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Quote from: I_Anime on January 09, 2025, 02:55:57 PM

But now the reason is because most people usually lose in gambling that's why they kept saying gambling is scam, because they believed that they can't get rich fast just by gambling, lol like gambling is some kind of fairy tale stuff or charity gambling far from that , gambling is all About been entertained and same time earning some extra bucks.

Well, I really can’t blame them - there are lots of promotions out there where that showcases the possibility of you being able to win millions via gambling and also some sponsored content out there where players earn millions from the little amount they wagered and that is why most people feel like the casino is scamming them when they are unable to reproduce the result of those they saw before entering into gambling.

I’m sure most of us here must have read one or two articles about some random gambler winning jackpot after few bets or some live streamers constantly posting their bets containing 1000x odds but when you go and play that same game you won’t be able to reproduce such result after 100s of bets; that’s just what I think.

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Quote from: Victorybit1 on January 09, 2025, 01:38:21 PM

Considering the fact that you are not forced into it or being promised to get something after making a deposit makes it hundred percent legit, gambling can only become a scam when the casinos or sports book deprives users of their win. Gambling is a thing of choice, no one is forced to do it so you can't really call it a scam, it's something done on freewill. gambling is a 50/50 thing you can either win or lose,this is why you should learn the principle of risk management and how to control the level at which you engage in it so you don't become addicted.

Exactly, if that was the reason users call gambling scam that would be right because the depriving gamblers of their wins ain't fair at all because if they lose you take their money but they win you won't give them their rewards so that's scam .

But now the reason is because most people usually lose in gambling that's why they kept saying gambling is scam, because they believed that they can't get rich fast just by gambling, lol like gambling is some kind of fairy tale stuff or charity gambling far from that , gambling is all About been entertained and same time earning some extra bucks.

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on January 06, 2025, 09:09:38 AM

Gambling games are different, and often those who call gambling fraud will rather blame those who intentionally deceived them. For example, cheaters and card games. But the game itself, if it is played according to the rules, does not carry any deception. In the same way, gambling on the Internet, the one who plays slots, making a big bet, is guaranteed to lose and to justify himself and his short-sightedness, it is easier for him to blame everyone and call it fraud. It is upsetting that people, starting to play, forget about tomorrow, spending everything to the cent, and then, instead of good memories, they blame the whole world, instead of themselves.

Yeah gambling games are actually very different and following what some people say on social media you might just think that all you see is true and if you watch closely you will know that they are all fakes and the trusty is that is not as people don't win but something look to good to be true because we can not keep acting on thing we know that can not come true so let's accept it and play accordingly to our understanding and how we manage our emotions.

And when it comes to card games and many casino games this are games you can not even manipulate so it is usually all deception if some one tells you that they can manipulate it, stuffs like that don't even make sense ot will be better to just, ti stick to playing the way you know how to play, even when you know you might not win but it is better than when you trust others people instincts, I don't believe in trusting other people because they might just want you to pay for cheating and for you to lose.

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Considering the fact that you are not forced into it or being promised to get something after making a deposit makes it hundred percent legit, gambling can only become a scam when the casinos or sports book deprives users of their win. Gambling is a thing of choice, no one is forced to do it so you can't really call it a scam, it's something done on freewill. gambling is a 50/50 thing you can either win or lose,this is why you should learn the principle of risk management and how to control the level at which you engage in it so you don't become addicted.

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Quote from: Smartvirus on January 06, 2025, 02:33:29 PM

Quote from: I_Anime on January 06, 2025, 12:59:20 PM

Exactly and deep down they are to be blamed, you know you are playing games that don't requires any skills but rather luck. You will still go on ahead , going all out with all your hard earn funds , knowing that once your money has been staked is easy you win or lose it and is not like trading that you can save some percentage with stop loss , in gambling you will lose all the money staked if luck ain't on yah side .

People with that sort of mindset shouldn’t be gambling, they’ve got no place with gambling because, they can’t bear the loss that comes with it. It’s just not logical enough for them and once they can’t comprehend, it becomes a scam. Unfortunately for them, that’s just how gambling is! It’s a place where you can win easily and lose as much too. The probability of a loss always seems higher than that of wins but, yet again, you could get real lucky that it seems you’ve got a hack to the game. Once your able to approach it with the mindset of you can lose easily, you would have an easy life with gambling.

