Topic: Is a Madmax outcome coming before 2020? Thus do we need anonymity? - page 19. (Read 102789 times)

Wow, you paint an awful picture.

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Subject: Please differentiate between assets of the upper middle class and  the masses
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Mon, June 2, 2014 11:46 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/02/getting-off-the-grid-2/



Note the plan is to isolate the upper middle class for confiscation because the masses will be dependent of the State for their health care, food stamps, rent, unemployment insurance payments, etc..

Thus advising your wealthy readers to buy real estate to get off the grid is not going to work out. They will clawback all withdrawals from European banks as an intent to avoid the bailins, which were announced publicly long ago. This is a fraudulent transfer.

There won't be any resistance because the masses will be dependent on the State and supporting the "99% against the 1%".

The State rights won't help you when the federal government and G20 asserts that the individual moved funds fraudulently to avoid bailins and taxation.

The MF Global incident was the trial balloon for clawbacks.

At best, their real estate will become illiquid and locked up in ligitation, and probably also tainted as no one will want to buy an asset which has a disputed claim against it by the feds and the G20.

I told this is nothing like the French Revolution nor the Great Depression. This is more like the fall of Rome. This is the death of stored capital and the rise of the Knowledge Age (individual brain as capital) as the new frontier.

You would much better to advise clients to buy precious metals as these are untraceable. They can liquidate these by selling on a decentralized exchange coming for crypto-currencies, with personal meetups.

Only two asset classes will survive for the wealthy:

1. precious metals (and collectables)
2. crypto-currencies

The global elite and some multi-nationals will retain assets because they are protected by being complicit with the DEEPER STATE.

Indeed they are going to create the worst global crisis ever intentionally in order to bring about mass support for a new world order.


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Subject: You recommend Bush's states?
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Tue, June 3, 2014 12:07 am
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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Bush's state is Texas and his brother was (is?) governor of Florida.

It is clear that the masses will not agree to austerity, thus they are going to be very much in favor of stripping the rich of their assets. As this ratchets downward, the middle class segregate into those who have fallen dependent on the government and those who are now the "rich". For example in France the masses initially supported 75% tax against rich, until they realized this included themselves, next they will face economic implosion and then the mass support for "tax the rich" will rise again. This is the ratcheting process.

Who is going to resist? The boomers are too old and dependent on Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, etc.. Ditto Europe. The youth are unemployed and so the best way to employ them is to create wars which will come on schedule 2018 or so.

Also I didn't assert that JFK was killed only for his EO 1110 about silver certificates. The Vietnam war and Cuba stances could also have been reasons.

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Subject: I expect all TRACEABLE assets will be effectively confiscated
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Mon, June 2, 2014 12:02 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/02/getting-off-the-grid/


The USA has contingent liabilities of $200 trillion and even if every asset in the USA was confiscated it wouldn't amount to $200 trillion. This discrepancy will worsen as Obamacare, rising taxes kick in and other measures to nationalize the wealth.

They are tracking everything including real estate and stocks. Everything will be taken as the nations try to not default on their debts. It will be a downward spiral in the abyss, because the more assets taken to pay debts, the worse the economy and thus the lower the tax revenues so the more they will have to take.

There is no escape in any traceable asset.

I am trying to find the source of two quotes which I think were attributed to anonymous sources within the Treasure department (perhaps Larry Summers).

"We are going to destroy all the millionaires".

"We will burn the fingers of the goldbugs up to their armpits".

We are headed into something quite different than the Great Depression.

The globalists want to eliminate all competition from millionaires. The millionaires will be isolated and few in numbered compared to the improverished masses (as the middle class is sliding into poverty all over the world). Thus it will be very easy to turn the masses against the millionaires.

The next step will be to bring the mainstream Europeans middle class into poverty, then the fireworks will really begin in earnest.

More confirmation in the Retail Death Rattle:

http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/bad-trend-breaking-retail-results-not-better-than-expected-but-worse-than-ever/

We'll need to radically alter the laws of physics first before we can even start to talk about free energy. .



