is KYC data on Gambling sites safe? - page 15.

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And If I must be sincere with my observations, I think the reason why online casinos started requiring kyc verification from its customers is completely due to regulatory requirements, aside authorities making its mandatory process for centralized casinos to request kyc verification from their users, I don't think any gambling casino care much about kyc verifying their customers.

KYC in some accredited casinos should not be a problem but KYC in all casinos doesn't make sense to me. However, casino authorities may make KYC system mandatory in case of withdrawal of huge amount of funds. But one thing is that KYC system is very important to stop fraud in casinos and making it mandatory will reduce fraud to a great extent.

I should be that KYC has a very good function if used correctly, considering as a strategic step to avoid fraud or money laundering.
What if there are casinos that are not accredited and they take advantage of the KYC obligation as a dangerous data theft scheme. So my opinion is important to guarantee from the casino that our data can be safe in the data base of their casino service user in other words the casino that requires KYC at the time of withdrawal or whatever, they must be built on the legal basis of operations, where they are developed as Gambling service providers or more TAPT Casino Headquarters.

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Quote from: CryptoGamblingSites on June 05, 2023, 10:01:15 PM

Quote from: Casdinyard on June 05, 2023, 04:47:16 PM

For the most part you have a pretty clear picture of what every company does with your information. They sell it to advertising agencies to provide you with targeted ads to make you buy their stuff. It's all just a matter of who's going to take care of your information, and provide you with the targeted ads that you would be able to tolerate. That's why my money's on reliable companies and sites, at the very least you know for sure they're going to take care of your information, and most of them have a "Do not Sell my Data" clause on the privacy statement that you can take them to court with should you find out that they violated such guidelines. Basically you have legal powers over the casino and the information they collect from you when it's a reputable site. You wouldn't really have this amount of certainty on some other gambling site which sets them so far apart.

The gambling sites never tell customers when an employee steals player data and sells it, for more than they'd pay that employee in a year, happens all the time though

If it isn't a former employee selling it, you still have to worry about the specific sites security of your data, when many of us are from the "verify, don't trust" school of thought

That is really a problem if those employees have access to that confidential data. I think not all employees have access to it, and it is also forbidden for sure that only those high-ranking employees have access to it, but again, we really don't know what is running through their minds, and that is also possible, but I think most of what I've noticed is that they are not secured, like they are getting hacked, and your data would be sold for sure. But no matter what, KYC is already on our doorstep, so to continue playing, we need to do KYC so that we won't get any problems along the way.

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Quote from: maydna on June 04, 2023, 05:57:08 AM

I don't think this has stopped newer casinos that aren't as strict from being able to get new users moving away from casinos that have overly strict KYC regulations.

Afaik, New casino with license is stricter in application of KYC compared to the old reputable casino since they want to fully compliant in the law because they are new and scared on the probable impact on their business.

In today's era, casinos that enforce KYC are a natural thing because indeed it is the policy of the license used and also to avoid criminal acts such as money laundering because money laundering can affect the casino's existence.
If a casino becomes a place where money laundering is carried out, then indirectly the casino is also at risk of being dragged into legal problems for money laundering.
After all, giving KYC to a trusted and reputable casino is nothing to be afraid of.

Also keep in mind that here there are many casinos that enforce KYC and non KYC so gamblers don't need to worry about it because they only have to choose which casino to use.

Even though big and popular casinos ask for KYC before making a deposit or before carrying out gambling activities there will be no guarantee that our data is safe.
Someone will think like this so choose a casino that does not require KYC in any activity.

It's true that even though casinos are big and popular they don't guarantee that the data provided by gamblers can be safe, but at least we can have more confidence in some of these casinos because they have become big and popular casinos.
After all, I'm sure big casinos always try their best to maintain the trust of gamblers and prioritize their reputation so that gamblers who play there don't experience disappointment.

