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February 06, 2016, 11:55:42 AM
#53

I got you ...

I understand like all scammers do, you like to ignore the most important questions about your genius business plan, but the question remains the same. Just like with NXT where the first few realized a very nice ROI, but now there are thousands of bagholders who bought into the hype, now you are mirroring the process with JINN and IOTA, which process will naturally create many disappointed bagholders and more importantly financial loss for many. The difference is that at least NXT is a serious ecosystem terms of features - not because of you but despite you and it is used by nobody in the real world but that is another matter - while JINN and IOTA will never ever deliver anything else than your few pathetic java source files. It will be no JINN microprocessor - you failed to deliver that already. And there will be no IoT business - you have no skill and prospect to deliver that. So what about the inevitable bagholders who will buy into the hype of your army of sockpuppets, shills and cheerleaders?
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February 06, 2016, 11:41:50 AM
#52

This is absolutely true but why do you care ?

Are you doing all of this to warn people like me about the risks in investing in cryptocurrencies (and similar projects) ?


Fair questions, and since you are not acting as a shill nor a cheerleader I am happy to answer.

No, of course I do not want to convince the cheerleaders, sockpuppets, shills and "investors" of IOTA. In fact I couldn't care less what the sockpuppets, shills and "investors" of IOTA say and think. By definition the sockpuppets, shills and "investors" do the moon talk and talk about nonsense such as retirement funds (which started already in your moderated thread) to assist the P&D and pull off that 10x or whatever times ROI.
I am posting to inform the noob, uninformed and naive potential users, which is your target audience. I point out the very obvious fact that following the JINN scam the Scandinavian boy and the Belarus scammer started the another scam of IOTA with their zero ability and consequently zero prospect to deliver any Internet of Things solutions. Therefore it is a scam and a classic P&D operation: present a good looking idea, collect the money and then pump the coin. Having this thread available the uninformed, noob and naive potential users - your target audience once the P&D started - will have other information than the usual shilling of the P&D brigade. In the meantime yourself, an investor who believe in the IOTA project can point out that in your opinion the IOTA project is viable (if the supporters of IOTA feel your moderated thread is not enough platform to spread the bullshit about IOTA). Cool, that's the beauty of an unmoderated thread, both the pro and cons opinions can be posted.

On the other hand, what a few shills and sockpuppets (not yourself but your support brigade) of your project say is not the concern of mine. There are many users understand at Bitcointalk that I am very good at spotting scams. So whether the shills of the IOTA scam like it or not there are many users - your target audience once the P&D started - read my posts when we are talking about scams. It is documented in the Vericoin thread and IRC channel that I took my lawyer to the Moolah HQ in 2014 when the VRC devs were considering a partnership with the Moolah scammer Ryan Kennedy, then I posted about what we found out, and then I contacted law enforcement. Now the Moolah scammer Ryan Kennedy is in jail. The similar happened with Bitbay. My undocumented Bitbay thread stopped the Bitbay scam money party it informed the target audience of the scam. We contacted law enforcement that has jurisdiction over the scammers and the three main figure will be in jail just like Ryan Kenned. Law enforcement has been contacted about Banxshares, it is safe to assume the organizer will face justice sooner than later. I predict, the JINN scammer boy and Belarusian will deliver nothing (except the P&D) and then your IOTA money party will be a law enforcement matter as well.


So tell us, what kind of investment do you recommend apart from cryptocurrencies ?
I think that's the true topic here, if you believe you know better, please tell us !

I am not giving investment advice, but it's not a secret here that very little of my assets are in crypto and the majority of that is of course Bitcoin. I am trading stocks for decades, that is my main investment field, come to the Martin Armstrong thread, ask questions and I am happy to share my experience in stock trading there, but again those are not investment advices.


legendary
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February 06, 2016, 09:55:05 AM
#51
PS: iCEBREAKER where are you?
Hahaha Like this!! +1440
legendary
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February 06, 2016, 09:53:46 AM
#50
@Blocktree: Use your emule handle.

@altcoinUK: You've proven time and time again that you're a nothing but an unfortunate wannabe-investor. Maybe you should go back to counting pennies...

@CIYAM: Wow, Ian, I thought you hit rock bottom when you highjacked the (IIRC) 50 escrow BTC - or was it your wife (ROFL)... But obviously I've been proven wrong. You've become a low level troll?! Better get back to your website business, after sobering up, of course.

