Is escrowing for yourself using a secret alt OK? - page 5.

Vod

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Quote from: Quickseller on September 13, 2015, 02:24:50 AM

What are you talking about? Wha escrow scam did I "pull"? An "escrow scam" is where one party receives money into "escrow" (while being the escrow) and then fails to deliver the agreed upon goods. Is there someone that is claiming this happened to?

Been discussed a couple times already in this thread and your scam accusation thread. You scammed multiple times. Proof has been presented.

In case anyone is wondering, the term for a person like QS who ignores social norms and believes he is always in the right is "psychopath".

Quickseller

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Quote from: Vod on September 13, 2015, 01:39:36 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on September 13, 2015, 01:35:50 AM

Quote from: Vod on September 13, 2015, 01:33:11 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on September 13, 2015, 01:29:46 AM

If you are going to call me a scammer then please confirm who exactly I scammed and for how much. I will most then gladly repay anyone who can document that I stole from, however I am confident this is not the case.

If this is not the case then kindly retract your statement as your are liable for libel as you are directly damaging my reputation because you are making a statement that you are aware is untrue, and you are aware that such statement is detrimental to my reputation.

I have no idea how many people you scammed, for you didn't keep public records of who you escrowed for.

You are a scammer and you are a liar. What damage could I possibly do to your reputation?

So you are calling me a scammer, yet you have zero evidence that I actually scammed someone? That is kind of reckless don't you think? Maybe in the future you should ensure that you have actual evidence that someone has actually stolen money from someone before claiming something that is detrimental to their reputation.

lol... are we to go back and forward all night? You admitted to pulling the escrow scam many times. When a person pleads guilty in court, there is no need for further evidence.

What are you talking about? Wha escrow scam did I "pull"? An "escrow scam" is where one party receives money into "escrow" (while being the escrow) and then fails to deliver the agreed upon goods. Is there someone that is claiming this happened to?

TheButterZone

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I wonder if https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-dealing is the term most apropos.

Quote from: Vod on September 13, 2015, 01:39:36 AM

lol... are we to go back and forward all night? You admitted to pulling the escrow scam many times. When a person pleads guilty in court, there is no need for further evidence.

B-but...

Quote from: Decoded on September 13, 2015, 01:40:41 AM

you should first put the 10btc to a trusted escrow (Quickseller) since you are dealing with QS ROFLMAO

BAHAHAHAHA

botany

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Quote from: TheButterZone on September 13, 2015, 01:34:24 AM

P.S. tl;dr... did any staff tie https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/qs-banned-552167 to Quickseller and confirm that Quickseller wasn't actively banned at the time https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/qs-banned-552167 was created?

QS Banned posted a PGP signed message.
Badbear confirmed that QS wasn't banned.

Quote from: BadBear on September 08, 2015, 01:06:47 AM

I removed Quickseller because he was acting to deceive people, and I can't, and won't, be a part of that (he wasn't banned) if I know about it.

Decoded

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Quote from: [BTC]onFIRE on September 12, 2015, 09:41:59 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on September 12, 2015, 09:39:48 PM

Quote from: [BTC]onFIRE on September 12, 2015, 09:36:20 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on September 12, 2015, 09:35:35 PM

Quote from: [BTC]onFIRE on September 12, 2015, 09:34:37 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on September 12, 2015, 09:33:34 PM

Quote from: [BTC]onFIRE on September 12, 2015, 09:29:06 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on September 12, 2015, 09:27:41 PM

Quote from: Vod on September 12, 2015, 09:23:50 PM

The exact words Quickseller used were

"Forced 3 day break from the forum Be back Saturday".

Since he didn't have a forced 3 day ban, that makes Quickseller a proven liar.

"https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12331922"

Is the word "ban" anywhere in that statement? Would there be any other reasons why one might force themselves from taking a break from the forum?

Assuming that you could somehow conclude that the above statement is a lie, you still have the issue of proving that I stole money from someone which is what is causing you to be liable for libel.

