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sr. member
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December 15, 2016, 04:38:22 AM
   DaddyH ....  I'd love to think in 6 months I'll be proven totally wrong. But at this moment of my time I'd rather have my btc back ......                        how many do you have Masscoin ? possibly I will buy them back for you at price IKO ..

934343707 - PM me if youre interested in making an offer.
sr. member
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December 15, 2016, 01:14:31 AM
   DaddyH ....  I'd love to think in 6 months I'll be proven totally wrong. But at this moment of my time I'd rather have my btc back ......                        how many do you have Masscoin ? possibly I will buy them back for you at price IKO ..
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Looking for something great!
December 15, 2016, 12:58:09 AM
things a part ... can anyone tell me how to understand this screenshot http://prntscr.com/djmfib
what is amount and total asset ? its showing in Colu site
sr. member
Activity: 364
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December 14, 2016, 10:01:05 PM

In the absence of any official presence we can only speculate. I'm not even sure how much investment this project got in the last week (not that much I imagine).
From viewing linkedin profiles it would seem a lot of the mass.network team are actually full time Mycellium staff. Which makes you wonder how much resource this project is really going to see. I sincerely doubt anyone paid $1M dollars for a few files in Github. Mr Kuzmin doesn't even have a proper LinkedIn profile with any reference to Mass. All very curious.

Thanks for taking the time to check out LinkedIn profiles.  I find that odd because apparently there is no connection between Mycelium Wallet and Mass Network.  I would suggest everyone walk away from this and come back in 6 months to see if anything has happened.










A person with the same username on reddit said the following re. Mass Network:

"[–]Rassah 8 points 2 months ago
So far the news is that our CEO personally invested in this himself. This Mass group has a lot of other high level companies involved too, not just Mycelium. It's still separate from our Wallet."

"[–]Rassah 5 points 2 months ago
I'm fairly certain these came out of the CEO's own pocket. He has quite a few millions of his own."

"[–]Rassah 1 point 2 months ago
Separate organization, since other companies are involved in it too. It's a collaboration of a few different companies, including miners and exchanges"

See the thread for context and a few other comments by Rassah:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/56x83w/mycelium_ceo_acquires_mass_network_for_11m_mass/

According to LinkedIn this rassah is a Product Manager for mycelium.

Something doesn't seem right here. Check out every other legit ico and there's community updates every day. The only update we've had in the last two months was a post on their website to change the ico rules.

No Slack, no Telegram updates, no active forum, no twitter or Facebook activity. Am I being paranoid or is there a serious lack of anything right now.

I'd love to think in 6 months I'll be proven totally wrong. But at this moment of my time I'd rather have my btc back.
newbie
Activity: 8
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December 14, 2016, 09:00:47 PM

In the absence of any official presence we can only speculate. I'm not even sure how much investment this project got in the last week (not that much I imagine).
From viewing linkedin profiles it would seem a lot of the mass.network team are actually full time Mycellium staff. Which makes you wonder how much resource this project is really going to see. I sincerely doubt anyone paid $1M dollars for a few files in Github. Mr Kuzmin doesn't even have a proper LinkedIn profile with any reference to Mass. All very curious.

Thanks for taking the time to check out LinkedIn profiles.  I find that odd because apparently there is no connection between Mycelium Wallet and Mass Network.  I would suggest everyone walk away from this and come back in 6 months to see if anything has happened.


https://i.imgur.com/s9SMRDe.png

https://i.imgur.com/XkrPoed.png?1

https://i.imgur.com/n1jlFFM.png



A person with the same username on reddit said the following re. Mass Network:

"[–]Rassah 8 points 2 months ago
So far the news is that our CEO personally invested in this himself. This Mass group has a lot of other high level companies involved too, not just Mycelium. It's still separate from our Wallet."

"[–]Rassah 5 points 2 months ago
I'm fairly certain these came out of the CEO's own pocket. He has quite a few millions of his own."

"[–]Rassah 1 point 2 months ago
Separate organization, since other companies are involved in it too. It's a collaboration of a few different companies, including miners and exchanges"

See the thread for context and a few other comments by Rassah:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/56x83w/mycelium_ceo_acquires_mass_network_for_11m_mass/
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
December 14, 2016, 08:26:52 PM
That said, there is obviously progress being made, but the question is just whether this progress is being communicated.

I will give the devs the benefit of the doubt and come back in 6 months.

Good luck Mass Network developers!

Chrome Browser plug-in: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/mass-fair-ads/bddciihmfgjplmgdjnnekkfiefbleipp

Browser git-hub: https://github.com/massnetwork/mass-browser





Yeah I agree we want them to be successful. And we have no choice but to give them time. However all those github commits were done before the ICO ended. So it would be good to hear what the ico funds will be used for given they already had a beta version available.

