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Quote from: Reatim on June 04, 2023, 07:44:41 PM

But for me personally ? still best to play in casino that has KYC but surely trusted and safer to play and 2 of those are

Roobet.com and Duelbits.com https://roobet.com/ , https://duelbits.com/

If I may add? there is Rollbit and trustdice https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cfnp-trustdicewin-1-rated-crypto-casino-signature-campaign-full-member-5399855 that I believe two of the best casino sites ever created and advertised here in our forum.

Have played on those site and yes no doubt they are great in serving gamblers .

and also your KYC is safe in those sites .

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Quote from: komisariatku on May 30, 2023, 10:26:37 AM

As we know, many gambling sites have Kyc requirements when making withdrawals. Some people may not have a problem with this condition, but some people think differently about doing Kyc. Some people refuse to fill in their Kyc data for fear of being misused. That's a natural thing, but is the worry too much?

These are the top 5 casinos that does not required KYC according to the link below .

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We can clearly choose when and where to play mate , but indeed that all your points here are valid and yes the KYC requirements are decided by many sites but at least there are still choose to pay respect to players privacy .

But for me personally ? still best to play in casino that has KYC but surely trusted and safer to play and 2 of those are

Roobet.com and Duelbits.com https://roobet.com/ , https://duelbits.com/

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on June 04, 2023, 05:05:45 PM

And If I must be sincere with my observations, I think the reason why online casinos started requiring kyc verification from its customers is completely due to regulatory requirements, aside authorities making its mandatory process for centralized casinos to request kyc verification from their users, I don't think any gambling casino care much about kyc verifying their customers.

KYC in some accredited casinos should not be a problem but KYC in all casinos doesn't make sense to me. However, casino authorities may make KYC system mandatory in case of withdrawal of huge amount of funds. But one thing is that KYC system is very important to stop fraud in casinos and making it mandatory will reduce fraud to a great extent.

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Quote from: Biscutard on June 04, 2023, 06:31:27 PM

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It is not safe, few motnhs ago incident has been happened and Rolbit Casino has send user VIP level-based bonuses to verified emails of Stake users. It is matter of glitch to get caught on such attack or agreement since some casinos may sell KYC userbase data to third-parties for making more money. Stake has never accepted their fault and the management has deleted related forum posts on the forum. That is why I don't trust online platforms when it is about my personal info.

It might not be safe but when you are only gambling with small amount of money i dont think you will become a target of such fraud? High value target are all those users who gambles large money thus it will catch the attention of the casino and perform a trick to lose your money.
That is very unfortunate it happens to someone. KYC is already flawed right before it was imposed.

The gambling sites do not distinguish between low wagering users or high wagering users when it comes to the KYC. Have you heard that a site ask for KYC if your deposits are high or do not ask for KYC with low deposits?

In fact, most gambling sites will ask for the KYC irrespective of your portfolio with the gambling site. Also if the gambling site decides to misuse your data or sell your data, they will not categorize low or high volume users.

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It is not safe, few motnhs ago incident has been happened and Rolbit Casino has send user VIP level-based bonuses to verified emails of Stake users. It is matter of glitch to get caught on such attack or agreement since some casinos may sell KYC userbase data to third-parties for making more money. Stake has never accepted their fault and the management has deleted related forum posts on the forum. That is why I don't trust online platforms when it is about my personal info.

It might not be safe but when you are only gambling with small amount of money i dont think you will become a target of such fraud? High value target are all those users who gambles large money thus it will catch the attention of the casino and perform a trick to lose your money.
That is very unfortunate it happens to someone. KYC is already flawed right before it was imposed.

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Quote from: macson on June 04, 2023, 04:59:59 PM

fortunately, nowadays there are many gambling sites that don't require KYC, users who don't want their personal data exposed can just play there.

Can you, please, name some of those casinos which do no require kyc? Because as far as I can see, it's exactly the opposit: each day there are less and less of those casinos.
I've even seen some of them ask their customers to verify their identity for different reasons although they claim kyc is not mandatory.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on June 04, 2023, 11:27:54 AM

Are you okay with an online casino asking you for a kyc here in the crypto space? That you will discover in the end that it is not under regulation. Would you also be willing to give your kyc? Because we all know that when you provide data information, it is obvious that they already have a data record about you.