Why are you still trying to talk your way out? You didn't read my post? -_-

I have no interest in reading posts that are overwhelmingly obvious being made to build up your account and later sell. If you wanted to post from your main account (not that I don't know what it is), and not one that was purchased sometime before mid May of this year, then I would consider reading your posts

Let's make a bet. If I bought this account, you give me 1 BTC. If I didn't buy this account, I give you 10 BTC.

Fair?

Sure, prove that you have 10 BTC

I'll sell all my possessions to buy and send you 10 BTC if what you claim is true.

Sorry. I am not going to make that bet if I cannot be assured that I will receive payment immediately after the conditions of my winning such bet would be met (and I would obviously need you to put such funds in escrow ahead of time).

If you want to make the bet, I can gather 10 BTC

. Let me know if you want to do the bet.

you should first put the 10btc to a trusted escrow (Quickseller) since you are dealing with QS ROFLMAO

Vod

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Quote from: Quickseller on September 13, 2015, 01:35:50 AM

Quote from: Vod on September 13, 2015, 01:33:11 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on September 13, 2015, 01:29:46 AM

If you are going to call me a scammer then please confirm who exactly I scammed and for how much. I will most then gladly repay anyone who can document that I stole from, however I am confident this is not the case.

If this is not the case then kindly retract your statement as your are liable for libel as you are directly damaging my reputation because you are making a statement that you are aware is untrue, and you are aware that such statement is detrimental to my reputation.

I have no idea how many people you scammed, for you didn't keep public records of who you escrowed for.

You are a scammer and you are a liar. What damage could I possibly do to your reputation?

So you are calling me a scammer, yet you have zero evidence that I actually scammed someone? That is kind of reckless don't you think? Maybe in the future you should ensure that you have actual evidence that someone has actually stolen money from someone before claiming something that is detrimental to their reputation.

lol... are we to go back and forward all night? You admitted to pulling the escrow scam many times. When a person pleads guilty in court, there is no need for further evidence.

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Quote from: Vod on September 13, 2015, 01:33:11 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on September 13, 2015, 01:29:46 AM

If you are going to call me a scammer then please confirm who exactly I scammed and for how much. I will most then gladly repay anyone who can document that I stole from, however I am confident this is not the case.

If this is not the case then kindly retract your statement as your are liable for libel as you are directly damaging my reputation because you are making a statement that you are aware is untrue, and you are aware that such statement is detrimental to my reputation.

I have no idea how many people you scammed, for you didn't keep public records of who you escrowed for.

You are a scammer and you are a liar. What damage could I possibly do to your reputation?

So you are calling me a scammer, yet you have zero evidence that I actually scammed someone? That is kind of reckless don't you think? Maybe in the future you should ensure that you have actual evidence that someone has actually stolen money from someone before claiming something that is detrimental to their reputation.

TheButterZone

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RIP Mommy

Quote from: Quickseller on September 13, 2015, 01:15:47 AM

Quote from: Vod on September 13, 2015, 01:10:02 AM

Right here idiot. The alt you made up.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/qs-banned-552167

Please show where exactly, I explicitly said that I was banned. If you are referring to the handle, then I would ask if you believe that every other handle is a description of that person. Do you truly believe that BadBear is actually a bear that is bad?

No more than we believe anything from you that may be a pathological lie, obfuscation, or equivocation, at this point.

P.S. tl;dr... did any staff tie https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/qs-banned-552167 to Quickseller and confirm that Quickseller wasn't actively banned at the time https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/qs-banned-552167 was created?

Quickseller

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Let me ask another way.....Who is claiming they have had money stolen from me and how much do they think they had stolen? Or who exactly was I attempting to steal from? Or where was I generally attempting to steal from someone in general....

Vod

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Quote from: Quickseller on September 13, 2015, 01:29:46 AM

If you are going to call me a scammer then please confirm who exactly I scammed and for how much. I will most then gladly repay anyone who can document that I stole from, however I am confident this is not the case.

If this is not the case then kindly retract your statement as your are liable for libel as you are directly damaging my reputation because you are making a statement that you are aware is untrue, and you are aware that such statement is detrimental to my reputation.