On the topic of staffing there's a definite link between Mass and Mycelium beyond the ex CEO. Anyone can check out the mass.network team page and click on their profile.

Where did you get those images from that conversation BTW? Was that a mycelium staff member?
legendary
Activity: 812
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December 14, 2016, 07:00:33 PM
That said, there is obviously progress being made, but the question is just whether this progress is being communicated.

I will give the devs the benefit of the doubt and come back in 6 months.

Good luck Mass Network developers!

Chrome Browser plug-in: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/mass-fair-ads/bddciihmfgjplmgdjnnekkfiefbleipp

Browser git-hub: https://github.com/massnetwork/mass-browser



legendary
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000
December 14, 2016, 06:42:07 PM

In the absence of any official presence we can only speculate. I'm not even sure how much investment this project got in the last week (not that much I imagine).
From viewing linkedin profiles it would seem a lot of the mass.network team are actually full time Mycellium staff. Which makes you wonder how much resource this project is really going to see. I sincerely doubt anyone paid $1M dollars for a few files in Github. Mr Kuzmin doesn't even have a proper LinkedIn profile with any reference to Mass. All very curious.

Thanks for taking the time to check out LinkedIn profiles.  I find that odd because apparently there is no connection between Mycelium Wallet and Mass Network.  I would suggest everyone walk away from this and come back in 6 months to see if anything has happened.








member
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December 14, 2016, 04:01:03 PM
I received the coins.  Unfortunately, it appears due to the bonus issues I got a lot less than what I expected.  Undecided  Sucks.  I am also still waiting on the payouts of the signature campaign.  I'm getting sick and tired of looking at my signature.



I received them too now.

And, yes, it was a lot less than it should have been. I invested in the very beginning (45% announced bonus, which became 60%). According to my calculations, in reality I got 4.85% over the average (1.0485 times more than an average). I can imagine how much less got the one who invested later. Thanks to MrKuzmin and MrOschepkov for robbing investors Angry

In any case, even if we accept that 55% last minute bonus, the amounts sent seem strange and probably incorrect. If with my 60% bonus I got 4.85% over the average (lets round that to 5%) - then the ones who invested at the last moment (55-65%), got 0-10% over average. Everybody else got much less. Here actually the adjusted (true) investment table I compiled:

1.     The 45% bonus (applied from 25th of August to 15th of September) becomes 60%. -----> in reality got 5% over average
2.     The 25% bonus (applied from 15th to 30th of September) becomes 40%. ------> in reality got 15% under average
3.     The 10% bonus (applied from 1st of October to 1st of November) becomes 25%. ---------> in reality got 30% under average
4.     The 0% bonus (applied from 1st of November to 25th of November) -----> in reality got 55% under average
5.     The 55-65% bonus (applied from 25th November to the end of ICO) -------> in reality got 0-10% over average

Now a question - how this could be? Basic math shows this could happen ONLY if the vast majority (practically almost all!!!) investors were invested in the stage 1 or are returning investors in stage 5.

Can this be the case? If not, then the ICO distribution is calculated wrong.

I would be happy if someone shows me an error in my calculations, or repeat them using his own investment size and receive coins number.

and yes I reckon I'm down by about 30% but we don't know how many people got which bonuses.

So I'm someone in the 1 and 5 category (though I threw in a small amount in 3 as well).
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
December 14, 2016, 02:08:02 PM
I received the coins.  Unfortunately, it appears due to the bonus issues I got a lot less than what I expected.  Undecided  Sucks.  I am also still waiting on the payouts of the signature campaign.  I'm getting sick and tired of looking at my signature.



I received them too now.

And, yes, it was a lot less than it should have been. I invested in the very beginning (45% announced bonus, which became 60%). According to my calculations, in reality I got 4.85% over the average (1.0485 times more than an average). I can imagine how much less got the one who invested later. Thanks to MrKuzmin and MrOschepkov for robbing investors Angry

In any case, even if we accept that 55% last minute bonus, the amounts sent seem strange and probably incorrect. If with my 60% bonus I got 4.85% over the average (lets round that to 5%) - then the ones who invested at the last moment (55-65%), got 0-10% over average. Everybody else got much less. Here actually the adjusted (true) investment table I compiled:

1.     The 45% bonus (applied from 25th of August to 15th of September) becomes 60%. -----> in reality got 5% over average
2.     The 25% bonus (applied from 15th to 30th of September) becomes 40%. ------> in reality got 15% under average
3.     The 10% bonus (applied from 1st of October to 1st of November) becomes 25%. ---------> in reality got 30% under average
4.     The 0% bonus (applied from 1st of November to 25th of November) -----> in reality got 55% under average
5.     The 55-65% bonus (applied from 25th November to the end of ICO) -------> in reality got 0-10% over average

Now a question - how this could be? Basic math shows this could happen ONLY if the vast majority (practically almost all!!!) investors were invested in the stage 1 or are returning investors in stage 5.

