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Topic: Is PrimeDice really (provably)fair? - page 3. (Read 32385 times)

sr. member
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QUIFAS EXCHANGE
April 30, 2014, 05:18:00 PM
PD can easily be rigged and this is a fact

If it's rigged only Stunna knows and no one can prove anything
sr. member
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April 07, 2014, 12:28:14 AM


50 = 0.00050000
100
200
400
800
1600
3200
6400
12800
25600
51200
102400
204800
409600
819200
1638400
3276800
6553600
13107200
26214400

=20 x losse

52428750 + 000 = 524.28750000

600 btc need for bet 0.00050000 and no losse

and that is the risk of martingale.
legendary
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The Concierge of Crypto
April 06, 2014, 11:04:46 PM
And if any of the "dices" random generators are bad, then you can just flip it and make it good for the player. Just bet the other way and you will have the "dices" on your side.

So instead of losing more than normal, you should be winning more than normal.

Did you read my conclusion ? 

Conclusion:
So you can play dices and you can win, if the dices running on your side. And then you
can win more than normal. (More than a good random generator will generate) But if the dices are not
on your side, then you can also loose more than normal.


I did around 4000 bet i think... for me enough

Sorry for the really late reply, but my point still stands. Just bet the other way. Then instead of losing more than normal, you would win more than normal.

The dices is never on anyones side, but you just have to pick the side the dices are on. How? I don't know, if I did, I would be winning all the time huh.

My answer would be the same towards your conclusion. As long as your conclusion says the site is not fair, or the dices are on the other side, one simply has to go to that other side.

If the dices are fair, or close to 50%, then it does not matter which side you are on, you will win half the time and lose half the time.
sr. member
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Play Poker Games at Bitoker.com
April 06, 2014, 05:05:26 PM


50 = 0.00050000
100
200
400
800
1600
3200
6400
12800
25600
51200
102400
204800
409600
819200
1638400
3276800
6553600
13107200
26214400

=20 x losse

52428750 + 000 = 524.28750000

600 btc need for bet 0.00050000 and no losse
sr. member
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Merit: 250
April 06, 2014, 04:22:47 PM
I deposited 0.02 BTC and immediately failed - lost 5 times 0.001-0.002-0.004-0.008-0.005 !!
Then I deposited 0.02 BTC again and lost 0.001-0.002-0.004-0.008 again!! But I doubled remaining 0.005 BTC and managed slowly to go to 0.044 BTC, after what withdrew)
sr. member
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Play Poker Games at Bitoker.com
April 06, 2014, 04:06:31 PM
 :|



gfys primedice

there was a 0.0069% chance of that happening.  (0.604)^19 = 0.000069  damn..

It is not completely planned
I have 3 different Agant consecutive wins after increasing inventory and more and has it happened
sr. member
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April 06, 2014, 02:21:17 PM
 :|



gfys primedice

there was a 0.0069% chance of that happening.  (0.604)^19 = 0.000069  damn..
sr. member
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Play Poker Games at Bitoker.com
April 06, 2014, 01:55:37 PM
 agin :|

sr. member
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Play Poker Games at Bitoker.com
April 06, 2014, 01:14:57 PM
  :|



gfys primedice
sr. member
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January 23, 2014, 01:23:59 PM
some time when you are playing too much you have to face streak like this I also have same problem on many sites and never think about fair policy of the site its luck  Wink
full member
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January 23, 2014, 11:10:33 AM
Not sure what the issue is...I've had loss streaks of 14, 15, 16 even.  It's just math, you can check around the web and find that it's possible/probable given enough rolls.
sr. member
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January 23, 2014, 07:50:18 AM
flip the coin 20000 times and come back.
12,14,22,25 is normal with 49.5%

Spin your doge 20000 times and come back..

According to your screenshots, you've made over 378 million bets.
With that many bets, losing 14 in a row at some point isn't surprising.


Nope, that's just the Bet ID.

He made 38,317 bets though before busting which makes this highly likely.

@Airflame: I'm sorry you lost your .22 coins but such is the risk of gambling and when you are making that many rolls the likelihood of that sort of bust is quite substantial. Feel free to direct any and all blame at me regardless of the math.




sounds fair if thet guy bet that much on the site, possible chances to happen are around those odds.  I read it some where that we bet so fast that we dont realize how many bets we put in, that we will bust before we will ever know it. Thats how fast the betting system works.  So dude if you had bet that much is possible to get a loss streak of 12.

legendary
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Primedice.com, Stake.com
January 22, 2014, 10:37:11 PM
flip the coin 20000 times and come back.
12,14,22,25 is normal with 49.5%

Spin your doge 20000 times and come back..

According to your screenshots, you've made over 378 million bets.
With that many bets, losing 14 in a row at some point isn't surprising.


Nope, that's just the Bet ID.

He made 38,317 bets though before busting which makes this highly likely.

@Airflame: I'm sorry you lost your .22 coins but such is the risk of gambling and when you are making that many rolls the likelihood of that sort of bust is quite substantial. Feel free to direct any and all blame at me regardless of the math.
donator
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Poor impulse control.
January 20, 2014, 08:04:06 AM
flip the coin 20000 times and come back.
12,14,22,25 is normal with 49.5%

Spin your doge 20000 times and come back..

According to your screenshots, you've made over 378 million bets.
With that many bets, losing 14 in a row at some point isn't surprising.


No, that's the total number of bets at the site. Your point stands though.
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
January 20, 2014, 07:24:58 AM
flip the coin 20000 times and come back.
12,14,22,25 is normal with 49.5%

Spin your doge 20000 times and come back..

According to your screenshots, you've made over 378 million bets.
With that many bets, losing 14 in a row at some point isn't surprising.
b!z
legendary
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Merit: 1010
January 20, 2014, 07:22:30 AM
Ok this game is so scam i had 12 and then 14 looses same day in a row ! If You flip the coin you will have more chance to win than playing this shitty game. If i have no luck then I should die a long time ago on sidewalk crushed by the plane falling from the sky... or driving a car on highway and smashed by the train that have derailed and moved to the highway.

Proof picturer nr1:
http://i42.tinypic.com/24mvxv5.jpg

Proof picturer nr2:
http://i41.tinypic.com/j8i6pf.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variance
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
January 20, 2014, 07:20:18 AM
If You flip the coin you will have more chance to win than playing this shitty game.

Yes, you will, because this game has a house edge.
That shouldn't be a surprise.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 500
January 18, 2014, 09:11:53 AM
flip the coin 20000 times and come back.
12,14,22,25 is normal with 49.5%

Spin your doge 20000 times and come back..
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 500
January 18, 2014, 08:51:37 AM
Ok this game is so scam i had 12 and then 14 looses same day in a row ! If You flip the coin you will have more chance to win than playing this shitty game. If i have no luck then I should die a long time ago on sidewalk crushed by the plane falling from the sky... or driving a car on highway and smashed by the train that have derailed and moved to the highway.

Proof picturer nr1:


Proof picturer nr2:


Show picture with 20 loses in a row at 90%, then speak Smiley

Please... flip the coin in the air 12-14 times and check if You get 12-14 times tails
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 500
January 18, 2014, 08:32:42 AM
Ok this game is so scam i had 12 and then 14 looses same day in a row ! If You flip the coin you will have more chance to win than playing this shitty game. If i have no luck then I should die a long time ago on sidewalk crushed by the plane falling from the sky... or driving a car on highway and smashed by the train that have derailed and moved to the highway.

Proof picturer nr1:



Proof picturer nr2:
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