fact, to help people of your responsibilities in staying financially reliable when you've the capacities would as much reduce the level of your expenses with the people in concerned and would enable you to flexibly focus on your personal issues hopefully in your projects of gaining more wealth and enlarging your incomes.

I think more of African people would understand this better where economy system can be so hard and the people struggles to make living and add values to their lives while those opportuned to breakthrough those hard times are being overweighted to grow higher due to responsibility surrounding them.
what  things will satisfy this world I don't understand. I mean I don't disagree with even a single word of yours but this world expect too much especially from a men. Our lives pass in thinking for other and that's the most stressful thing for me. We should provide them with basic necessities of life but later on they should do things on their own.

It's my personal opinion and you could differ in that but I think ones life is too short for all these type of affairs and he/she should only be responsible for the basic necessities until the maturity age only. After that siblings must do things on their own to survive and try their own luck.
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Know the person’s weakness and help him encourage to overcome it. Teach him to stand on his own foot and not to rely on other person, and by helping him land on a stable job or a reliable side hustle or investment, you are just giving him opportunity to grow and support himself, without feeding him everything he needs. That way, you did invest yourself onto him but in a productive way.

That's a reasonable solution, I once saw a video that gave me motivation, where there was a beggar who was sitting hoping that everyone who passed by would give him money, but there were two people who gave him a box of drinks and listed the price of one bottle of drink to sell. I think this is indeed a motivation, where we have to be able to try to make money or to change the situation for the better, not just by sitting and hoping for a miracle to happen, if it continues like that it will be difficult for us to change the situation.

by giving them jobs that can actually make money is the solution to being able to change their own lives. rather than making their lives depend on other people, it will not make them progress or change for the better. because I think people whose lives depend on other people are people who don't want to try to change their lives for the better, because they feel that their lives are comfortable with the people who give them comfort in life.
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I use to say this more often to people around me, that if you want to help a person in life, then learn to know and identify the strategic place of need in such persons life and fixed it, if you give them bread, they will soon eat it up and be hungry again, but when you make decision in alleviating them and helping them to start an investment that could be profitable for them to depend on for financial survival, they will always earn through such instead of coming back to you for more help.
Know the person’s weakness and help him encourage to overcome it. Teach him to stand on his own foot and not to rely on other person, and by helping him land on a stable job or a reliable side hustle or investment, you are just giving him opportunity to grow and support himself, without feeding him everything he needs. That way, you did invest yourself onto him but in a productive way.
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There is a popular quote that says until everyone around you is rich then your still poor. It's same thing here with your concept, we must always elevate the people around us to be free financially, if you're the only person free financially it turns out that you will not still be free in a short time because you will tend to lift all the bills from your household on yourself which I consider as same as suicide.

If you want to be successful then your people have to be successful, you have to take care of your family, friends etc that as so dear to you to the next level for you to go more high. In general we should always extend our hands to people who needs it as it will guarantee our success too.

Yes it is very good to invest on people that depends on you for survival but this should with carefulness, if you are doing this you should also know that there are some persons that fall in the category that no matter how you try to push them up they wont stand, though i never said that it is not good to invest in those one too but the best thing to do is to engage each an everyone of them in a good conversation making aure that you know what they can be able to do before engaging them fully in it, i agree with you that for a rich man to be free from some expenses thats not suppose to stand he or she must consider some things like building more pillars in the family so that it will lessen the burden on him, but the truth is that is not everyone that thinks this way, they prefer being worshiped instead helping their relatives to stand.
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I use to say this more often to people around me, that if you want to help a person in life, then learn to know and identify the strategic place of need in such persons life and fixed it, if you give them bread, they will soon eat it up and be hungry again, but when you make decision in alleviating them and helping them to start an investment that could be profitable for them to depend on for financial survival, they will always earn through such instead of coming back to you for more help.
If we can help other people according to what they need, of course this will be very pleasant for those we help and also those of us who help them and we also really agree with what you said when we teach other people a skill that can provide them with income. on an ongoing basis, of course this would be very good compared to us just giving them food that can only fill their stomachs for a while, if we can really teach our friends about investing, of course this will be very useful for them in the future for their financial security.
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If you have financial knowledge/intelligence, you can try to teach people who are dear to you, suggest finance books to them and support them financially in the little way you can. But i don't think you should "invest" in them, if you take up too many responsibilities, you might run the risk of going broke yourself, i always advise people to live for themselves and help people only in a way that would not affect you financially.

However, not everyone is interested in the process to get there, like making yourself financially educated, and cutting cost several expenses, but everyone wants to be financially independent and successful. With this, don’t feed them everything but give them opportunities to improve their finances. It’s up to them how they will handle those and grab every opportunity that comes.

same here, since I have experienced being in this situation, not all people are interested in learning how to become financially literate but it is better that we give them even a little idea and knowledge about that, it is up to them how they will apply it to themselves and how it will help them. Besides, it's also difficult to spoonfeed them because they won't learn on their own if we always give them everything, right, so the minimal advice and guidance from us is enough and let's just focus on ourselves.
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If you have financial knowledge/intelligence, you can try to teach people who are dear to you, suggest finance books to them and support them financially in the little way you can. But i don't think you should "invest" in them, if you take up too many responsibilities, you might run the risk of going broke yourself, i always advise people to live for themselves and help people only in a way that would not affect you financially.
However, not everyone is interested in the process to get there, like making yourself financially educated, and cutting cost several expenses, but everyone wants to be financially independent and successful. With this, don’t feed them everything but give them opportunities to improve their finances. It’s up to them how they will handle those and grab every opportunity that comes.
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