Can this be the case? If not, then the ICO distribution is calculated wrong.

I would be happy if someone shows me an error in my calculations, or repeat them using his own investment size and receive coins number.

and yes I reckon I'm down by about 30% but we don't know how many people got which bonuses.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
December 14, 2016, 02:02:12 PM
I received the coins.  Unfortunately, it appears due to the bonus issues I got a lot less than what I expected.  Undecided  Sucks.  I am also still waiting on the payouts of the signature campaign.  I'm getting sick and tired of looking at my signature.



I received them too now.

And, yes, it was a lot less than it should have been. I invested in the very beginning (45% announced bonus, which became 60%). According to my calculations, in reality I got 4.85% bonus (1.0485 times more than an average). I can imagine how much less got the one who invested later. Thanks to MrKuzmin and MrOschepkov for robbing investors Angry

In any case, even if we accept that 55% last minute bonus, the calculations are strange and probably incorrect. If with my 60% bonus I got 4.85% over the average (lets round that to 5%) - then the ones who invested at the last moment (55%), got exactly 0% bonus. Everybody else got much less. here actually the adjusted (true) investment schedule I compiled:

1.     The 45% bonus (applied from 25th of August to 15th of September) becomes 60%. -----> in reality got 5% over average
2.     The 25% bonus (applied from 15th to 30th of September) becomes 40%. ------> in reality got 15% under average
3.     The 10% bonus (applied from 1st of October to 1st of November) becomes 25%. ---------> in reality got 30% under average
4.     The 0% bonus (applied from 1st of November to 25th of November) -----> in reality got 55% under average
5.     The 55-65% bonus (applied from 25th November to the end of ICO) -------> in reality got 0-10% over average

Now a question - how this could be? Basic math shows this could happen ONLY if the vast majority (practically almost all!!!) investors were invested in the stage 1 or are returning investors in stage 5.

Can this be the case? If not, then the ICO distribution is calculated wrong.

I would be happy if someone shows me an error in my calculations, or repeat them using his own investment size and receive coins number.

In the absence of any official presence we can only speculate. I'm not even sure how much investment this project got in the last week (not that much I imagine).
From viewing linkedin profiles it would seem a lot of the mass.network team are actually full time Mycellium staff. Which makes you wonder how much resource this project is really going to see. I sincerely doubt anyone paid $1M dollars for a few files in Github. Mr Kuzmin doesn't even have a proper LinkedIn profile with any reference to Mass. All very curious.
legendary
Activity: 2576
Merit: 1073
December 14, 2016, 01:52:26 PM
I received the coins.  Unfortunately, it appears due to the bonus issues I got a lot less than what I expected.  Undecided  Sucks.  I am also still waiting on the payouts of the signature campaign.  I'm getting sick and tired of looking at my signature.



I received them too now.

And, yes, it was a lot less than it should have been. I invested in the very beginning (45% announced bonus, which became 60%). According to my calculations, in reality I got 4.85% over the average (1.0485 times more than an average). I can imagine how much less got the one who invested later. Thanks to MrKuzmin and MrOschepkov for robbing investors Angry

In any case, even if we accept that 55% last minute bonus, the amounts sent seem strange and probably incorrect. If with my 60% bonus I got 4.85% over the average (lets round that to 5%) - then the ones who invested at the last moment (55-65%), got 0-10% over average. Everybody else got much less. Here actually the adjusted (true) investment table I compiled:

1.     The 45% bonus (applied from 25th of August to 15th of September) becomes 60%. -----> in reality got 5% over average
2.     The 25% bonus (applied from 15th to 30th of September) becomes 40%. ------> in reality got 15% under average
3.     The 10% bonus (applied from 1st of October to 1st of November) becomes 25%. ---------> in reality got 30% under average
4.     The 0% bonus (applied from 1st of November to 25th of November) -----> in reality got 55% under average
5.     The 55-65% bonus (applied from 25th November to the end of ICO) -------> in reality got 0-10% over average

Now a question - how this could be? Basic math shows this could happen ONLY if the vast majority (practically almost all!!!) investors were invested in the stage 1 or are returning investors in stage 5.

Can this be the case? If not, then the ICO distribution is calculated wrong.