@Come-from-beyond: Your troll collection business seems to yield fruit. Congratulations.

PS: iCEBREAKER where are you?
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February 06, 2016, 09:46:11 AM
#49
Another "shit-coin" from the idiot that believes in using "trinary logic".

Who cares really?

(am sure he'll have a bunch of sockies or shills posting here though so get ready to regret that you created this topic)

You shouldn't post that late because during evenings you are usually drunk and this inevitably lowers quality of your posts. I know that you are old, do you really think that strong language adds credibility to your words?

That's funny - because your partner in crime (David) was the guy who said I wasn't drunk back when I swore over stuff to do with Nxt.

Hmm... so apparently I'm drunk when it suits you but not otherwise. Cheesy

I guess you don't know very much about Australians and their language (the country that has the government sponsored advertising slogan "Drink, Drive? Bloody Idiot!").

BTW - how is that trinary logic stuff going? Convinced the world that it is the future yet?


The fact that a raging alcoholic bashes projects that are light-years ahead of his own failed experiment is more sad than it is even funny.

Exactly. This is just envy of "Siamese Fat Old Drunk Cat" because of his disastrous project with turing-complete programming language for Nxt.
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February 06, 2016, 09:44:33 AM
#48
I like this thread. Trolls have such a hard time dealing with CFB because he doesn't react emotionally and responds logically with specific queries that the trolls avoid 100% of the time.

I actually feel a little sorry for the washed up posters here, desperately trying to attack CFB, with such little success.

Well said  Cheesy

Apparently, some are scratching their teeth, jealous of the success.
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February 06, 2016, 09:00:03 AM
#47

This is absolutely true but why do you care ?

Are you doing all of this to warn people like me about the risks in investing in cryptocurrencies (and similar projects) ?
Well thank you but I am pretty aware of the risks, I lost money in the past and I will probably lose money in the future but I am fine with that. I know the rules and the risks involved but this is my money and my choice. Poor choices sometimes but overall much better than gambling,  stock market and housing market IMO.

I like the idea of putting money together for an interesting project even if it fail. Just because we are interested in and that we have to try.

So tell us, what kind of investment do you recommend apart from cryptocurrencies ?
I think that's the true topic here, if you believe you know better, please tell us !



nuff said . !

Amen. And considering how far we are in testing, claiming that 'it doesn't work' seems just a tiny bit retarded.
legendary
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February 06, 2016, 08:29:41 AM
#46

This is absolutely true but why do you care ?

Are you doing all of this to warn people like me about the risks in investing in cryptocurrencies (and similar projects) ?
Well thank you but I am pretty aware of the risks, I lost money in the past and I will probably lose money in the future but I am fine with that. I know the rules and the risks involved but this is my money and my choice. Poor choices sometimes but overall much better than gambling,  stock market and housing market IMO.

I like the idea of putting money together for an interesting project even if it fail. Just because we are interested in and that we have to try.

So tell us, what kind of investment do you recommend apart from cryptocurrencies ?
I think that's the true topic here, if you believe you know better, please tell us !



nuff said . !
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February 06, 2016, 08:19:50 AM
#45
Then why not explain what exactly the "trinary logic" is supposed to do for your (non-existent?) product?

(you never bothered to explain that to me in regards to AT)

The fact that some "trinary logic" research is being done is not in dispute (and there are plenty of other pretty much pointless technologies being researched all the time) but its relevance to anything practical in crypto is.


It's actually genuinely sad when someone that used to at least have ideas (even though they didn't pan out with CIYAM) deteriorates over time. Your posts from 2012 were thoughtful and intelligent and now you are just a sad drunk finding pleasure in trolling projects because your own talent has long since gone the way of the bottle. Get help.
legendary
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February 06, 2016, 06:30:41 AM
#44
Quote
Perhaps the prettiest number system of all, is the balanced ternary notation.
Donald E. Knuth (The Art of Computer Programming)

Cheesy

So because someone thinks it "is pretty" is why your product needs it?

Thanks for backing up my point (that the emperor has no clothes).

