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legendary
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White Male Libertarian Bro
June 02, 2016, 09:11:11 PM
Your "leader" has and he has indicated that it was when I was involved with Nxt (which you would therefore have known if such a thing was true).

All that I can recall is that Nxt community was pissed off after you implemented AT on Qora. You were paid but returned the money, it's not worth to be called a scam IMO, especially taking into account that JLP didn't help you with the integration into the core. I don't know about other cases. Maybe ask David for the details?

I gave him one bitcoin directly for him to implement AT on NXT, and I was never refunded.
legendary
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White Male Libertarian Bro
June 02, 2016, 09:07:07 PM
I'm a social-liberalist-technocrat

I initiated the first organized effort in late 2013 to actually get Nxt into the real world, but the greedy whales refused to fund it.

IOTA holders this is your future...

I'm a social-liberalist-technocrat

I initiated the first organized effort in late 2016 to actually get IOTA into the real world, but the greedy whales refused to fund it.
legendary
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Merit: 1198
June 02, 2016, 05:22:03 PM
it's hard to get away with the same trick twice

You must be new around here. I see the same tricks being used in crypto at least 5-10 times.

It is educational about how humans actually behave as compared to how you might think they'd behave, I'll say that.
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
June 02, 2016, 01:17:33 PM
Well, this offtopic lasts too long and is very boring.

You're the one who let it go on so long (which I think you actually prefer as you'd rather not discuss IOTA at all it seems).

It appears that the project in question is about to collapse anyway (it's hard to get away with the same trick twice) so I don't think this topic will actually need to be around for much longer.
legendary
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Newbie
June 02, 2016, 01:14:08 PM
Your memory is rather rusty then as you were the first person I was in contact with in the "Nxt community" (and I certainly didn't come across your current "leader" until many months later).

Well, this offtopic lasts too long and is very boring. I'm not going to argue on such non-important issue as your variant of the reality. Post the last word as you used to do and switch to Iota.
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
June 02, 2016, 01:11:54 PM
I don't have time to dig for old posts. My posts about adding Ethereum feature appeared earlier than you joined inner circle of nxters. Probably guys who invited you made it look like they want to cooperate with you while actually they used you.

Your memory is rather rusty then as you were the first person I was in contact with in the "Nxt community" (and I certainly didn't come across your current "leader" until many months later).
legendary
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Newbie
June 02, 2016, 01:10:53 PM
That is also not accurate as I approached you with the suggestion that I could provide "smart contracts" (no-one *found* me).

I don't have time to dig for old posts. My posts about adding Ethereum feature appeared earlier than you joined inner circle of nxters. Probably guys who invited you made it look like they want to cooperate with you while actually they used you.
legendary
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Newbie
June 02, 2016, 01:08:48 PM
@Come-from-Beyond

So much work to do. Why the hell are you wasting your time in this thread?

I'm not wasting it. For a decade I was contantly distracted while writing software and my brain accommodated to such work style. I write down a piece of code and then change focus to let the subconscious to prepare the next fragment. Answering in this thread doesn't require brain resources, so it's very good for productivity.
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
June 02, 2016, 01:06:18 PM
AT was never your idea at all sorry (it was 100% my idea after I was introduced to Vitalik's white paper on Ethereum before nearly anyone else had even heard of that).

Funny how you keep trying to take credit for my tech (I've noticed you trying to claim that you helped invent AT in other topics as well).

Bad wording, I'll try again:

It was my idea to add Ethereum main feature into Nxt. After that you were found to do the work.

That is also not accurate as I approached you with the suggestion that I could provide "smart contracts" (no-one *found* me).
legendary
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Newbie
June 02, 2016, 01:02:15 PM
AT was never your idea at all sorry (it was 100% my idea after I was introduced to Vitalik's white paper on Ethereum before nearly anyone else had even heard of that).

Funny how you keep trying to take credit for my tech (I've noticed you trying to claim that you helped invent AT in other topics as well).

Bad wording, I'll try again:

It was my idea to add Ethereum main feature into Nxt. After that you were found to do the work.
legendary
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June 02, 2016, 12:49:22 PM
@Come-from-Beyond

So much work to do. Why the hell are you wasting your time in this thread?