Any gambler that do not have the mindset of taking risks is not ready to make financial decisions.
Every successful gamblers are risk takers and we need to understand that fact. This is the main reason why we keep seeing some gambling earning big from betting because they are ready to spare their money and bet on their favorite games.
Proper risk taking is one of the ways we can make money from gambling without going to far. Those that have the capital are the ones that always keep making huge profits because they keep taking risks that could look too obvious to some gamblers.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on January 07, 2025, 07:52:26 AM

exactly, gambling is a game of chance where you can lose, is it a scam? no
are lotteries scams? also no

scams have one simple rule where someone wants to fool you to get your money, on scams the rules aren't open and there's usually an asymmetry where the victim is not 100% sure of what is happening

No, I mean rationally, no matter what and whenever the results in gambling can never be used as a benchmark that you have been cheated by the casino, such as when you lose, because after all, losing is a part of the game, hmm yeah I wonder if when someone wins they will definitely praise the casino and will never accuse the casino of negative claims.

So maybe it can be said that a gambler who assumes that he has been cheated by the casino just because they lose is a loser who only wants to win in gambling but is not ready to accept defeat.

You have said the right thing in your last paragraph that fraud is a scenario where the victim never expected that it would happen to him, but what about losing in gambling? From the start it is clear that gambling is about winning and losing.

yes, losing is part of the game and the key to win over the long term is to be able to avoid the big losses, if you lose small, win small or win big your wins will take care of the amount you lose
if you're up to losing a lot than we can't say the same thing...
and yes gambling is a lot about winning and losing.

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Quote from: I_Anime on January 06, 2025, 03:51:22 PM

Quote from: hedgeh0g on January 06, 2025, 03:19:01 PM

For example, I didn't understand it right away, of course I was cautious about the game, but deep down I thought that I would be the one who would get lucky in the end and I would definitely win. Of course, looking back, it was the naivety of a beginner and I'm a little ashamed that I thought so. Now it's absolutely clear to me that losing is a completely normal event that many players face, the most important thing is how we perceive this loss. If a player cannot understand this after some time, he will simply lose very quickly because of rage and other negative feelings, it will be like a funnel that sucks him to the bottom. I understood only one thing, if I start to lose my temper, then I need to immediately close the game and not recoup, take a break from the game and not even go in the next day, but a few days later. It helps me and I learned to do it with ease, which I am very happy about. I think anyone who understands things like this will never call gambling a scam

As a beginner at first you feel like the main character Cheesy

( like a chosen one or something), that with your gift of luck your case can be different from others, and one funny thing is that most time newbies to endup with win in their first game , and it will endup adding to that mindset of theirs making them to feel special, until they experience their first losses , and the chance of them handling things maturely is usually low most time.

Because is their first loss they will keep putting their luck to the test , inorder to get that they have loss back , but at the end they will regret their actions saying gambling is a scam Cheesy

Indeed, this often happens when newbies win, and I think the bigger the win, the worse the consequences will be for the new player, because his belief in his own exceptionalism will be extremely high. And it will take a lot of lost money to bring him down to earth. Of course, I am not saying that this will happen to all players, there will be those who will be able to calmly manage their winnings and try to control their emotions without unnecessary fuss, but there will be very few of them. I still can't forget my victory in a poker tournament in which there were about 100 players and I won it, although it was my first time playing for money online in a poker room and many years ago.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on January 07, 2025, 07:52:26 AM

exactly, gambling is a game of chance where you can lose, is it a scam? no
are lotteries scams? also no

scams have one simple rule where someone wants to fool you to get your money, on scams the rules aren't open and there's usually an asymmetry where the victim is not 100% sure of what is happening

No, I mean rationally, no matter what and whenever the results in gambling can never be used as a benchmark that you have been cheated by the casino, such as when you lose, because after all, losing is a part of the game, hmm yeah I wonder if when someone wins they will definitely praise the casino and will never accuse the casino of negative claims.