Strange that these amazing benefits of "trinary" are just too hard to explain.
 

sort of silly how you imply that Donld Knuth is just 'somebody' with some flowery ideas about mathematics.
 
yeah I remember your drunken rants when you tried your little power grab over at NXT way back in early 2014,  
bellowing how NXT protocol was insecure and NXT should ditch java entirely and follow you to your C++ domain and make a complete re-implementation under your 'guidance'
And ditch the key people of NXT also on the way, making YOU supreme leader.

I'd rather spare me the effort of digging for those skype logs of your intoxicated ramblings about how you had just destroyed the future of NXT.
 
legendary
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February 06, 2016, 05:51:20 AM
#43
Cheesy

So because someone thinks it "is pretty" is why your product needs it?

Thanks for backing up my point (that the emperor has no clothes).

Strange that these amazing benefits of "trinary" are just too hard to explain.
 

I said that the answer is in that book and I don't want to derail this thread.

Right now it looks like you lost the dispute but try to make appearance you won it. You are losing your face, my friend...
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February 06, 2016, 05:36:53 AM
#42
CIYAM long time no see. I said you were not drunk? Interesting… Listen, I know of your issues so I am not going to get nasty unless you push me. I’ll just gently remind you that you shared A LOT of your personal life stretching all the way back to your childhood, so if you decide to make up any lies about me I will share the truth about you. I’ll also remind you that you offered me to lead the CIYAM project, which I declined, which lead to you having a mini-breakdown… Again, unless you force me I won’t share the details because I just prefer to let your drama be in the past.

Anyways, enough nostalgia, moving on... You are allowed to have your own opinions on trinary logic, of course. But calling it ‘snake oil’ is just blatantly false. I would imagine someone who prides themselves in being a ‘software engineer’ rather than a ‘software developer’ would take a more objective stance on this matter. Trinary logic is real and the benefits are well documented in academia stretching all the way back to the 50s. Here let me google that for you.
So maybe stick to something you understand, because you clearly have no idea about trinary logic nor what we are actually developing. We are developing a processor for Fog and Mist computation in Internet-of-Things. IOTA is a transactive layer for this vision of Fog and Mist computing, that is the connection. We are not developing some trinary supercomputer or high-end desktop processors.

Based on my knowledge of your skills as a ‘software engineer’ I invite you to review IOTA and if you find any errors or problems, please do share. But again IOTA has already been reviewed by reputable developers, we have a whitepaper that has been submitted to academic journal and the concept of DAG/Tangle has been explored by other people in the space, so I’m not concerned.


This has been fun, but the days of participating in forum drama is over for me, it’s just way too time consuming with practically no return on investment.
legendary
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February 06, 2016, 05:36:09 AM
#41
Yeah, the activity of the noob sockpuppet accounts in the IOTA thread is spectacular. Typical P&D operation: before the pump the sockpuppets start the moon talk and of course rebut all arguments and critics.
Normally, I am OK with handling the sockpuppets and shills :-))))) in my unmoderated Vericoin and Bitbay thread I have had opportunity to get some experience with them :-)))

I am not a noob sockpuppet nor a shill and I doubt that a serious investor would be fooled by noob sockpuppets.
I could be wrong but I would be surprised.

Your real problem is that 99.99 of businesses are built on experience which normally based on proven track records. The JINN boy's only track record is up to date that he pulled off a successful scam with JINN and failed to deliver anything, except the new money party of IOTA.
Given that statistically from 10 tech start-ups only 1 can succeed even when experienced professionals run the show, without experience the chance is minuscule.

This is absolutely true but why do you care ?

Are you doing all of this to warn people like me about the risks in investing in cryptocurrencies (and similar projects) ?
Well thank you but I am pretty aware of the risks, I lost money in the past and I will probably lose money in the future but I am fine with that. I know the rules and the risks involved but this is my money and my choice. Poor choices sometimes but overall much better than gambling,  stock market and housing market IMO.

I like the idea of putting money together for an interesting project even if it fail. Just because we are interested in and that we have to try.

So tell us, what kind of investment do you recommend apart from cryptocurrencies ?
I think that's the true topic here, if you believe you know better, please tell us !
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
February 06, 2016, 05:26:19 AM
#40
Quote
Perhaps the prettiest number system of all, is the balanced ternary notation.
Donald E. Knuth (The Art of Computer Programming)

Cheesy

So because someone thinks it "is pretty" is why your product needs it?