I would be happy if someone shows me an error in my calculations, or repeat them using his own investment size and receive coins number.
legendary
Activity: 2576
Merit: 1073
December 14, 2016, 01:21:42 PM
Where can I get the wallet, give a link please?

There is no wallet aside from the web based colu site which is rather basic. 
not true...

So do you know a wallet to withdraw coins from colu.co? I didn't receive my coins yet, but I would prefer to withdraw them to some local wallet as soon as I get them.

Thanks for any info!
Customized App

Created an asset and looking for a mobile wallet for it?

Colu now provides users with a white label version of the Copay Wallet that will support the asset you issued trough the dashboard.

Please fill this form and get access within a few business days / 

Thanks! I didn't find the page you copied this text from, but found this: http://coloredcoins.org/colored-coins-copay-addon/ and this: https://github.com/Colored-Coins/colored-coins-copay-wallet

It looks there is a local wallet, unfortunately it is web-based (not a standalone .exe file), but anyway it is ok for beginning.
I hope .exe version will be available at some point, I am not a fan of using web browsers for everything, even if its more portable, but its inconvenient...
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
December 14, 2016, 12:56:21 PM
I received the coins.  Unfortunately, it appears due to the bonus issues I got a lot less than what I expected.  Undecided  Sucks.  I am also still waiting on the payouts of the signature campaign.  I'm getting sick and tired of looking at my signature.



i just got mine this afternoon too.

Take your sig off - there's no point keeping it now.
legendary
Activity: 1304
Merit: 1015
December 14, 2016, 12:44:05 PM
I received the coins.  Unfortunately, it appears due to the bonus issues I got a lot less than what I expected.  Undecided  Sucks.  I am also still waiting on the payouts of the signature campaign.  I'm getting sick and tired of looking at my signature.

hero member
Activity: 2926
Merit: 567
December 14, 2016, 05:58:18 AM
Is there any update on those who participated in their signature campaign,I have wore the signature campaign for almost a month,the signature campaign should note this,I have just take it out only 4 days after the ico end
hero member
Activity: 1083
Merit: 503
December 14, 2016, 03:21:22 AM
i just testing the mass network plugin, waiting update from the dev  Smiley
newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 0
December 14, 2016, 02:27:27 AM
This is curious.

One address

http://coloredcoins.org/explorer/address/16rNecD1B5KjJF3PDqu2JGSw93WpdhLUZH

holds

644021833570 of the 1000000000000 Mass Coins.

One trillion is 1,000,000,000,000 and that's 644,021,833,570 or 64.4% of all Mass Coins.

The same address shows 3932066511910 total assets received or

3,932,066,511,910 which is 3.9 Trillion, right?

Or am I missing something here?

sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
December 14, 2016, 02:11:38 AM
Folks, am I the only one who has problems with colu.co now..?

As soon as I want to login, it tells me "Verification Email sent, please check your Email", and I get "Colu Dashboard Registration" email (not sure why it is called "registration email" - as I am already registered long time ago).

Then when I click on "Verify" link, it requests me to enter a password to "Decrypt" my wallet. But I have never encrypted my wallet in the first place, so I have no password. Anyone has any idea?

Hi drays,
In fact you had to use two passwords when signing up. The first one is the Colu account password, and the second one is the wallet password, used to encrypt the private seed.

If the problem persists, please let me now, I'll check what we can do to help you.

Daniel
Mass Network



Can you help track down some missing tokens please?
This is the address I registered on the Mass ico site. Haven't received them yet.


http://coloredcoins.org/explorer/address/1FxtMUY3fJchDwYyCqMvsCMW5Nc9FQrnDe
sr. member
Activity: 1330
Merit: 251
December 14, 2016, 02:05:31 AM
Folks, am I the only one who has problems with colu.co now..?

As soon as I want to login, it tells me "Verification Email sent, please check your Email", and I get "Colu Dashboard Registration" email (not sure why it is called "registration email" - as I am already registered long time ago).

Then when I click on "Verify" link, it requests me to enter a password to "Decrypt" my wallet. But I have never encrypted my wallet in the first place, so I have no password. Anyone has any idea?

Hi drays,
In fact you had to use two passwords when signing up. The first one is the Colu account password, and the second one is the wallet password, used to encrypt the private seed.

If the problem persists, please let me now, I'll check what we can do to help you.

Daniel
Mass Network   
Дaниил , кaк я пoнял вы имeeтe oтнoшeниe к Maccoвoй ceти , xoтeл бы yзнaть кoгдa и нa кaкиe биpжи плaниpyeтcя выxoд мoнeты .                                                                                                                               Aлeкceй .                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Daniel, as I understood you relate to the Mass network, would like to know when and what exchanges the output of coin is planned on .                                                                                                                               Alex .

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