So maybe it can be said that a gambler who assumes that he has been cheated by the casino just because they lose is a loser who only wants to win in gambling but is not ready to accept defeat.

You have said the right thing in your last paragraph that fraud is a scenario where the victim never expected that it would happen to him, but what about losing in gambling? From the start it is clear that gambling is about winning and losing.

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it?

Gambling with your hard earn money is not good or will I say it's not advisable. It has Been said repeatedly that people should gamble with what they can afford to lose, and it should be a spear money not a money mean for other things because using a hard earn money may trigger you to gamble and win untill you lost them all instead of winin.

Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

Gambling is not really a scam as you said it, but a game to try luck. because no one is forced too it. It was only introduce for people to try luck and no making it a priority.

exactly, gambling is a game of chance where you can lose, is it a scam? no
are lotteries scams? also no

scams have one simple rule where someone wants to fool you to get your money, on scams the rules aren't open and there's usually an asymmetry where the victim is not 100% sure of what is happening

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We can't go all blind and say that all are not scam, some do have the negative intentions and they are only running under the platform of being a casino operators, but their main intention was to rid gamblers of their money, while some are there in term of having the long plan of remaining in the business while rendering the most preferable gambling services to the community at large, because they were begin professional in it and understand what it means to do a business.

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Quote from: hedgeh0g on January 06, 2025, 03:19:01 PM

For example, I didn't understand it right away, of course I was cautious about the game, but deep down I thought that I would be the one who would get lucky in the end and I would definitely win. Of course, looking back, it was the naivety of a beginner and I'm a little ashamed that I thought so. Now it's absolutely clear to me that losing is a completely normal event that many players face, the most important thing is how we perceive this loss. If a player cannot understand this after some time, he will simply lose very quickly because of rage and other negative feelings, it will be like a funnel that sucks him to the bottom. I understood only one thing, if I start to lose my temper, then I need to immediately close the game and not recoup, take a break from the game and not even go in the next day, but a few days later. It helps me and I learned to do it with ease, which I am very happy about. I think anyone who understands things like this will never call gambling a scam

As a beginner at first you feel like the main character Cheesy

( like a chosen one or something), that with your gift of luck your case can be different from others, and one funny thing is that most time newbies to endup with win in their first game , and it will endup adding to that mindset of theirs making them to feel special, until they experience their first losses , and the chance of them handling things maturely is usually low most time.

Because is their first loss they will keep putting their luck to the test , inorder to get that they have loss back , but at the end they will regret their actions saying gambling is a scam Cheesy

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Quote from: Smartvirus on January 06, 2025, 02:33:29 PM

Quote from: I_Anime on January 06, 2025, 12:59:20 PM

Exactly and deep down they are to be blamed, you know you are playing games that don't requires any skills but rather luck. You will still go on ahead , going all out with all your hard earn funds , knowing that once your money has been staked is easy you win or lose it and is not like trading that you can save some percentage with stop loss , in gambling you will lose all the money staked if luck ain't on yah side .

People with that sort of mindset shouldn’t be gambling, they’ve got no place with gambling because, they can’t bear the loss that comes with it. It’s just not logical enough for them and once they can’t comprehend, it becomes a scam. Unfortunately for them, that’s just how gambling is! It’s a place where you can win easily and lose as much too. The probability of a loss always seems higher than that of wins but, yet again, you could get real lucky that it seems you’ve got a hack to the game. Once your able to approach it with the mindset of you can lose easily, you would have an easy life with gambling.

For example, I didn't understand it right away, of course I was cautious about the game, but deep down I thought that I would be the one who would get lucky in the end and I would definitely win. Of course, looking back, it was the naivety of a beginner and I'm a little ashamed that I thought so. Now it's absolutely clear to me that losing is a completely normal event that many players face, the most important thing is how we perceive this loss. If a player cannot understand this after some time, he will simply lose very quickly because of rage and other negative feelings, it will be like a funnel that sucks him to the bottom. I understood only one thing, if I start to lose my temper, then I need to immediately close the game and not recoup, take a break from the game and not even go in the next day, but a few days later. It helps me and I learned to do it with ease, which I am very happy about. I think anyone who understands things like this will never call gambling a scam.

