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Topic: IOTA - the scheme is being pumped hard now don't fall for the trap - page 6. (Read 41078 times)

legendary
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MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG
@CfB: Congratulation, great troll collection!

Thx, I was collecting them for more than 5 years.

Almost as long as you have been collecting the sock puppet accounts

I only know "bcnext" - please share your list.
If you would be so kind, sort it by likelihood.

LiQio

Hmmm, think again.

ha sorry i thought you said glove puppet

I see the same handful of iota  puppets still protecting their bag of scheme tokens.

Surely you have more puppets than these few don't you? I mean it's almost confirmation the distribution was more narrow than we imagined.

The liqio puppet should be put to rest now he is on every iota thread since the start he makes it too obvious now.

legendary
Activity: 1181
Merit: 1002
@CfB: Congratulation, great troll collection!

Thx, I was collecting them for more than 5 years.

Almost as long as you have been collecting the sock puppet accounts

I only know "bcnext" - please share your list.
If you would be so kind, sort it by likelihood.

LiQio

Hmmm, think again.
legendary
Activity: 2100
Merit: 1167
MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG
@CfB: Congratulation, great troll collection!

Thx, I was collecting them for more than 5 years.

Almost as long as you have been collecting the sock puppet accounts

I only know "bcnext" - please share your list.
If you would be so kind, sort it by likelihood.

LiQio
legendary
Activity: 1181
Merit: 1002
@CfB: Congratulation, great troll collection!

Thx, I was collecting them for more than 5 years.

Almost as long as you have been collecting the sock puppet accounts

I only know "bcnext" - please share your list.
If you would be so kind, sort it by likelihood.
legendary
Activity: 2100
Merit: 1167
MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG
@CfB: Congratulation, great troll collection!

Thx, I was collecting them for more than 5 years.

Almost as long as you have been collecting the sock puppet accounts
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1009
Newbie
@CfB: Congratulation, great troll collection!

Thx, I was collecting them for more than 5 years.
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1009
Newbie
You're diverting away from the article into something that has no relevance. This behavior is common with chronic scammers. I wonder if you are one. Smiley

Just give the answer and we'll continue.
legendary
Activity: 1181
Merit: 1002
Let's move to the Byteball thread.

@CfB: Congratulation, great troll collection!
member
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The Alt Whisperer
What a turn of events. IOTA was a god sent before now no one wants to have anything to do with it
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
Byteball is just using same as bitcoin. Cheesy

Byteball is not a DAG?
Its a DAG, but using same crypto primitives as bitcoin, often same implementation even, the libsecp256k1, and sha256 libraries.

There is a proof of concept using another secp256k1 implementation, and another library for hashing functions.

Really, in 2015-2017, someone, cfb, decides in his wisdom that he alone is smarter than the global elite of security professionals and cryptographers, and smarter than Satoshi who also reused existing primitives. Yet CfB delivers high-school worthy result, unsurprising. Let that sink in.

Any iota fanbois still shilling, you know they just want to hand their bag to you.

Yeah, I traded large cap Tangle for small cap DAG because I thought that it was kind of funny how CFB decided to reinvent (perfect) the wheel when Byteball had already perfected the DAG Tangle, but look at the bright side, IOTA can always go back to sha256 while keeping the other key features of the Tangle (free transactions, scalability).  The tech is proven, I just think that CFB wanted to be the first to bring quantum proof crypto to the mainstream.  Maybe he will succeed with it or maybe he fails and has to go back to using sha256, either way, the Tangle still functions.

A great man once said:

"An elevator can't break down, it can only become stairs"

Who knew that he was talking about IOTA.  

IOTA cannot break down, it can only become Byteballesque.
You fail to comprehend basic facts about iota. Are you sockpuppet of CfB?

Iota is not even a stairs, its a centralized single point of failure fake attempt at cryptocurrency, has not functioned a single day without a Coordinator. Failed concept can not have good implementation

Not to mention the devs are infantile pussies.
legendary
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Merit: 2965
Terminated.
It was flawed and on a level of code that is often produced by high-school developers. MIT did the job for you: https://medium.com/@neha/cryptographic-vulnerabilities-in-iota-9a6a9ddc4367.  Roll Eyes
We know their opinion. Now answer my question.  Cheesy
You're diverting away from the article into something that has no relevance. This behavior is common with chronic scammers. I wonder if you are one. Smiley

Don't derail convo with Byteball, please.
A project that is trivially superior to IOTA. Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1009
Newbie
Don't derail convo with Byteball, please.  Cheesy
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
Byteball is just using same as bitcoin. Cheesy

Byteball is not a DAG?
Its a DAG, but using same crypto primitives as bitcoin, often same implementation even, the libsecp256k1, and sha256 libraries.

There is a proof of concept using another secp256k1 implementation, and another library for hashing functions.