One the most promising of these endeavours  are research into bio-cellulosic fuel, potentially this could be one of the more efficient ways of converting the suns',s energy into a more compact ,readily available and easily transportable  energy source.Unfortunately, there is yet to be any breakthrough that would make this process practical or commercially viable.


BTW, I think we're drifting quite well away from the thread title.

The source of the energy in the plant isn't the "stuff" it takes from the soil, but the Sun.
Anyway, until now, all attempts to extract biodiesel from corn and other plants has been a transfer (with some loss) from energy spent growing the plant (mainly, electricity, based on natural gas) to biodiesel.

All of it is still taking matter from one location, applying the sun to it, and dispersing it in another location as you withdraw energy. So, if it won't be Big Oil, it'll be Big Fertilizer, or Big Algae, or whatever. It's great to strive for more efficiency, just don't think that growing our fuel will somehow give us unlimited free energy without any oligarchs

Hence why biofuel researchers  likes to focus on non food source plants as their candidates (e.g. switchgrass,energy cane ,black locust ,willow etc).

Burning food resource to serve as energy isn't really a good idea.


Madmax will probably arrive before 2020.

There is a very good reason why no environmental and bio diesel scientist /engineers considers  hemp as viable bio-diesel material,hemp is a terrible plant for  for bio diesel production.The yield is pathetically low when compared to other candidates,the fact is there are plants that easily outclasses hemp both in oil production(via hemp seed) or plain biomass production readily available in every growing climate and region.Furthermore large scale  hemp cultivation  is just as damaging to the soil as   corn and cotton .

The plant pulls stuff out of the ground, and then doesn't put it back if the plant is removed. Know that saying that matter/energy can't be created or destroyed? Where do you think the stuff that makes plants come from? Sand and clay?

Is AnonyMint, Martin Armstrong? His posts are practically just reports of that blog.

Cancer has the characteristic of living beyond its lifespan, that create a problem for the host and usually kill the host if it spread fast enough.


In the unlikely event we find a way to live beyond our lifespan, that can also create the same kind of problem for the host (planet/universe).

There are some promising studies on cell regeneration, but eternal youth (as more or less seen in that movie) is still faraway: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_immortality

Have you guys ever seen the movie In time with Justin Timberlake.
Its actually a good movie, and I think the world they live in is actually how the world could be in a few decades.
The poorest people in that movie live in the most shitty city in the world, and all are workers in a factory and no one cares about them.
They are seperated from people that only live a class above them and you have like 5 different classes and every class lives in a better part of the world
If you want to go to from class 5 to class 4, you have to pay money to pass the gates. and from class 2 to class 1 costs alot.
Only the real rich lived there Seperated, from all the poor so they couldn't attack them or steal from them.

If I recall well, the madmax situation was created by a Peak Oil, not a financial crisis.
No financial crisis will ever create a situation of society collapse.  Currently, Zimbabwe doesn't have a true national currency, it's economy is working on foreigner currencies. But society didn't collapse.

Over the cliff we go...

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/24/income-tax-revenues-collapsing-in-the-states/

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Subject: Weary of irrational biases
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Thu, May 22, 2014 11:53 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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This will probably be my last communication on these sort of debates,
because I can't convince someone who has an irrational bias and refuses to
be objective and based in fact and analysis.


http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/22/the-end-goal/


You've observed history and seen that never once has any political system
been stable and they always devolve to Totalitarianism at the end game.
Yet you still come back for more sloppy seconds, thirds, and Nths.

You've observed history and seen that the technologies for global control
and the level of global control have radically increased. Yet you deny the
global hegemony that will result from your idealistic delusion above.

You've observed history and seen that the only escape and freedom has ever
come in the form of a frontier where the oppressed can compete against the
cancer and thus survival of the human race.

Yet now you say we can just burn without a frontier and reform.

You've fucking lost your mind.

