Topic: IOTA - Unmoderated thread - page 22. (Read 70768 times)

What's the eta for the coin launch

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Bitches are irrelevant. War/competition is dominated by men with balls. You'd been alive about a millisecond in the presence of Genghis Khan.


Is that either-or, or is the word 'nor' not in your vocabulary.

Excuses. You could have agreed upon an impartial referee. If you only want a symbolic bet, then demonstrate how impoverished you are and offer to lower the bet to 1 BTC.


That could be classified as clever and efficient use of marketing funds, doubling the marketing budget by winning the bet while also scoring a marketing coup by illuminating what a bitch whiner loser you are.

Listen loser.  Nobody is going to make a bet with you morons, because anyone with common sense knows that it won't be judged fairly or subjectively.  Not to mention the fact that David doesn't have two nickels to rub together without dipping into company money.  David is a habitual gambler and is now attempting to commit malfeasance by betting with IOTA funds.

Please stop beating around the bush and please accept the bet. We are all waiting.

Flinging wild accusations around won't get you off the hook. You can still save your face. Just accept the bet. You might lose, but you will still gain a lot of respect that you seem to have completely lost as of now.

Thanks!

• You should document that $5 million claim, because I vaguely seem to remember someone writing jl777 was able to raise 1500 BTC and so that wouldn't be worth more than about $1.5 million at the peak. In any case, I read the DAO raised $168 million, so if you want to talk about waste of resources, then there are bigger fish to fry. The BitcoinTrojanHorse Chinese mining cartel "scam" is extracting on the order of 1800 BTC daily some allege at very low costs and those costs charged to the Chinese people via banking and electrical subsidies. None of that mined BTC is getting into the hands of developer such as myself who is actually capable of changing the world for the better.
• jl777 has afaik produced working code for feature such as the federated type of decentralized exchange and he has been working on 100% decentralized exchange. He has written what he claims is a very fast Bitcoin c0mpatible daemon in C which he has named iguana. I chat with him sometimes daily and he is always coding. Being coder myself, I know when someone is actually coding or just bullshitting. Granted he does appear to have presold future BTCD features that are not yet implemented, which is something I would never do. But Ethereum presold the entire damn development and had nothing implemented when they raised $millions. The DAO raised $150 million for future unknown vaporware that hasn't even been described yet! jl777's vaporware transgressions seem mild in comparison.
• It seems just about every altcoin is only used by its investors and doesn't really have much adoption. A similar phenomenon occurs with gold mining junior companies, where most of them are just paper illusions. Yet some of them do become major actual miners someday. This is the way speculation works! If it is too hot in the kitchen for you, then get out of the kitchen and let those who can handle it do the cooking.
• jl777 is not my partner. We have no shared project wherein we are both developing on the same project and both vested in future ROI on that project. Instead he (or SuperNet) invested a very small amount of funds in my project which he doesn't develop on, to help sustain me when I was extremely sick and bankrupt so I could continue to do my CC research and development. I help jl777 get the theory aspects of his latest designs correct (because I am one of the most astute experts on the theory and design side ... and I don't have time to argue with idiots about why I am ... those who work around me daily know it is true ... there are sufficient examples on the BCT forum for one who knows where to look in my archives ...), but I was not helping him on the design of the things he released before such as BTCD. In exchange of my very impressive ability to invent amazing CC breakthroughs, there is an offer for me to do GUI coding in exchange for BTC of which most wouldn't become due and payable until he releases the new projects and raises more funds. I encouraged him to find another developer for that work, but the reality is having me work on his project helps to insure the design is correct and so he understands my worth. But even if I accept that work (which I haven't yet because I want to reserve my limited time for my own R&D work), I would not be vested in the ROI of any new fund raising for any project he does. He and I are not partners. We simply do rational business with each other and talk tech shop on designs, to the extent it makes sense. He is fully aware that he is not allowed to claim that I am accountable for his projects. Ditto he has nearly nothing to do with my project and doesn't advise me on the design issues in my project.
• I was incorrect to waste my time badgering other coins about their ethics. I followed smooth's lead on that. I have already explained that the issuers and promoters may or may not have to answer to the legal repurcussions in the future, but that is irrelevant. Also the key breakthrough in my legal understanding is when I recently realized that if the source code is open source , the protocol is decentralized, and the issuers aren't in ongoing control of trading (which was Ripple's mistake that caused them to run afoul of FinCEN KYC/MSB regulations), then it doesn't likely matter under the Howey investment securities test (which is orthogonal to the FinTech regulations such as FinCEN) how the tokens were issued, because the speculators are in control of their future expectation of profits (return on investment) and thus nothing is secured by the issuer. Forks of the source code and copycat coins are evidence of that reality. I opened my eyes and decided to understand the reality of the nature of speculation. The amount of $ flowing into altcoins is miniscule compared to the other scams going on daily since the beginning of mankind, including for example the fraud of the Federal Reserve and fiat money. The Climate Change carbon tax clusterfuck is many $billion greater fraud than anything going on in altcoin ecosystem, and at least the altcoin ecosystem has the chance to spawn an actual breakthough that helps mankind.
• You seem to have originated from a Communist/Socialist philosophy wherein you think it is the role of society to determine what is fair and how to best top-down regulate the flow of capital. This is incredibly myopic because there is nothing the government can't make worse by regulating it.
  