Really, in 2015-2017, someone, cfb, decides in his wisdom that he alone is smarter than the global elite of security professionals and cryptographers, and smarter than Satoshi who also reused existing primitives. Yet CfB delivers high-school worthy result, unsurprising. Let that sink in.

Any iota fanbois still shilling, you know they just want to hand their bag to you.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
I was wondering why IOTA is the only top currency up big today.  

Since the ICO 3 years ago, it seems like all anybody around here can talk about is the Tangle.  

So much love for it and so much hate too.  

It seems that you either love crypto or you hate it!

What are you ?

A crypto lover ?

Or crypto hater?

Either way, I'm sure you feel that.  That passion for (or against) crypto.

I think you misunderstand.

The tech itself to me is not the main issue. Until someone breaks it and proves they can once the training wheels are taken off then for me it is unknown. For me at this time nobody really knows but the longer these training wheels stay on then the less likely it looks it can function without it.

Of course I will be more than happy if someone does break it

We both agree that IOTA is flawed, but Byteball is not.  All IOTA has to do is to take the working parts of Byteball and clone it into the IOTA code.  That is the cool part of open source.

Once one tech is working, then anybody can use it.

So be grateful that the smart people over at Byteball are able to bail out the IOTA slackers who obviously skipped class that day they taught differential cryptanalysis... and spelling for that matter (curl, kerl? qerl, kurl? koral? keurl? ckeurel?)


Perhaps cfb thinks that means it is looking good?  maybe just some semantic confusion due to english not being his first language.

Or perhaps quibbling he;s not MIT.

No he's not MIT, but Byteball proves that IOTA can get some Tangle help from the experts who have already proven to us that DAG Tangles are not just some figment of our imagination, but rather blockchain disintermediators incapable of appetite curbing.

DAG/solid tangles/meshnets/byteballs who cares who perfects the next generation of business communication, the main thing that we can all agree on here is that after Byteball, the DAG Tangle is really out of the bag, and it's not going back in!

You might be able to break the tangle but nobody can break the byteball!

Have the MIT geniuses ever broken a byteball?

Not a chance!
Byteball devs are not egomaniacs who think they can invent their own crypto primitives.

Byteball is just using same as bitcoin. Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 2142
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Newbie
Ha that's the sort of free advertising you should employ for your next ico .... haha I shouldnt give you ideas though really should I.

Haha, good one.
legendary
Activity: 2100
Merit: 1167
MY RED TRUST LEFT BY SCUMBAGS - READ MY SIG
Or perhaps quibbling he;s not MIT.

Was just hinting that Neha Narula from MIT Media Lab doesn't represent the official position of MIT. If anyone contacted MIT with a letter asking to clarify their position on the course of actions chosen by Neha Narula she would lose her place of the Director right away. IOTA community doesn't do that because no real damage was done and even more - IOTA got free advertising.  Grin

Ha that's the sort of free advertising you should employ for your next ico .... haha I shouldnt give you ideas though really should I.
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1009
Newbie
Or perhaps quibbling he;s not MIT.

Was just hinting that Neha Narula from MIT Media Lab doesn't represent the official position of MIT. If anyone contacted MIT with a letter asking to clarify their position on the course of actions chosen by Neha Narula she would lose her place of the Director right away. IOTA community doesn't do that because no real damage was done and even more - IOTA got free advertising.  Grin
legendary
Activity: 2100
Merit: 1167
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MIT are saying it does not look good right?

Really? Is there a link to that?
Why yes there is https://github.com/mit-dci/tangled-curl/blob/master/vuln-iota.md

“In 2017, leaving your crypto algorithm vulnerable to differential cryptanalysis is a rookie mistake. It says that no one of any calibre analyzed their system, and that the odds that their fix makes the system secure is low,” states Bruce Schneier, renowned security technologist, about IOTA when we shared our attack

https://www.hnstories.com/news/cryptographic-vulnerabilities-in-iota

Perhaps cfb thinks that means it is looking good?  maybe just some semantic confusion due to english not being his first language.

Or perhaps quibbling he;s not MIT.

Either way be interesting to get an estimated time for the training wheels coming off so we can see if it works.

1 week, 2 weeks a month a year, 2050 or whenever they dumped all the tokens on noob investors and nxt3 is released in stealth.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
MIT are saying it does not look good right?

Really? Is there a link to that?
Why yes there is https://github.com/mit-dci/tangled-curl/blob/master/vuln-iota.md

“In 2017, leaving your crypto algorithm vulnerable to differential cryptanalysis is a rookie mistake. It says that no one of any calibre analyzed their system, and that the odds that their fix makes the system secure is low,” states Bruce Schneier, renowned security technologist, about IOTA when we shared our attack

https://www.hnstories.com/news/cryptographic-vulnerabilities-in-iota
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1009
Newbie
MIT are saying it does not look good right?

Really? Is there a link to that?
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