I have no idea how many people you scammed, for you didn't keep public records of who you escrowed for.

You are a scammer and you are a liar. What damage could I possibly do to your reputation?

Quickseller

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Quote from: Vod on September 13, 2015, 01:22:27 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on September 13, 2015, 01:15:47 AM

Quote from: Vod on September 13, 2015, 01:10:02 AM

Right here idiot. The alt you made up.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/qs-banned-552167

Please show where exactly, I explicitly said that I was banned. If you are referring to the handle, then I would ask if you believe that every other handle is a description of that person. Do you truly believe that BadBear is actually a bear that is bad?

It's the combination of you calling yourself banned in your username, and saying you were forced away from the forum for 3 days.

We get it. You are type of person that will type "I will scam you" then completely deny that you typed "I'll scam you". You slowly and methodically make little white lies that no one can hold you to. I'm ashamed I ever called you a scam buster.

Scammers like you are the very reason lawyers exist. Undecided

If you are going to call me a scammer then please confirm who exactly I scammed and for how much. I will most then gladly repay anyone who can document that I stole from, however I am confident this is not the case.

If this is not the case then kindly retract your statement as your are liable for libel as you are directly damaging my reputation because you are making a statement that you are aware is untrue, and you are aware that such statement is detrimental to my reputation.

Vod

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Quote from: Quickseller on September 13, 2015, 01:15:47 AM

Quote from: Vod on September 13, 2015, 01:10:02 AM

Right here idiot. The alt you made up.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/qs-banned-552167

Please show where exactly, I explicitly said that I was banned. If you are referring to the handle, then I would ask if you believe that every other handle is a description of that person. Do you truly believe that BadBear is actually a bear that is bad?

It's the combination of you calling yourself banned in your username, and saying you were forced away from the forum for 3 days.

We get it. You are type of person that will type "I will scam you" then completely deny that you typed "I'll scam you". You slowly and methodically make little white lies that no one can hold you to. I'm ashamed I ever called you a scam buster.

Scammers like you are the very reason lawyers exist. Undecided

Quickseller

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Quote from: Vod on September 13, 2015, 01:10:02 AM

Right here idiot. The alt you made up.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/qs-banned-552167

Please show where exactly, I explicitly said that I was banned. If you are referring to the handle, then I would ask if you believe that every other handle is a description of that person. Do you truly believe that BadBear is actually a bear that is bad?

Vod

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Right here idiot. The alt you made up.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/qs-banned-552167

Quickseller

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Quote from: dooglus on September 13, 2015, 12:11:58 AM

Quote from: Vod on September 12, 2015, 09:20:35 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on September 12, 2015, 09:18:51 PM

Quote from: Vod on September 12, 2015, 09:17:48 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on September 12, 2015, 09:15:53 PM

What exactly did I lie about? Please quote the exact statement that I said that was a lie, and provide the proof that it was a lie.

"I've been banned for 3 days"

Please point to the post where I made that exact statement.

How? You removed it from your profile.

I guess this is what Vod is referring to. You claimed that you had been forced to take a 3 day break from the forum, while at the same time you were posting from other alt accounts. So in what sense were you forced to take the break? That's the lie I think:

From google's cache:

"This is Google's cache of https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=977370.0;all. It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on 3 Sep 2015 23:43:00 GMT"

Why don't you point out exactly where that says I am banned. Please and thank you.

dooglus

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Quote from: Vod on September 12, 2015, 09:20:35 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on September 12, 2015, 09:18:51 PM

Quote from: Vod on September 12, 2015, 09:17:48 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on September 12, 2015, 09:15:53 PM

What exactly did I lie about? Please quote the exact statement that I said that was a lie, and provide the proof that it was a lie.

"I've been banned for 3 days"

Please point to the post where I made that exact statement.

How? You removed it from your profile.