Thanks for backing up my point (that the emperor has no clothes).

Strange that these amazing benefits of "trinary" are just too hard to explain.
 
legendary
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February 06, 2016, 05:24:54 AM
#39
Then why not explain what exactly the "trinary logic" is supposed to do for your (non-existent?) product?

(you never bothered to explain that to me in regards to AT)

The fact that some "trinary logic" research is being done is not in dispute (and there are plenty of other pretty much pointless technologies being researched all the time) but its relevance to anything practical in crypto is.

Trinary (ternary) gives a lot of benefits but it would be off-topic to explain them here.

Maybe read this book:

Quote
Perhaps the prettiest number system of all, is the balanced ternary notation.
Donald E. Knuth (The Art of Computer Programming)
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
February 06, 2016, 05:21:20 AM
#38
Then why not explain what exactly the "trinary logic" is supposed to do for your (non-existent?) product?

(you never bothered to explain that to me in regards to AT)

The fact that some "trinary logic" research is being done is not in dispute (and there are plenty of other pretty much pointless technologies being researched all the time) but its relevance to anything practical in crypto is.
legendary
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Newbie
February 06, 2016, 05:18:18 AM
#37
For the non-technical people I'll point out that "trinany logic" is "snake oil". Cheesy

Look at http://homepage.cs.uiowa.edu/~jones/ternary/libtern.shtml

Quote
THE UNIVERSITY OF IOWA Department of Computer Science
hints that it's not "snake oil"

Quote
Acknowledgement: This work was partially supported by Jinn Labs.
shows our involvement
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
February 06, 2016, 05:00:24 AM
#36
I see that you are angry judging by ad hominem in your post. Sorry, but I ought to say that alcoholism became a serious problem in your life. You should quit this habit if you want to achieve what you planned (CIYAM software, etc.)

Wow - just wow - first you mistakenly call my post an ad hom (it was not as the "shit" you complained about was directed at the coin and not at you personally) and now you throw an ad hom attack at me.

How about you try and show us how a serious professional behaves instead of trolling and ad homming. Smiley

Regarding trinary logic stuff. We had to create our own circuitry designing software and when we realized that existing solutions don't suit I recalled you and your CIYAM, it would save us a lot of time and money if you completed it...

For the non-technical people I'll point out that "trinany logic" is "snake oil". Cheesy
legendary
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February 06, 2016, 04:56:12 AM
#35
That's funny - because your partner in crime (David) was the guy who said I wasn't drunk back when I swore over stuff to do with Nxt.

Hmm... so apparently I'm drunk when it suits you but not otherwise. Cheesy

I guess you don't know very much about Australians and their language (the country that has the government sponsored advertising slogan "Drink, Drive? Bloody Idiot!").

BTW - how is that trinary logic stuff going? Convinced the world that it is the future yet?


I see that you are angry judging by ad hominem in your post. Sorry, but I ought to say that alcoholism became a serious problem in your life. You should quit this habit if you want to achieve what you planned (CIYAM software, etc.)

Regarding trinary logic stuff. We had to create our own circuitry designing software and when we realized that existing solutions don't suit I recalled you and your CIYAM, it would save us a lot of time and money if you completed it...
legendary
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Newbie
February 06, 2016, 04:49:00 AM
#34
Did you post under your main account? Does BTT mirror contain that post? Are you sure you don't lie as you used to do?

Just like your wonderful NXT is not used by anyone outside of this toxic alt crypto microcosmos, your IOTA and JINN will be not used as well (not least because apparently you are unable to deliver anything businessworthy in the case of JINN and IOTA), therefore someone will have to hold the bag, so you really need to be worried and explain only one minor problem: who will be the fucking bagholders at the end of your wonderful P&D money party?

Is it the only answer you can provide on the questions marked with red?

When you are mirroring the JINN scam with the IOTA scam then your smallest problem is what BTT mirror.

So to go back to the topic, we understand you are very good at creating bagholders (NXT, JINN), and since you are unable to deliver JINN and IOTA, your coins will be worthless (just like your wonderful NXT is), so you need to explain the problem of inevitable bagholders.

I got you - it was yet another lie. I'll add it into my collection and will publish time to time to remind the people that you are a liar. If you are still planning to conduct that scam then better think of changing the name.
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