But if a casino is regulated, that's fine with me because a gambling platform just follows the rules in that case. So as a gambler we should know our risk tolerance somehow, right?

Yeah, it's also a factor before submitting your private information, how secure you are with the casino and how would it be possible that they will take the responsibility, if that casino is complying with the regulation and would just like continue doing business the chance that they will secure your information is better compared to the site where they are not liable to any regulation.

I agree with what you are saying, it is a must understand the risk tolerance before taking any actions.

Just like I said earlier, most of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency users are privacy concus and at that we constantly avoid KYC platforms and even though we sometime didn't have choice but to get through with verification we only choose secured sites and we can trust them without data.

But also we sometime fall victims to identity theft without our knowledge but also for a crime committed with stolen documents there is a limit to what the scammer can do with those KYC documents as at some times the documents wouldn't meet the requirements for those verifications as there will be more demands

Well, you are righ though, many who decided to adopt bitcoin and cryptocurrencies today did so because of the privacy it promotes, and coming back to gambling and online casinos, I believe that reason why several gamblers ditched offline casino and focussed on playing only on online casinos is to stop getting public eyes on them when ever they step into an offline casino..

And If I must be sincere with my observations, I think the reason why online casinos started requiring kyc verification from its customers is completely due to regulatory requirements, aside authorities making its mandatory process for centralized casinos to request kyc verification from their users, I don't think any gambling casino care much about kyc verifying their customers.

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Quote from: Wiwo on June 03, 2023, 04:53:46 PM

Dark web has been a host of all the world's dirtiest and deadliest deals, but also the user has to take the extra mile to such the information that is available for sale in the marketplace to see the level of linkage that data have gone through and nothing is stopping their buyers from using those data to commit more crime there exposing the real owner if those data to criminal charges unless their ability to prove that their identity has truly been stolen.

on the dark web you can find anything that is against the law.

Quote from: 2Pizza410000BTC on June 04, 2023, 10:22:15 AM

Know your customer (KYC)
Certainly this I would discover to be a worthless method. Because why I will leave my complete information especially my personal information under others. Can this method guarantee the protection of my personal data?

Moreover, I think it is completely unreasonable to give personal information to gambling sites because who will take my personal information security when a gambling site is confiscated by the government?

actually, there are many big gambling sites that don't want to require their users to do KYC, but the government's rules require it, so many gambling sites can't refuse when the government tightens the rules regarding KYC. fortunately, nowadays there are many gambling sites that don't require KYC, users who don't want their personal data exposed can just play there.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on May 30, 2023, 10:45:48 AM

But with KYC, there are still people laundering money.

Quote from: Oshosondy on May 30, 2023, 10:45:48 AM

But with KYC, there are still online criminals.
But generally speaking, KYC should be avoided if possible. KYC is dangerous for bitcoin and crypto users.

That's like saying with laws and police there are still crimes. Or with doctors there are still diseases. You can't remove money laundering completely, FATFs goal is to make it more difficult.

By all means you should avoid kyc if you can, but if you are dealing with fiat money or stablecoins, at some point it's most likely going to be mandatory. And by the look of things, it's going to be eventually mandatory for bitcoin as well as it's now taken more seriously by officials.

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 04, 2023, 02:44:27 PM

Quote from: bettercrypto on June 04, 2023, 11:27:54 AM

Are you okay with an online casino asking you for a kyc here in the crypto space? That you will discover in the end that it is not under regulation. Would you also be willing to give your kyc? Because we all know that when you provide data information, it is obvious that they already have a data record about you.

But if a casino is regulated, that's fine with me because a gambling platform just follows the rules in that case. So as a gambler we should know our risk tolerance somehow, right?

Yeah, it's also a factor before submitting your private information, how secure you are with the casino and how would it be possible that they will take the responsibility, if that casino is complying with the regulation and would just like continue doing business the chance that they will secure your information is better compared to the site where they are not liable to any regulation.

I agree with what you are saying, it is a must understand the risk tolerance before taking any actions.

Just like I said earlier, most of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency users are privacy concus and at that we constantly avoid KYC platforms and even though we sometime didn't have choice but to get through with verification we only choose secured sites and we can trust them without data.