Whether you want to play at a non KYC casino or a casino with KYC is your choice and every gambler has their own choice.
I myself prefer casinos that use KYC as long as they are reputable and trusted.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on June 05, 2023, 04:47:16 PM

For the most part you have a pretty clear picture of what every company does with your information. They sell it to advertising agencies to provide you with targeted ads to make you buy their stuff. It's all just a matter of who's going to take care of your information, and provide you with the targeted ads that you would be able to tolerate. That's why my money's on reliable companies and sites, at the very least you know for sure they're going to take care of your information, and most of them have a "Do not Sell my Data" clause on the privacy statement that you can take them to court with should you find out that they violated such guidelines. Basically you have legal powers over the casino and the information they collect from you when it's a reputable site. You wouldn't really have this amount of certainty on some other gambling site which sets them so far apart.

The gambling sites never tell customers when an employee steals player data and sells it, for more than they'd pay that employee in a year, happens all the time though

If it isn't a former employee selling it, you still have to worry about the specific sites security of your data, when many of us are from the "verify, don't trust" school of thought

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These are the top 5 casinos that does not required KYC according to the link below .

Top 5 Crypto Casinos with No KYC

Lucky Block– The Top Crypto Casino 2023 With No KYC Procedure.
BC.Game – A Fantastic & Trustworthy Alternative.
Metaspins – All the Top Cryptocurrencies for Deposits & Withdrawals.
Wild.io – A Fun-Loving Casino Adventure for Crypto Fans.
VAVE – All the Most-Modern Crypto Features in 2023.

Quote from: https://www.luckyblock.com/en/terms

9.1. To prevent fraud, money laundering and underage gambling, it is important that we verify Players’ identities.

Quote from: https://bc.game/help/terms-service

BC.GAME reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. BC.GAME reserves the right to restrict service and payment until identity is sufficiently determined.

Quote from: https://metaspins.com/info/terms-and-conditions

We may use a recognised third party provider to undertake these checks on our behalf or we may get in touch with you directly to provide us KYC documentation.

Quote from: https://wild.io/terms

13.1. Wild.io reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. Wild.io reserves the right to restrict the Service, payment, or withdrawal until identity is sufficiently determined, or for any other reason in Wild io's sole discretion. Failure or denial to pass the identity check will result in confiscation of winnings and refund of the last deposit.

Quote from: https://vave.com/information/terms-and-conditions

Verification criteria for the identity document must include: name, photograph, date of birth, citizenship.

This is why it's important to crosscheck what information you found in internet or someone article with the reality, the article is misleading for giving a list of no KYC casino, while the reality all of them are required to verify your account.

Thank you for quoting those clarity mate and indeed , they may not ask KYC from the beginning but sooner it will be implemented as the TOS says it all .

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Make sure every gambler check the terms first by CTRL + F and type "verification", "verify", "identity", "personal" or "KYC". If you found the casino state they will ask KYC, then leave it.

Wow , just now that I hear this , thank you so much so it will be easier to check their terms and find what indicate about KYC.

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This has been talked about and asked before many times. As long as the site is legit, there is nothing to worry about. You are giving the same personal information on social media where it can be viewed by a lot of people depending on your privacy status. While in gambling sites, only the owner or the team handling and storing the information sees it, so why worry? That means, you are more vulnerable on social media but don't seem bothered. That's kinda ironic and funny to me. That doesn't make sense.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on June 05, 2023, 10:36:50 AM

Actually, not all crypto gambling asks for kyc, that's why we should always know the risk involved in every game we enter. If there are casinos that ask for kyc online, it's for you and the person who manages the casino. platform too.

And usually, these who have kyc demands are regulated gambling that if they do not do this to their players on their platform, the government can close their online casino. If this casino is legitimate I think it is still safe in my opinion.

And that should also be on your account as a gambler in properly investigate the casino if they are legit and they have permits to operate from the government, if they are established casino for sure they will not do any harm to ruin the business, personally it will be okay to submit your private information / KYC to continue playing smoothly.

