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legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
June 02, 2016, 12:18:00 PM
The reason that AT had to leave the Nxt project was because you and James "kicked it out" (by refusing to have it implemented - the Jean-Luc dev might also have had something to do with that but from what I recall he wasn't really calling the shots at that stage).

So if there is anyone to blame about why AT ended up on Qora first it is yourself and the other Nxt devs that should be first in line.

As you correctly pointed out I didn't make any funds at all from the work that was done so to try and call that a scam is rather a reach.

I tried asking David in this topic (several times) but he doesn't respond (as he knows I was never involved in any scam but just wants to try and call me a scammer anyway).
legendary
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Newbie
June 02, 2016, 12:15:31 PM
Your "leader" has and he has indicated that it was when I was involved with Nxt (which you would therefore have known if such a thing was true).

All that I can recall is that Nxt community was pissed off after you implemented AT on Qora. You were paid but returned the money, it's not worth to be called a scam IMO, especially taking into account that JLP didn't help you with the integration into the core. I don't know about other cases. Maybe ask David for the details?
legendary
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Newbie
June 02, 2016, 12:11:44 PM
Create a poll?

Are you kidding?

Haha, yes.
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
June 02, 2016, 12:11:06 PM
Em... Have I said you were a scammer?

Your "leader" has and he has indicated that it was when I was involved with Nxt (which you would therefore have known if such a thing was true).
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
June 02, 2016, 12:10:00 PM
Why does it need to be defended? Did you really believe that claims of people like altcoinUK, cryptohunter and you are worth much? Maybe create a poll to know the harsh truth?

It needs to be defended because of the money and claims involved.

Create a poll?

Are you kidding?

(but sure that would let the sock-puppets decide wouldn't it)
legendary
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Newbie
June 02, 2016, 12:08:34 PM
Fine - but please drop the "scammer" tag while you're at it.

Em... Have I said you were a scammer?
legendary
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Newbie
June 02, 2016, 12:08:09 PM
...rather than actually defending your project.

Why does it need to be defended? Did you really believe that claims of people like altcoinUK, cryptohunter and you are worth much? Maybe create a poll to know the harsh truth?
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
June 02, 2016, 12:07:09 PM
Got it, never paid attention to this BTT feature, thx for pointing to it. I apologize for "stolen bitcoins" accusation, "Liar" tag is still there though.

Fine - but please drop the "scammer" tag while you're at it.
legendary
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Newbie
June 02, 2016, 12:06:22 PM
Not really - as you can simply click on the Trust link to find out all you want to know (and others might be a bit smarter than you and already worked out that).

Got it, never paid attention to this BTT feature, thx for pointing to it. I apologize for "stolen bitcoins" accusation, "Liar" tag is still there though.
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
June 02, 2016, 11:59:24 AM
You do understand that this behavior looks as an attempt to evade, don't you? At least to all the others.

Not really - as you can simply click on the Trust link to find out all you want to know (and others might be a bit smarter than you and already worked out that).

I guess your "leader" would know this also - perhaps you need to listen to him more to learn new things. Cheesy

It's really kind of telling that both you and your "leader" resort to personal attacks upon myself (and others) rather than actually defending your project.
legendary
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Newbie
June 02, 2016, 11:58:15 AM
I said do your research (it isn't up to me to educate you on what happened when you are the one who brought it up).

You do understand that this behavior looks as an attempt to evade, don't you? At least to all the others.
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
June 02, 2016, 11:53:19 AM
Are you evading to explain that issue with your wife?

I said do your research (it isn't up to me to educate you on what happened when you are the one who brought it up).

Personally I would have thought you were better than that (but it seems your new project is leading to new lows).

I didn't admit that.

Unlike your "leader" I won't post any IMs between us - but let's just say that we agree to disagree on this point then.
legendary
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Newbie
June 02, 2016, 11:51:53 AM
So what was that story about bitcoins and your wife?

If you're going to attack someone you should at least do the basic research - don't you think?

Rewrote maybe? I fixed some serious issues in the code, it's documented on BTT.

No - you admitted that you wrote the entire initial version - the stuff about "bugs" was later.

And again - please explain how I have ever "scammed" anyone on this forum (or anywhere else for that matter).


Are you evading to explain that issue with your wife?