But also we sometime fall victims to identity theft without our knowledge but also for a crime committed with stolen documents there is a limit to what the scammer can do with those KYC documents as at some times the documents wouldn't meet the requirements for those verifications as there will be more demands

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 04, 2023, 02:44:27 PM

Quote from: bettercrypto on June 04, 2023, 11:27:54 AM

Are you okay with an online casino asking you for a kyc here in the crypto space? That you will discover in the end that it is not under regulation. Would you also be willing to give your kyc? Because we all know that when you provide data information, it is obvious that they already have a data record about you.

But if a casino is regulated, that's fine with me because a gambling platform just follows the rules in that case. So as a gambler we should know our risk tolerance somehow, right?

Yeah, it's also a factor before submitting your private information, how secure you are with the casino and how would it be possible that they will take the responsibility, if that casino is complying with the regulation and would just like continue doing business the chance that they will secure your information is better compared to the site where they are not liable to any regulation.

I agree with what you are saying, it is a must understand the risk tolerance before taking any actions.

When we understand that the risk of Leaving our data on a platform that can be leaked for one reason or another , is when we should be careful about which gaming platform we have to trust , in casinos we always take into consideration that when we have significant participation we can have a choice to be a VIP or something like that , I think that's how you can have more options so that you can be more secure, VIP users can have many benefits, but with respect to KYC , I think you should take care not to leave it lightly in any side , but each head is different and they do what best suits them.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on June 04, 2023, 11:27:54 AM

Are you okay with an online casino asking you for a kyc here in the crypto space? That you will discover in the end that it is not under regulation. Would you also be willing to give your kyc? Because we all know that when you provide data information, it is obvious that they already have a data record about you.

But if a casino is regulated, that's fine with me because a gambling platform just follows the rules in that case. So as a gambler we should know our risk tolerance somehow, right?

Yeah, it's also a factor before submitting your private information, how secure you are with the casino and how would it be possible that they will take the responsibility, if that casino is complying with the regulation and would just like continue doing business the chance that they will secure your information is better compared to the site where they are not liable to any regulation.

I agree with what you are saying, it is a must understand the risk tolerance before taking any actions.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on May 30, 2023, 12:19:09 PM

Previously, you should know first that if you upload your data to the internet, it will be vulnerable to being hacked by hackers. So nothing can be 100% secure when we talk about the internet. But if you send documents to a trusted casino with a good reputation, you shouldn't need to worry because the casino will try to protect its customers' data properly. And of course, the casino will increase the security on its site so that hackers cannot break into the site. I have no problem with KYC if it's in the right hands and not using it for illegal things.

A casino could also place the KYC data of their customers offline because there will always be a good hacker that can access any site even if they have a robust security. I think it's also possible for the casino funds to be stored offline. They will only store a few amounts for immediate use. That way the damage will only be small in case a hack happens and the casino can still run properly but they are now going to improve their security again.

Like you, I have no problems of sending my KYC to a reputable casino but I know some are still not confident of doing it. They will choose to abandon their account and the money inside it, only to retain their privacy.

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Quote from: tusandii on June 04, 2023, 08:26:08 AM

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Quote from: maydna on June 04, 2023, 05:57:08 AM

I don't think this has stopped newer casinos that aren't as strict from being able to get new users moving away from casinos that have overly strict KYC regulations.

Afaik, New casino with license is stricter in application of KYC compared to the old reputable casino since they want to fully compliant in the law because they are new and scared on the probable impact on their business.

In today's era, casinos that enforce KYC are a natural thing because indeed it is the policy of the license used and also to avoid criminal acts such as money laundering because money laundering can affect the casino's existence.
If a casino becomes a place where money laundering is carried out, then indirectly the casino is also at risk of being dragged into legal problems for money laundering.
After all, giving KYC to a trusted and reputable casino is nothing to be afraid of.

Also keep in mind that here there are many casinos that enforce KYC and non KYC so gamblers don't need to worry about it because they only have to choose which casino to use.

Even though big and popular casinos ask for KYC before making a deposit or before carrying out gambling activities there will be no guarantee that our data is safe.
Someone will think like this so choose a casino that does not require KYC in any activity.

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Are you okay with an online casino asking you for a kyc here in the crypto space? That you will discover in the end that it is not under regulation. Would you also be willing to give your kyc? Because we all know that when you provide data information, it is obvious that they already have a data record about you.