Depends on how you believe and trust the site since it's all about personal information that in stake.

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KYC is of course safe, there is no problem in giving KYC to trusted sites but submitting your personal information to untrusted temporary sites leaves you with nothing to do if you get caught in a cybercrime. In this case you must check trusted sites before submitting KYC.

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Quote from: Desmong on June 05, 2023, 04:15:39 PM

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It is not safe, few motnhs ago incident has been happened and Rolbit Casino has send user VIP level-based bonuses to verified emails of Stake users. It is matter of glitch to get caught on such attack or agreement since some casinos may sell KYC userbase data to third-parties for making more money. Stake has never accepted their fault and the management has deleted related forum posts on the forum. That is why I don't trust online platforms when it is about my personal info.

it is not good for us to give our information to gambling companies because they might decided to sell the information and even though they don't have that plan, what about if there casino get hacked and the hackers get hold of the data and sell it to their parties and that can use it against to he person.

The information that you are given to all this online gambling does not matter anything then I'm not taking your information to anywhere that is to satisfy the criteria of withdrawing or doing their kyc verification there is nothing difference between your document with you verification and your banking documents does it mean that bank account still your document so even though they said their platforms and other place if you wish then you can continue to partner with that platform within the same verification document that is what I want some of you to understand

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Quote from: milewilda on May 31, 2023, 06:26:33 PM

Quote from: Casdinyard on May 31, 2023, 06:14:42 PM

It’s relatively safe if it’s stored and collected by a trustworthy casino. Otherwise expect your data to be sold to ad agencies for research and targeted ads. And I know how important privacy is to most of us considering how aggressive these agencies are becoming by the day, and with news circulating that the government is spying on us. Anyhow, my point is that there’s really no use protecting our data if we have already sold it to somewhere else unknowingly. Facebook, Twitter, IG, and many other social media sites already did this in the past. So the least we could do for ourselves is just finish KYC so we can get on with our lives and be able to do tasks inside a reputable casino per usual.

Not saying we should just give up, but since this battle is already lost right from the get-go, efforts should be allocated over something else that people still could benefit from.

We dont know on what happens internally on which even if a certain trustable and reliable site, it cant really be still 100% where you would really be confident with those informations been stored up wont be used on other means. Im not saying that they are really doing this but we dont really know because once we had submitted then expect or already anticipate on what are the things that they could possibly do with those informations that had been gathered or accumulated. Some people do say that if they have done nothing, then why they would really be that getting scared of something?
Usually they would really be asking for some personal information whether they had seen something that you had violated their terms or you had able to win up some jackpot or huge profits
on which these platforms do usually this kind of standard asking out for verification which isnt something new.

For the most part you have a pretty clear picture of what every company does with your information. They sell it to advertising agencies to provide you with targeted ads to make you buy their stuff. It's all just a matter of who's going to take care of your information, and provide you with the targeted ads that you would be able to tolerate. That's why my money's on reliable companies and sites, at the very least you know for sure they're going to take care of your information, and most of them have a "Do not Sell my Data" clause on the privacy statement that you can take them to court with should you find out that they violated such guidelines. Basically you have legal powers over the casino and the information they collect from you when it's a reputable site. You wouldn't really have this amount of certainty on some other gambling site which sets them so far apart.

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Do you know that some people does not concentrate to know the rules and regulation of kyc of a particular platform of Casino before making a deposit and the dream the process of the time of the drawing their money it is when they noticed that casino platform or that particular magazzino platform have terms and conditions to make before you withdraw

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It is not safe, few motnhs ago incident has been happened and Rolbit Casino has send user VIP level-based bonuses to verified emails of Stake users. It is matter of glitch to get caught on such attack or agreement since some casinos may sell KYC userbase data to third-parties for making more money. Stake has never accepted their fault and the management has deleted related forum posts on the forum. That is why I don't trust online platforms when it is about my personal info.

it is not good for us to give our information to gambling companies because they might decided to sell the information and even though they don't have that plan, what about if there casino get hacked and the hackers get hold of the data and sell it to their parties and that can use it against to he person.

