Topic: [irregularities] Mass Network - page 29. (Read 91893 times)

So here's my update...

after tokyopotato kindly supplied the link to the mysterious telegram channel, I joined and expressed my major concerns and grievances to the dev team [my first complaint was why the hell their telegram group isnt advertised anywhere].

The devs (Daniel) were quite apologetic and seemed quite eager to make up for any neglicence in their online presence over the last month. I put together a 7 or 8 step plan of things i think they need to address asap and they agreed.

So here's my stance: I will leave the team (and encourage others to do the same) alone to sort out their social media presence and to produce some updated plans to their mass.network community. I simply dont believe their previously (pre-ICO) roadmap still stands given they massively failed to raise the target funding. I also believe there are many outstanding questions that need answering re. ICO bounties and exactly who's working on this project right now and why nobody responds to emails. So I'll be backing off for now and letting them sort out these well documented organisational problems.

However I'll be watching closely as I was promised a change of approach.

At the end of the day (contrary to what idiots like henninghomo say) I only want the project to succedd and my btc investment to be profitable.

So I posted that screencap that you call fake. Do you mean you think I created it, or that the person posting that is fake?

Here is the group in case you want to investigate on your own...

Mass dev group
https://telegram.me/massdev

Thanks Colba!

Currently, ad earning is not in place for Mass Network yet.  It is in preliminary development from what I can see.

https://github.com/massnetwork/

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/mass-fair-ads/bddciihmfgjplmgdjnnekkfiefbleipp

Interesting that ourdata.us is a b-corp.  I don't like the idea of creating an account with OurData.Us and giving them any private information.  I would prefer to use Mass or BTC payments without the need to create an account.

I have added the extension,there's much reviews on th site and I don't know how I can earn from this extension,because there are no sign up form compare to ourdata.us ,I will experiment between the two who has the better features and compensation.

Thanks for offering nothing to this debate. You are a waste of pixels.

I'll be posting an update on this later today

There are now 225 holders, so the distribution continues.  

http://coloredcoins.org/explorer/asset/La4szjzKfJyHQ75qgDEnbzp4qY8GQeDR5Z7h2W/ae69eee091b255f98a24107ce4a48bd544190c687ac84aaf4800bbc65db79594/2

And this looks like the address holding Mass Network's 30% share of the One Trillion Mass Coins:

http://coloredcoins.org/explorer/address/16rNecD1B5KjJF3PDqu2JGSw93WpdhLUZH

I just don't understand why they behave like this,I'm sure they got a lot of investors coming from this forum,I even recommend this thread and signature campaign to one of my friend,but they are not posting any update here,it seems these people do not trust bitcointalk at all so they just ignore it throughout their ICO .

lol sure its a fake... you are paranoid

@massnetwork , do u now realize what i was saying back then ? had there been an escrow for the funds, u would have been forced to keep the people informed. But now u can simply show ur real asses as u got the bitcoins & as well as the tokens. Nice!

Yes, internal turmoil is my best guess, too. I am quite active in the Waves community. And Sasha recently pointed out in Slack that Mycelium seems to be sorting out some internal stuff (he was asked how the announced partnership between Waves and Mycelium is coming along).

Agree, and also appreciate this compiled information.

I will give it 3 months to see if they can develop the product and get Mass on exchange for trading.  If that doesn't happen, I will dig into it some more at that point.

Thanks sir and I am happy to be corrected that this is a real channel. I'm still concerned by the lack of official presence here and agree they have behaved terribly.

Thank you. That's what I figured: internal turmoil.

Alexander Kuzmin was listed as an escrow holder and then the new CEO, so the buck stops there as far as I'm concerned. If the project can't move forward, a refund should be given for the full amount to each ICO participant. If things are reorganized and can move forward, all is fine. We just need an update soon.

Let's see how this develops.

need some credible evidence before it will be called a SCAM.

I decided to do my own research into what was going on for this project, and it doesn't appear the case is that they've abandoned the project.

It appears instead that they were expecting to get waaaay more funding than they actually did, but ended up so short that a lot of the staff ended up leaving. (Just in the few linked.in profiles I inspected.)

There are some connections that appear legit. Example

Alexander Kuzmin is a former Russian Mayor.  http://ura.ru/articles/1036255857

And the individual quoted from the mass group, Daniel Novichkov has ties to working in the Russian government as well...
https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielnovichkov

These people fall into place as individuals who would likely know one another.

Their former director of marketing quit last month as can be seen here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-malley-1875484a?authType=name&authToken=I7P7&trk=prof-sb-browse_map-photo

However Sam Cheng Hung doesn't appear to have quit working with Mass, or simply hasn't updated his Linked.in
https://www.linkedin.com/in/samchenghung

It appears their marketing fell through and they're actually in scramble mode to try and get things situated. They delivered Mass Coin on time, so at least there's that.

Comms need to be improved but I do see signs as to why they might be lacking atm. Especially if they're working to get their new project onto exchanges. However, the lax communication policy likely doesn't help brew much confidence for their investors.


Anyways, I hope this helps answer some questions for concerned investors.

Well, it would be nice to have some kind of update.

I think it is premature to claim "robbery" but if any of you have any info to share, please PM me. It might be time for the ICO participants to organize.

DaddyH --


It's not fake. You can access it here: http://telegram.me/massdev


Just want you to know I agree 100% though with everything you are saying.  

I am so disappointed by Alex Pankov (pianist), Alexander Kuzmin, and others in this project who purposely misled this entire community, took our money, and walked away. It has really lowered my opinion of Mycelium and the entire cryptocurrency token industry, and all of the websites that promoted this project like ForkLog.Net, Bitcoin.Com, CoreMedia, Waves platform, and other Russian cryptocurrency projects involving anyone related to these guys. They just disappeared and now they say "Oh we don't have anything to do with this project, we don't know anything about it anymore, go talk to someone else"

They should return the money but this was our mistake to trust them in the first place.  God bless them for when you steal from people so obviously, there is a saying, "You shall reap what you sow."


*edit* If there is anyone still working on Mass Network --- you should really make an effort to communicate with the community.  Twitter, Facebook, Bitcointalk, the Mass Network blog.  Just give updates somewhere.  At least tell us you robbed us to our face rather than hide.

That picture above is likely fake. The only telegram links (on mass website or ici-list) are to the channel below a generic mass channel which hasn't updated since October.

I challenge anyone to prove me wrong and provide the link to "mass dev group". Below is the screenshot of the out of date telegram channel and only published telegram link;

It exists, think they have a link on mass.network or even on ico-list.com.  Here is a relevant post.