  "Elephant: a mouse built to government specifications." — Lazarus Long
  
  
  Quote from: iamnotback on June 07, 2016, 10:34:06 PM
  Quote from: enosenose on June 07, 2016, 03:34:29 PM

  Quote from: iamnotback on June 07, 2016, 01:47:12 PM

  The joke is on you not understanding that Armstrong is writing about the medium-term when he is bullish, and in the shorter-term his reversals are guiding us through bounces and dips until we get the V crash slingshot that sets up the medium-term blast off.
  
  Your lack of reading comprehension is the joke. AltcoinUK enjoins you in that handicap.
  

  
  slingshot that feeable puppet mind of yours.... guiding useless scenario after the fact.
  

  
  As MA has explained, there will always be dumb people to be the bagholders in the market. There is nothing anyone could do to change that.
  

I will not explain this again. And you and your cohorts will continue your nonsense instead of rolling up your sleeves and actually creating some competition. All you and your cohorts hypocrite holier than thou masturbation is for losers who can't produce anything and instead want to be self-important from their rocking chairs.

Just end it, we all know you got zero purpose in life.

My research is not a bagholding. I am the only person on earth to have truly solved how to make an ASIC resistant proof-of-work algorithm.

That $5 million was well wasted. $trillions in future value created from a measly $5 million (of which only a small smidgen needed to reach me to create the serendipity of nature's resilience). And you haven't seen even the tip of the iceberg yet.

STFU. You are a depressing, curmudgeon.

Go on with your babbling incomprehension of how nature and the earth functions. And you try to make me responsible for jl777. Who the fuck ever proved that I have anything to do with anything jl777 did? Because I didn't! I wasn't involved in any thing of Nxt.

Go accomplish something and stop whining. If you can't compete, that is your problem. Produce something better for the speculators. Stop your annoying whining.

Yeah, yeah. Your associate has been fucking jl777, James, the chief waporvare asset wizard of this gambling swamp who has been scamming the idiots for years without creating any real world users for cryptocurrency. He scammed out over $5 million, plus the latest Waves scam in which he is "advisor", but he has created nothing except bagholders. His coins and assets used by nobody except by his shills. His coins and assets serve and used by precisely zero (0, nill, нyль, null, 零) businesses. Fine partner and a proper match for you.

Warning! IOTA shill/sockpuppet alert.

So it seems like DecentralizeEconomics and altcoinUK have still not dared to accept iotatoken's bet.  

How typical..all bark, no bite

If you guys have any self-respect whatsoever, please accept the bet. Coz otherwise, you guys sound a pair of clowns..

Saddly, it seems he is.

After long long months of lecturing the whole world from the moral high and pointing out (quite rightly so) the issues with Bitcoin, Ethereum, monero, DASH, etc. and being the crusader of an ICO free and transparent cryptocurrency ecosystem, he came out with a different message. Sadly and most likely the new message is the real one. He revealed that his associate has been fucking jl777, James, the chief waporvare asset wizard of this gambling swamp who has been scamming the idiots for years without creating any real world users for cryptocurrency. So TPTB_need_war has suddenly realized, speculation and ICO is actually great for cryptocurrency. These cryptocurrencies actually are used by nobody except from the shills who try to realize that 50x ROI by getting noobs, naives and idiots into the coins and making bagholders from the lunch money investors? No problem. TPTB_need_war/Anonymint happy with that.

As you can see, he started the who is the bigger dick competition with me, which is an uphill battle from his viewpoint (after all I have been an accomplished troll since 1990, the born of Internet and my first Compuserve account). Never mind, he talks all that bollocks to get the attention like why I am not scrutinizing Bitcoin and other cryptos. At the same time, anybody can read my posts in the Arsmtrong thread and my opinion about the Chinese influence in Bitcoin. Also, I've said publicly, despite I was one of the first investors of Ethereum in 2014, I can't support anymore Vitalik and Gavin Wood, not their DAO scam. Anyway, and again, I am sad to admit, but DecentralizeEconomics quite right about him as well.

Iamnotback is  Anonymint?

Is the tptbnw account locked down by the mods still? i though he said he was leaving by his own choice not because the mods took down his account?

Anyone (who is pretty smart) could come here imposing as anonymint.