I didn't admit that.
legendary
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White Male Libertarian Bro
June 02, 2016, 11:46:34 AM
I'm a social-liberalist-technocrat

I initiated the first organized effort in late 2013 to actually get Nxt into the real world, but the greedy whales refused to fund it.

INTERNATIONAL COMMUNIST SCUM
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
June 02, 2016, 11:43:52 AM
So what was that story about bitcoins and your wife?

If you're going to attack someone you should at least do the basic research - don't you think?

Rewrote maybe? I fixed some serious issues in the code, it's documented on BTT.

No - you admitted that you wrote the entire initial version - the stuff about "bugs" was later.

And again - please explain how I have ever "scammed" anyone on this forum (or anywhere else for that matter).
legendary
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Newbie
June 02, 2016, 11:42:00 AM
Incorrect - no Bitcoins were ever stolen.

So what was that story about bitcoins and your wife?


I have spread no "bullshit" and I don't intend to play silly betting games with a person such as yourself.

Frankly saying, this looks as another lame excuse. Exactly what any liar would say.


You admitted that you wrote all of the initial Nxt source code (care to deny that now?).

Rewrote maybe? I fixed some serious issues in the code, it's documented on BTT.
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
June 02, 2016, 11:39:40 AM
Haha, the irony. You claim I am scamming without ANYTHING to back that up to prevent yourself from having to accept that we're actually doing something, and in the same very post you ask me to explain why you were a scammer. Hahah, the irony is palpable.

So - as anyone reading this can see - even after three repeated questionings David cannot come up with any reason why he called me a scammer at all (he is hoping now that @CfB can help him which is funny if he is supposed to be the "leader").
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
June 02, 2016, 11:38:04 AM
1. You stole bitcoins and made a lame excuse that your wife doesn't let you to use your computer to return them. Did you return the bitcoins?

Incorrect - no Bitcoins were ever stolen.

2. You were spreading bullshit about Iota and didn't want to put your money where your mouth was. This shows that you knew that was a lie.

I have spread no "bullshit" and I don't intend to play silly betting games with a person such as yourself.

3. You claimed that I admitted to be BCNext. I assume that my English was not that good when we were talking about this topic and you got me wrong. I'd like to see screenshot of our convo (if you have it) to make sure it was just a misunderstanding and you didn't lie again.

You admitted that you wrote all of the initial Nxt source code (care to deny that now?).

As you had originally attributed that source code to the BCNext forum member I concluded that this account must have simply been a sock-puppet of yours (you are welcome to provide a better explanation).
hero member
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June 02, 2016, 11:36:10 AM
How does it feel to know that in the middle of my 20s I will have achieved more than you and altcoinUK combined will from birth to death? Cheesy

Huh - what have you achieved?

(apart from trying to scam hundreds of thousands of dollars from people)

And please answer the question - how exactly was I trying to scam?


Haha, the irony. You claim I am scamming without ANYTHING to back that up to prevent yourself from having to accept that we're actually doing something, and in the same very post you ask me to explain why you were a scammer. Hahah, the irony is palpable.

I do genuinely want to thank both you and altcoinUK for two things, and this is sincere, you have both inadvertently provided a lot of comedy for us and our community, for that I do thank you. Additionally you have truly shown how bitter old men can become when they realize they haven't achieved anything of value and have to witness people half their age achieve more than they ever could. It's an interesting lesson in life, it's definitely worth something in terms of value system and also learning to avoid ending up in such a situation. So for that I thank you, but now I have to go back to work. Enjoy your buzz
legendary
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Newbie
June 02, 2016, 11:34:13 AM
And again - you called me a scammer but are simply unable to substantiate any such claim - you are a liar and a rather poor excuse for a human being.

I know 3 facts documented on this forum:

1. You stole bitcoins and made a lame excuse that your wife doesn't allow you to use your computer to return them. Did you return the bitcoins?
2. You were spreading bullshit about Iota and didn't want to put your money where your mouth was. This shows that you knew that was a lie.
3. You claimed that I admitted to be BCNext. I assume that my English was not that good when we were talking about this topic and you got me wrong. I'd like to see screenshot of our convo (if you have it) to make sure it was just a misunderstanding and you didn't lie again.
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