Topic: Is PrimeDice really (provably)fair? - page 8. (Read 32451 times)

If you get scammed by someone or someone tried to scam you, you are free to use trust ratings.
I have done same. I played game, saw this thread and felt like scammed, I have given ratings to stunna because my money went to his site. I have posted accusation that time and also posted scam report now.

Now if you have some kind of personal problem like Zaih and vlees and want to abuse trust system (like hackforums neg repping kids), feel free to give me negative trust ratings and i will do the same thing.

I'm stopping this derailed thread, flame wars are bad

so what does your neg rep on Stunna mean?

Your -rep shows you don't have guts and backbone.

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=probability+of+14+heads+in+36+coin+flips
Unluckier, but still a 12% (1 in 8 ) chance of happening.

Edit: Or are you saying 2/8 to mean 2 wins out of 10, rather than 2 wins out of 8?
In that case: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=probability+of+14+heads+in+50+coin+flips
Yup, your luck really sucked for that run.
But there is no run of bad luck that cannot happen, even with a provably fair system.

There were total 50 rolls in last screenshots, (10 in each screenshot)
Results:
win/lose
2/8
3/7
3/7
4/6
2/8

You just don't seem to understand basic probability.
In your last set of screenshots, you had 28 rolls, and won 12 times.
The probability of that happening can be calculated by an independent site, you don't have to trust anyone here:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=probability+of+12+heads+in+28+coin+flips
There is a 11.33% chance of getting exactly 12 wins, and a 28.58% chance of getting 12 or fewer wins in 28 rolls.
It just isn't that unlikely, it really isn't.
You would expect it to happen more than 1 in 4 times.

Proving the point of my -rep to him: Ignorance.

You both are on my ignore list now.

As pointed out before: if a site would be scamming it's very easy to find out. So if you say the chance of >50 is WAY higher, then bet on there and have fun with your +EV.

Also as Zaih pointed out: your screenshots show 4 more losses than wins, which is completely acceptable.

Do you understand cryptography?? HE IS UNABLE TO MANIPULATE THE ROLLS.

You are implying that the rolls are weighted to rolling over 50, THEN INVERSE THE ROLLS.

No I'm not ignorant, you are trying too hard to prove him right.

Inversing a roll doesn't proves that his site is not scamming people who are playing at <50

Kinda serves you right for being the 'boy who cried scam'

Simply inverse the roll then? God you're ignorant.

Don't show me stats see screenshots and tell me why there are very low chances of winning at <50.
Also I was not doing argue. your guy Zaih keept abusing me.

I do not care even if you are on default trust list. People like you have no fucking value in my eyes or the people who trust me. Believe me your feedback means shit to me and it just proves that you both are doing scam together here through primedice.

Alright first off, we'll be updating our provably fair to something very similar to just-dice as long as dooglus doesn't mind. We've been planning to regardless. I will update when this is implemented.

I'm disappointed that this has dragged out this far and the level of doubt EMS/KOS have over this.


Stats on EMS, I don't really think you're worth arguing with. Someone much wiser than myself once told me not to argue with fools because when you do, nobody will know who the fool is. I'd prefer to let the numbers do the talking.

These stats belong to EMS, paints a bit of a different picture.




Another random sample

Last 500k rolls on PD


Kingofsports stats


If anyone wants to check this data themselves our dev can arrange to post all bets. Or you can type u:userid#  in the chat to generate a stat popup. I have absolutely nothing to hide and will provide more stats if desired.

This all goes without saying that I've reached out to ems, verified his roll for him and he is unhappy. At the end of the day he's convinced that I'm an evil person bent on scamming him for $50.

Kingofsports continues to miss on his points, he keeps pointing towards the increasing bank. Primedice's bankroll includes investments from four people in total, as each of us continue to purchase bitcoins it increases. I've also sent KoS a Pm further rebutting his point which I deemed was not appropriate to share here.


When people lose they always want someone or something to blame and unfortunately this is what we are witnessing here. I have no objection to improving provably fair and have been planning to after Dabs/Zaih sent me some Pm's concerning it.


As far as I'm concerned this argument never even began. I do take some fault in this situation as I should have been more pro-active with making this change sooner, it was never a priority to me until now. I hope I've made my point, on that note it is terribly late and I need to get some rest, will be back tomorrow.

And I just realized I'm on the default trust list. Well, that's a surprise.

Scam report
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=282822.new#new

@Zaih your fake trust rating on me shows how much stupid and immature you are.



I told you several times it's none of your fucking business, don't put your ass between me and stunna.

You fucking prick how about you fuck off from here or see all screenshot and admit that primedice is a scam.

I am going to make a scam report on primedice now.

enough is enough.