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Quote from: I_Anime on January 06, 2025, 12:59:20 PM

Exactly and deep down they are to be blamed, you know you are playing games that don't requires any skills but rather luck. You will still go on ahead , going all out with all your hard earn funds , knowing that once your money has been staked is easy you win or lose it and is not like trading that you can save some percentage with stop loss , in gambling you will lose all the money staked if luck ain't on yah side .

People with that sort of mindset shouldn’t be gambling, they’ve got no place with gambling because, they can’t bear the loss that comes with it. It’s just not logical enough for them and once they can’t comprehend, it becomes a scam. Unfortunately for them, that’s just how gambling is! It’s a place where you can win easily and lose as much too. The probability of a loss always seems higher than that of wins but, yet again, you could get real lucky that it seems you’ve got a hack to the game. Once your able to approach it with the mindset of you can lose easily, you would have an easy life with gambling.

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

Gambling is not a scam, because you already have a clue of what will happen if events go according to as you have predicted and if it doesn't go according to your predictions. Gambling gives you an opportunity to make something out of it, if things go according to your instinct. It's just like putting your money where your mouth is. In gambling you are not forced to gamble it's your choice, but scam activities you are forced or compelled to do things ordinarily you wouldn't have done. Scam activities leaves you with nothing even after fulfilling your own obligations. Gambling gives you an opportunity to recover some of the money you have lost if you try again and guess it correctly on your second, third, or fourth time of trying. But scam activities don't leave you with any opportunity to recover what you have lost, instead it will keep taking more and more from you. In gambling you know the people you are dealing with, as most casinos and gambling platforms are registered entities. But scam activities you will hardly know the real details of the the people scamming you. Gambling is totally different from scam.

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Quote from: Zadicar on January 05, 2025, 01:10:32 PM

Gambling as a scam isnt that relevant because in the first place you are the ones who had decided to make up some deposit towards the site and you arent that forced on doing so.

You get scammed when you do something after being promised of a certain thing but then that promise does not get fulfilled. So it still is very possible that you get scammed under the context of gambling.

For example if you see a promo being advertised a certain way but then it is actually spreading misinformation then you have been scammed. It pretty much applies the same way with casinos which you try and not end up being true to their words. We are still at some part responsible because we were not analytical enough but it is still a scam either way.

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on January 06, 2025, 09:09:38 AM

Gambling games are different, and often those who call gambling fraud will rather blame those who intentionally deceived them. For example, cheaters and card games. But the game itself, if it is played according to the rules, does not carry any deception. In the same way, gambling on the Internet, the one who plays slots, making a big bet, is guaranteed to lose and to justify himself and his short-sightedness, it is easier for him to blame everyone and call it fraud. It is upsetting that people, starting to play, forget about tomorrow, spending everything to the cent, and then, instead of good memories, they blame the whole world, instead of themselves.

Exactly and deep down they are to be blamed, you know you are playing games that don't requires any skills but rather luck. You will still go on ahead , going all out with all your hard earn funds , knowing that once your money has been staked is easy you win or lose it and is not like trading that you can save some percentage with stop loss , in gambling you will lose all the money staked if luck ain't on yah side .

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Quote from: uche6215 on November 23, 2024, 04:48:32 PM

Hi guys let have your view on this questions because only real gamblers will understand what I mean?
Is Gambling with your hard earned money Worth it because I have come to the conclusion that gambling is a scam

I can't be called Gambling a scam. Gambling is the tarp of losing your property. If a gambler is addicted to gambling then he will lose one by one in his wealth and if he is deep in gambling then he will lose his all property and he will go to dust. So one way we can see gambling is a root of a scam or another way some people call it is direct gambling is a scam. But I am totally against them because gambling isn't a scam. It's the root of the scam.

What is a scam is the casino while gambling is not a scam. If you don't research the casino, you may end up with a scam but gambling will continue in many casinos. If people realize that, they will not consider gambling as a scam but it is just to entertain themselves by playing so many gambling games. Yes, gambling is a way to lose your money if you are not careful and that can drain your money until nothing is left. But that is not a scam because you decide to play gambling and you lose control over yourself.