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In 10 years of playing in the casino, I have not had any difficulties with KYC.
I think it's safe

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Actually, not all crypto gambling asks for kyc, that's why we should always know the risk involved in every game we enter. If there are casinos that ask for kyc online, it's for you and the person who manages the casino. platform too.

And usually, these who have kyc demands are regulated gambling that if they do not do this to their players on their platform, the government can close their online casino. If this casino is legitimate I think it is still safe in my opinion.

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Quote from: Reatim on June 04, 2023, 07:44:41 PM

These are the top 5 casinos that does not required KYC according to the link below .

Top 5 Crypto Casinos with No KYC

Lucky Block– The Top Crypto Casino 2023 With No KYC Procedure.
BC.Game – A Fantastic & Trustworthy Alternative.
Metaspins – All the Top Cryptocurrencies for Deposits & Withdrawals.
Wild.io – A Fun-Loving Casino Adventure for Crypto Fans.
VAVE – All the Most-Modern Crypto Features in 2023.

Quote from: https://www.luckyblock.com/en/terms

9.1. To prevent fraud, money laundering and underage gambling, it is important that we verify Players’ identities.

Quote from: https://bc.game/help/terms-service

BC.GAME reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. BC.GAME reserves the right to restrict service and payment until identity is sufficiently determined.

Quote from: https://metaspins.com/info/terms-and-conditions

We may use a recognised third party provider to undertake these checks on our behalf or we may get in touch with you directly to provide us KYC documentation.

Quote from: https://wild.io/terms

13.1. Wild.io reserves the right, at any time, to ask for any KYC documentation it deems necessary to determine the identity and location of a User. Wild.io reserves the right to restrict the Service, payment, or withdrawal until identity is sufficiently determined, or for any other reason in Wild io's sole discretion. Failure or denial to pass the identity check will result in confiscation of winnings and refund of the last deposit.

Quote from: https://vave.com/information/terms-and-conditions

Verification criteria for the identity document must include: name, photograph, date of birth, citizenship.

This is why it's important to crosscheck what information you found in internet or someone article with the reality, the article is misleading for giving a list of no KYC casino, while the reality all of them are required to verify your account.

Make sure every gambler check the terms first by CTRL + F and type "verification", "verify", "identity", "personal" or "KYC". If you found the casino state they will ask KYC, then leave it.

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Quote from: maydna on June 05, 2023, 09:49:49 AM

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Quote from: maydna on June 04, 2023, 05:57:08 AM

Regulations from the government try to suppress crypto casinos so that crypto users who often play gambling at crypto casinos experience the impact of these government regulations.

I understand why government do that because many money launderers is now using online casino to mix their dirty money. Unlike crypto mixers, Casino needs to apply safety precautions like KYC to fight this criminal and to avoid being seize by the government by allowing launderers to freely use their service to wash their money.

And that's why casinos seem to be tightening their rules about doing KYC for almost all of their members, especially members who use big money to gamble. Those making large withdrawals must also perform KYC before the casino can process their withdrawal request. This is to avoid the possibility of money laundering occurring at their casino because the casino doesn't want to get into trouble later.

Exactly mate, Money launderers is so smart nowadays and some of them are using casino rakeback and cashback to recover there losses to make their mixing looks like legit. It’s very hard for the casino to determine who’s laundering so they ask KYC to all players as self defense in case regulators hits their business.

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Quote from: maydna on June 04, 2023, 05:57:08 AM

I don't think this has stopped newer casinos that aren't as strict from being able to get new users moving away from casinos that have overly strict KYC regulations.

Afaik, New casino with license is stricter in application of KYC compared to the old reputable casino since they want to fully compliant in the law because they are new and scared on the probable impact on their business.