@Cyam/altcoinUK
No offence, because i can´t and won´t judge because i don´t know the story. But this kindergarden is so boring  Embarrassed

You both should go seperate ways or talk like grown up persons - best afk! and not online. Otherwise this fight will become a senseless vendetta ....btw: do you know "Pyrrhic victory" ?
hero member
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June 02, 2016, 12:46:42 PM
we won't release unfinished fintech software that hasn't been properly tested

Clueless like a kitten.
hero member
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Merit: 1000
June 02, 2016, 12:39:09 PM

Where do people get these ideas? Where and when have we ever said that we'd somehow exclude the original IOTA network? Never. People should really stop lying and act like adults who actually read terms of sales before they purchase something.



people are scared and concerned given this environment and these circumstances. this may be unfounded and irrational but it is not as outlandish as your rethorical questions implies.

do you feel you are being coerced or bullied if your customers want their concerns calmed?

do you consider it an outrageous abuse if your customers are insecure and scared and ask you to give them piece of mind that this will not happen?

do you blame your customers for being insecure?



Yes, he does all those.

Please note, the only job David boy had in his life is this one, to scam money out from the noobs, naives and idiots in this gambling microcosmos.  He has no experience whatsoever in business or technology. He has never made a dollar (not even one) by creating a product in real world, for real people, real businesses and real world use cases (except when he was flipping burger in the McDonlad's at age 18). Therefore, he doesn't understand the concept of customer, business or investor.
He is good enough to create a blatant scam P&D, but don't expect anything more from a scammer like David is.

legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
June 02, 2016, 12:26:46 PM
AT was my idea implemented by you, why would I want it NOT to be added into Nxt core?

AT was never your idea at all sorry (it was 100% my idea after I was introduced to Vitalik's white paper on Ethereum before nearly anyone else had even heard of that).

Funny how you keep trying to take credit for my tech (I've noticed you trying to claim that you helped invent AT in other topics as well).
hero member
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Merit: 1000
June 02, 2016, 12:26:32 PM

It's really kind of telling that both you and your "leader" resort to personal attacks upon myself (and others) rather than actually defending your project.


They are unable to defend the undefendable. Therefore, they hope to switch the attention from their scam by posting personal attacks.

The Belarusian's very average software development skills, his mistakes that would be unacceptable even from a junior developer and that indicates his lack of experience in commercial software development has been pointed out by me and you as well. It is documented in this thread. They can't defend that broken record.

The complete failure of their IOTA scam terms of delivering any result, no GUI after 6 months, not even one tiny pilot project with any IoT businesses is indefensible as well.

The scammers are in trouble, therefore they troll and attack any criticism.
legendary
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Newbie
June 02, 2016, 12:24:42 PM
But it was you and he that argued against implementing AT in the Nxt Forum and that is why the project had to move (it ended up with no support in Nxt).

To say you weren't in charge when your posts were being so closely followed by the community is not really very genuine.

Hm, I can't recall this. AT was my idea implemented by you, why would I want it NOT to be added into Nxt core? Dig for the links proving your claim, please, I'll come back later after the next coding cycle.
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
June 02, 2016, 12:24:07 PM
Stop lying CIYAM, you were kicked out because you tried to have Nxt 'killed' (your own terminology). Of course no one wanted you.

Again - no scamming evidence you can come up with.

Are you going to finally stop calling me a scammer?
hero member
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Merit: 500
June 02, 2016, 12:23:09 PM
Stop lying CIYAM, you were kicked out because you tried to have Nxt 'killed' (your own terminology). Of course no one wanted you.
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
June 02, 2016, 12:21:49 PM
I wasn't in charge of Nxt core at that time. James has never been at all.

But it was you and he that argued against implementing AT in the Nxt Forum and that is why the project had to move (it ended up with no support in Nxt).

To say you weren't in charge when your posts were being so closely followed by the community is not really very genuine (but I know you like hiding behind sock-puppet "communities").
legendary
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Newbie
June 02, 2016, 12:19:16 PM
The reason that AT had to leave the Nxt project was because you and James "kicked it out" (by refusing to have it implemented).

So if there is anyone to blame about why AT ended up on Qora first it is yourself and him that should be first in line.

As you correctly pointed out I didn't make any funds at all from the work that was done so to try and call that a scam is rather a reach.


I wasn't in charge of Nxt core at that time. James has never been at all.
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