Agreed! Gambling isn't a scam. A tiny percentage of people in this sector are scammers, and a small percentage of people who are victims of this gambling are called casino scams too. I think they do not understand scams or scammers. A scammer uses a platform to commit a scam. First, people should know the background or trustworthiness of the site or casino where they will invest their money.

You wont really be that ending yourself on getting scammed if you are really just that sticking into those known or popular platforms on which we know that its impossible that you cant be able to determine it out directly on which even just a simple good search will really be just that enough for you to tell or find out on which platforms are best and something you can trust. Speaking about scammy sites then we do know that building up a business something like this doesnt come cheap and thats why on the design alone then you can already tell whether it will be that trusted or not. Gambling as a scam isnt that relevant because in the first place you are the ones who had decided to make up some deposit towards the site and you arent that forced on doing so.

There are reputable casinos in this forum and if a new gambler can use some of these casinos, I don't see how he will get scammed. It's only those gamblers that loves trying new casinos for some reasons are the one who might fall as victim to the scam gambling site.

I stick to only two casinos and as long as they are doing fine and I am enjoying their services, I will continue gambling there. You need to be careful with where you put your funds in online.

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Gambling games are different, and often those who call gambling fraud will rather blame those who intentionally deceived them. For example, cheaters and card games. But the game itself, if it is played according to the rules, does not carry any deception. In the same way, gambling on the Internet, the one who plays slots, making a big bet, is guaranteed to lose and to justify himself and his short-sightedness, it is easier for him to blame everyone and call it fraud. It is upsetting that people, starting to play, forget about tomorrow, spending everything to the cent, and then, instead of good memories, they blame the whole world, instead of themselves.

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That is why it is very important for every gambler to first find out the casino they will be playing with the gambling platform, so that at least they know whether
the gambling casino they will use as a gambler is a cheater or not.

This is also the problem with most gamblers who have no idea about the casino they are entering, so the result most of the time is that they are the ones who are put in jeopardy
with their asset balance in their casino account.

True, choosing an online casino is as important as choosing an exchange where you are ready to trade, because you will be depositing your money there and before doing so, of course, you need to study what kind of platform it is and how good their reputation is. The forum presents a large number of casinos, each of them has its own topic where many issues are discussed and often this is enough to protect yourself.

Gambling have a big risk in the game but the risk is even greater if we are wrong in choosing the site where we gamble, many experiences have been told by many members in this forum about how they lost money after making a deposit on gambling sites, even many of them are also stuck with difficulties to withdraw after winning a certain amount of money from the game and it all starts from a rash decision in choosing a site to gamble, in my opinion, it is important for each of us to do thorough research before choosing a gambling site to play on, because as we know that everything related to money of course has the potential for fraud, checking license and regulation, reading user reviews, avoiding offer that are too good to be true, can be one of the steps to prevent us from being trapped in a scam site.

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Quote from: uneng on November 23, 2024, 05:44:37 PM

Gambling isn't a scam as long as the platform informs gamblers about the rules, the chances for each side, while ensuring the outcomes are legit. That means you know chances are against you on long term, but you still wish to play the game, because you consciously decided to take the risks in order to try hitting a big prize.

On the other hand, if the casino is shady and applies tricks on users to foolish them and make money this way, then we could say the gambling they promote and offer is indeed a scam.

Buddy you're right, some people don't understand this thing called gambling , everything about gambling is open, it now left for an individual gambler to make his or her decision, the terms, condition, rules and regulations are very placed in the gambing site for every gambler to see, for me the outcome of any gambling seesion is not determined by either the casino or the gambler itself but rather a matter of unforseen circumstances.

If the op is confused about casino games what about sportbets where everything that happens is live even though we couldn't watch the match other people will definitely do and what happens in that match is what the gambling firm will use in deciding individual bet, so for me gambling is very much clean from being a scam.
Though your second paragraph statement is right too but I doubt if such casinos exist but if they do I strongly believe that they will be caught up very quick because we don't even no who's who in the casino any casino found wanting in this may enter into touble if such is being noticed and complained to the adequate authority, there are regulations in which casinos operate and if they goes contrary against the rules they may face strict sanctions.

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