Who are you to make unsubstantiated accusations about anyone?  Let's just look at the facts.  You're living in the Philippines with some twenty-six year old bimbo attempting to get a diagnosis on Bitcointalk for a medical aliment affecting your genitals, which you claim isn't a STD (Uh-uh, sure it isn't), while spending the mass-majority of your time posting absolute nonsense in some pathetic attempt to prove to everyone else your self-worth.  Not only that, you get on here and promote the "acceptance of drug use" and "promiscuous sex as natural".  Are you trying to get others to follow you down the path of messing up their lives so completely that there is no return?  What is wrong with you?  You've contracted a disease from your ex-wife, presumably, who was sleeping around with drug dealers to get her fix, and you still think this type of behavior is "natural"?  Not to mention your twenty some year old children, which I can only imagine that you left with your drug-addicted ex-wife when you ran off to the Philippines.  What type of a loser are you?  Who leaves their children with someone like that?  Those kids are going to need some serious therapy to get over you two screwballs.  You've already stated that you don't have a lot of BTC, so why don't you get off this forum, go get a job, and at least attempt to financially provide for your children who you've neglected all these years.

The Freudian slip irony.

Yes


Lol.  Not everyone is as messed up as you are.  Ever thought that maybe some of us are just sick of your degenerate crap?


What?  Qtips are supposed to be soft and round.

What about the alleged Bitcoin scam of mining costs charged to the Chinese people and profits kept for the politically well connected? Do you ridicule it?

And who determines which is a scam and which is not? You?

I agree you have your free will to do what ever you want. And I have the free will to think you are obnoxious. You seem to be under the delusion that you have any relevance in this sphere.

You are as relevant as the ant who just scurried onto my desk and got squashed by my thumb.


Hey Mr. Irrelevant Self-Appointed Altcoin Police Enforcer, you never answered me:

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Boohoo. Isn't that just like life and nature. The lion has to kill in order to eat. Lunch money investors want to take risks and try to become millionaires. Who appointed you as top dick sergeant?

You are welcome to criticize their plans, but your "holier than thou" façade is typically a covering for skeletons in your own closet. I been around long enough in this world to know those who protest the most, have the worst guilt. Applying this psychological tool, DecentralizedEconomics likely has some serious skeletons in his closet revolving about sexual perversion.


This statement is not so hypocritically righteous. You are expressing your foresight. I have my own doubts about the viability of most of the altcoins.

Bitcoin seems entirely viable as the TrojanHorse that enslaves us in a digital loss of privacy and easily executed capital controls with the control over the mining by the oligarchs.

It is one big fucking mess. So please stop the pretension.

You were not right about Microsoft, at all.

But here you finally make some tangible claims that can be falsified in the coming months. So I ask you for the 100th time: do you dare to take the bet?

Also the primary use case for IOTA is not just micro-transactions, it's a distributed ledger. We made it specifically because we need micro-transactions for IoT distributed computing, but it can be used for a ton of other applications ranging from data transfer to e-voting.

We don't engage with scammers in any form of businesses, not even in betting. We ridicule the scammers, call them piece of shit scammers, but don't do business with the IOTA scammers. That's all they got: try to discredit the critics by coming up with all kind of absurd and nonsense bets and then they will cry for weeks by going to all possible threads of this forum "boohhhoooo, he didn't take the bet". In fact, these two clowns come up with a bet every 24 hours. Tell him, you dick is small. He will set up a bet to settle the matter. Tell him your asshole is not tight enough for the horny prison population. I guarantee, the clowns will offer a bet. However, you don't legitimate the existence of a scammer who transformed cryptocurrency into this gambling swamp by accepting any business offer from them.


Good questions, but there is nothing new with regards to this. The measure of success cannot be what normally is a success in the gambling swamp. I have no doubt they will deliver 20-50x ROI for the greedy shills who promote their scam so hard, but how can be a success to create many bagholders and losers? All P&D coins - like IOTA will be - inevitably results in an army of bagholders who lose money. That is not a success, even if the creators of the scam and their shills make money.

I stand by my statement: IOTA will be never used by any TOP100 bluechip IoT business for IoT micropayments, which is the primary use case of IOTA. Nobody from the industry that matters will touch the decentralized micropayments offering (note, meaningless Hong Kong based lonely professionals, their partners are irrelevant in IoT). At the same time that is the primary use cases of IOTA. I was right about their Microsoft Azure hype (I said the sign-up based relation with MSFT means nothing) and I am correct about the IoT use case as well.

Please enlighten us why "free will" is immoral (i.e. the free will to choose to participate in a randomized redistribution of bets).

Seems immoral to want top-down control to remove "free will", for it is the antithesis of the physics of existence:


If Satoshi's idealism was decentralization, you don't want it.

Now readers will understand why I referred you to your own request to look up the definition of 'idiot'. You aren't one of sharpest Qtips in the medicinal cabinet.