I guess this is what Vod is referring to. You claimed that you had been forced to take a 3 day break from the forum, while at the same time you were posting from other alt accounts. So in what sense were you forced to take the break? That's the lie I think:

From google's cache:

"This is Google's cache of https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=977370.0;all. It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on 3 Sep 2015 23:43:00 GMT"

jonald_fyookball

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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political

Quote from: Quickseller on September 12, 2015, 03:10:30 AM

Quote from: Vod on September 12, 2015, 03:05:08 AM

Quote from: Quickseller on September 12, 2015, 03:00:09 AM

Why would someone be willing to pay more for an item because escrow is used?

The same reason anyone pays a premium - for protection against fraud.

This protection is already there if you trust the person you are dealing with to send first to them.

The risk of the other person running away with the coins is exactly the same if you are sending first or if they are acting as an escrow agent.[/list]

I don't know who are trying to convince, us or yourself.

Trades come with risk and escrow mitigates the risk. And you always pay a bit extra for less risk
whether you're talking insurance, investing, gambling, trading, business, whatever.

If the price plus escrow fees is greater than the value threshold, and someone is unwilling to pay
the premium, then they shouldn't take the trade. But it's their choice.

While it is true that sending first is the same risk as sending to the same person who says they are an escrow, that doesn't change the fact that you aren't a neutral party, that you used deception, and the other party didn't truly get the risk mitigation they thought they were getting. I'm shocked you're even still arguing about this.

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@Quickseller Adding me trust calling me marco? That's the reason you lost your trust. If you can prove I am anybody you even know, I'll give you 0.5 BTC for your time

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Quote from: Coinonomous on September 12, 2015, 09:46:10 PM

Quote from: [BTC]onFIRE on September 12, 2015, 09:44:17 PM

Quote from: Coinonomous on September 12, 2015, 09:43:26 PM

Quote from: Vod on September 12, 2015, 09:38:27 PM

Why wouldn't he be allowed? Because he was pretending to be banned. Undecided

The more this guys posts, the digger he deeps his hole.

This guy is so delusional he would make a great case study for a psychologist interested in studying GREED and multiple-personality (deceptions, or disorders?? lmfao). Grin

Keep doubling-down , doubling down .. You only look more and more ridiculous to the majority of the forum. Please do us all a favor and TRULY leave, already? Roll Eyes

Finally, someone else thinking the same way.

If this doesn't make Quickseller leave, what will?

It will just further anger him. He has no self-control, that's clearly evident as we watch his utter downfall and destruction of trust in real-time.

When you build a structure using Q-Tips and paper towel, its only so much time until it falls down all the way down.

And yeah, it's gonna be fun to watch of course. Quite a fun show so far watching Quickseller pathetically try and get his trust back.

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Quote from: Quickseller on September 12, 2015, 09:37:47 PM

Quote from: achow101 on September 12, 2015, 09:35:52 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on September 12, 2015, 09:27:41 PM

Quote from: Vod on September 12, 2015, 09:23:50 PM

The exact words Quickseller used were

"Forced 3 day break from the forum Be back Saturday".

Since he didn't have a forced 3 day ban, that makes Quickseller a proven liar.

"https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12331922"

Is the word "ban" anywhere in that statement? Would there be any other reasons why one might force themselves from taking a break from the forum?

Assuming that you could somehow conclude that the above statement is a lie, you still have the issue of proving that I stole money from someone which is what is causing you to be liable for libel.

You created an account called QS banned (Archive]. The banned part of that implies that you were banned at the time of the creation of the account although it was not specified for how long. Furthermore, you created this post https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/quickseller-escrowing-for-himself-1171059 which proves that you owned that account.

Implies is the key word in that sentence my friend. You also archived the incorrect link LMAO

Even though it is implied, the implied part can still be used against you (and will be used against you)

I did archive the right link, the link to your profile, in case somehow you convince one of the admins to actually delete the account. No need to archive your post, ndnhc quoted it already. And just for good measure, I will quote it here:

Quote from: ?? on ??

I believe I am allowed to post in scam accusations threads that have to do with me.

Tspacepilot, you are a scammer and a troll. You are an idiot for thinking you can find my unknown alts. You are an asshole and are wrong. I am looking forward to when karma catches up to you.

I can PGP sign this message if necessary. This is the only newbie account of mine that posted on this thread.

Edit:
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