Most people will masturbate like this, because they don't have the skills
to work on the information technology frontier so as to provide real
solutions.

You are too vested in the old school, in idealism about political
structure and top-down planning and organization.

You will be swept away by decentralization technology.

End.



http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/22/the-age-of-disinformation-hiding-truth-in-plain-sight/


Indeed, the truth is in detailed analysis of the material facts rather
than broad-brushed generalizations such as when you Martin refuse to
analyze and accept the detailed factual analysis of the likes of Anthony
Sutton on the existence and manipulations funded by the globalists.

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Subject: There will never be effective planning in government (not even in  China)
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Wed, May 21, 2014 9:07 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/21/21188/


Martin, it is clear from your posts about China that you admire their 5
and 10 year top-down central planning. You've even written that when you
were in China you saw them observing the prices of everything (even 64
variants of tea) and you admired that they didn't intervene but just
collected data to understand the markets.

You think that government can be made to act rationally if for example
term limits are implemented in the West.

What you fail to understand is that China's planning is an abject failure.
China is rising only because their people were so undervalued relative to
the rest of the world, not because as you attribute to some brilliance of
Communist planning. It was just time (as you often say about your cycles
model).

The coming Knowledge Revolution is going to shred these top-down planning
paradigms (the globalist agenda is a paradigm of passive capital being
defeated and the rise of the individualized capital in the Knowledge Age).
The people will rise to direct power via the power of decentralized
technologies on the network.

You are entirely missing the real trend at hand. Your mind is still stuck
in your political and high-end money manager connections. All of you are
going to become increasingly irrelevant.

I again refer you to the following threads to bring yourself up to speed
on the fledgling trend at hand:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6078778

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/economic-devastation-355212

Educate yourself by reading carefully the above threads.

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Subject: Eliminating career politicians doesn't eliminate the power vacuum   of democracy
From:    AnonyMint
Date:    Wed, May 21, 2014 8:24 pm
To:      "Armstrong Economics" <[email protected]>
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http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/21/return-of-corruption-sorry-lobbying/


Martin, setting term limits won't resolve the perils of socialism and
collectivism.

You are naively expecting that if the people who are elected have no
incentive to remain in office then they will try to do what is best for
the citizens rather than appeasing lobbyists.

Again you fail to understand the deeper implications of the reference I
have sent you numerous times as follows.

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=984


Let me spell it out for you. The "special interest groups" are the
citizens. The citizens form groups that demand the government give them
benefits. For example, you documented this recently "Germany is promising
a Woman’s Mother’s Pension  for those mothers whose children were born
before 1992. They will be entitled to early retirement at 63":

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/05/18/german-politicians-promise-unfunded-pensions-just-to-win/

Politicians get elected when they promise everyone everything. Term limits
won't change the fact that citizens view government as a collective trough
from which each citizen should vote to get their fair share. Problem is
that to appease this it requires politicians to promise more and more
share, i.e. government becomes a larger and larger share of the GDP
crowding out the private sector and ultimately reaching Totalitarianism as
we are entering now with the NSA and the hunt for all wealth to fund the
for example $200 trillion of actuarial obligations promised by the U.S.
government.

Martin you are just masturbating with the term limits idea. In fact, you
play right into the plans of the globalists, because reform of the
nation-states is part of the globalist agenda taking us towards
"international cooperation and oversight for transparency" which is a code
phrase for global hegemony and enslavement of the global citizen in the
power vacuum of global collectivism.

The only solution to rising to periodic end game of collectivism (when it
reaches Totalitarianism) has always been for the intellectuals and
forthright to seek out frontiers. In fact, your masturbation delusion
about term limits as a nirvana is in direct defiance of the your own model
which tells you there must always be a cycle. The cycle has always been
and will always be an oscillation between rising socialism and rising
frontiers.

So now the frontier of geography and cash are gone. So what is the next
frontier? It is of course technological.

Sooner or later you will realize I am correct.

Cross-posting...