Well, it can happen in a new casino, but crypto gamblers won't like it as they prefer casinos that are less strict when it comes to doing KYC. Perhaps only some gamblers will be willing to do KYC at a new casino, but others will still choose the usual casino to gamble. So a new casino is better off writing additional rules at the casino that says it will verify members who exceed the specified limits. But members who do not exceed the limit will not be asked to do KYC. That would be preferable for crypto gamblers as they will try not to exceed that limit lest they do KYC.

Most of the new gamblers don’t bother anymore on KYC since most of them came from fiat casino that requires KYC as mandatory requirements. Those players that still doesn’t accept KYC are those old players here in the forum that want to try new casino.

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Quote from: Beparanf on June 04, 2023, 06:34:21 AM

Quote from: maydna on June 04, 2023, 05:57:08 AM

Regulations from the government try to suppress crypto casinos so that crypto users who often play gambling at crypto casinos experience the impact of these government regulations.

I understand why government do that because many money launderers is now using online casino to mix their dirty money. Unlike crypto mixers, Casino needs to apply safety precautions like KYC to fight this criminal and to avoid being seize by the government by allowing launderers to freely use their service to wash their money.

And that's why casinos seem to be tightening their rules about doing KYC for almost all of their members, especially members who use big money to gamble. Those making large withdrawals must also perform KYC before the casino can process their withdrawal request. This is to avoid the possibility of money laundering occurring at their casino because the casino doesn't want to get into trouble later.

Quote from: Beparanf on June 04, 2023, 06:34:21 AM

Quote from: maydna on June 04, 2023, 05:57:08 AM

I don't think this has stopped newer casinos that aren't as strict from being able to get new users moving away from casinos that have overly strict KYC regulations.

Afaik, New casino with license is stricter in application of KYC compared to the old reputable casino since they want to fully compliant in the law because they are new and scared on the probable impact on their business.

Well, it can happen in a new casino, but crypto gamblers won't like it as they prefer casinos that are less strict when it comes to doing KYC. Perhaps only some gamblers will be willing to do KYC at a new casino, but others will still choose the usual casino to gamble. So a new casino is better off writing additional rules at the casino that says it will verify members who exceed the specified limits. But members who do not exceed the limit will not be asked to do KYC. That would be preferable for crypto gamblers as they will try not to exceed that limit lest they do KYC.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on June 04, 2023, 08:50:02 AM

If you're worried your KYC can be used for illegal thing, make sure you must not share your KYC in any online places!

Any site regardless it's small or big, trusted or not are promise they will protect your KYC and only share to trusted third party, but how to verify if they're legit? no way. When you submit your KYC on many sites, you don't have any idea which site is lying to you and use it for illegal activity.

It's why just gamble on no KYC casino.

That must be a rule of thumb when it comes to submitting a KYC. If in case we only submit our KYC to one legit website and later on we are now receiving a mail, text or call from someone else about doing an illegal act that we never do, we already know who to blame with but I think the occurrence of it might be rare because a legit company won't do anything that will destroy their reputation.

This is not only about the money. It's also possible that their website have been hacked and the KYC have been stolen. There are still crypto gambling sites left that are KYC free. We can always play on them if we are too sensitive when it comes to KYC.

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I don`t have problem with KYC but i think that it would be fair to KYC when the gambler is registering in casino. In the situation when the KYC is asked when the gambler decides to withdraw money he lose time and don`t get the money he win. I feel myself disappointed in such situations.

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Quote from: komisariatku on May 30, 2023, 10:26:37 AM

As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?

Kyc actually has a function to prevent dangerous actions, such as money laundering. In addition, Kyc can also protect customers from account breakers.

KYC has both positive and negative aspects. If gambler wants to do big transactions then KYC is definitely required otherwise it is not possible to control money laundering. Moreover, the government also has obligations. Again KYC can be used for account security. Sometimes if the account is frozen for any reason then the person can get back his account through KYC proof. I personally take KYC positively but a gambler should look at good sites and then decide to do KYC otherwise there is a chance of his KYC information being stolen.

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