But if a casino is regulated, that's fine with me because a gambling platform just follows the rules in that case. So as a gambler we should know our risk tolerance somehow, right?

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on June 04, 2023, 08:50:02 AM

If you're worried your KYC can be used for illegal thing, make sure you must not share your KYC in any online places!

Any site regardless it's small or big, trusted or not are promise they will protect your KYC and only share to trusted third party, but how to verify if they're legit? no way. When you submit your KYC on many sites, you don't have any idea which site is lying to you and use it for illegal activity.

It's why just gamble on no KYC casino.

Know your customer (KYC)
Certainly this I would discover to be a worthless method. Because why I will leave my complete information especially my personal information under others. Can this method guarantee the protection of my personal data?

Moreover, I think it is completely unreasonable to give personal information to gambling sites because who will take my personal information security when a gambling site is confiscated by the government?

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Quote from: komisariatku on May 30, 2023, 10:26:37 AM

Are you one of those who agree or refuse to fill out kyc on gambling sites? So far, the Kyc that you have filled in on the gambling site is safe? I've never had a problem with the Kyc that I filled out at the gambling site. Have you ever felt cheated from Kyc submitted?

Actually, with the current conditions, saying it is safe or not is something that is difficult when it is in the scope of "online". other party and it could also be a bit dangerous if there is something unexpected.
I'm not going to say every casino that has KYC in it is bad but admittedly in this case I still wanted anonymity so I have the right not to either.
Even though this is also based on our good self, I don't gamble big and only gamble small amounts, so it doesn't matter to me if I don't do KYC in it because this is like a principle for myself personally.
There will definitely be pros and cons about this but again, this is for my entertainment and I don't want things related to my privacy to be disturbed because my goal is also just to play and enjoy games on existing sites.
As long as it is possible not to do KYC then I think there is no problem with that.

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To be honest, I didn't think that our personal data are safe anywhere on the internet and gambling sites are not exception. Personal data is very valuable goods online.
However, KYC is part of regulation and on legit sites is a must so we don't have much choice but to trust that gambling sire we use has taken all necessary measures to protect the date and that it will not misuse it. In general, the whole virtual space is about the trust but also precaution.

do take note that we don't know where our info will end up with. so before you submit any vital info to any site, whether it is gambling site or not, make sure the site is legit for one, and you will really use their services more often. because if you will just use the site one time, then, that's not worth taking a risk for your docs.
much better if you will stick to one reputable casino if you do need to submit kyc. not on every casino you want to play with. as much as possible, lessen the exposure of your personal details online.

Most casino platforms don't ask for KYC as long as you are just playing normally and not requesting any big withdrawals, as soon as you request to cash out something significant, they will surely ask you to verify yourself first so that they are assured that you are not a part of something illegal like money laundering or cheating, etc. And in such situations, we got no choice but to comply with their rules because we can't leave our money there.

As you said, someone should simply stick to one platform and they should choose that platform after doing some research only to confirm that they are reputable and trusted because things will stay normal if the casino doesn't usually have issues with their gamblers.

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If you're worried your KYC can be used for illegal thing, make sure you must not share your KYC in any online places!

Any site regardless it's small or big, trusted or not are promise they will protect your KYC and only share to trusted third party, but how to verify if they're legit? no way. When you submit your KYC on many sites, you don't have any idea which site is lying to you and use it for illegal activity.

It's why just gamble on no KYC casino.

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Quote from: Beparanf on June 04, 2023, 06:34:21 AM

Quote from: maydna on June 04, 2023, 05:57:08 AM

I don't think this has stopped newer casinos that aren't as strict from being able to get new users moving away from casinos that have overly strict KYC regulations.

Afaik, New casino with license is stricter in application of KYC compared to the old reputable casino since they want to fully compliant in the law because they are new and scared on the probable impact on their business.

In today's era, casinos that enforce KYC are a natural thing because indeed it is the policy of the license used and also to avoid criminal acts such as money laundering because money laundering can affect the casino's existence.
If a casino becomes a place where money laundering is carried out, then indirectly the casino is also at risk of being dragged into legal problems for money laundering.
After all, giving KYC to a trusted and reputable casino is nothing to be afraid of.

Also keep in mind that here there are many casinos that enforce KYC and non KYC so gamblers don't need to worry about it because they only have to choose which casino to use.

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