Topic: Is PrimeDice really (provably)fair? - page 9. (Read 32385 times)

You fucking prick how about you fuck off from here or see all screenshot and admit that primedice is a scam.

I am going to make a scam report on primedice now.

enough is enough.

4 more losses than wins. You have no idea of math. The chance of that happening is not rare at all.

No vlees, he purchased more BTC BEFORE PD2. Since PD2 the site has seen a profit of 374 BTC over a period of 7000 BTC wagered. This is 5.3%.

Also to Stunna personally,

This anger I have towards isn't over my coins lost, hell if that was the case I'd be pissed off wanting to beat the hell out of Dooglus and Just-Dice having lost over 40 BTC to Just-Dice. You want to know what makes me mad and has me this angered? A con man, a really good one. He uses his faucet, trivia and nice attitude to basically make people think theres no way such a man could be deceiving us and rigging our rolls. But to me its 100% what is happening. AND I HATE SCAMMERS / CON MEN. WITH A BURNING PASSION. So yes thats why I'm quite mad, feel free to comment and tell the world how I lost about 10 coins cause I truly don't care. What I do care about is at least not holding back because of your niceness or whatever.
You can call this rude all you want, but I see right thru you and your deceiving practices.

I am done with his bullshit, I have given enough proof and he is a scammer in my eyes.

His site is rigged and there are very low chance of winning at <50 (even at 50%)

He already said how the big increase of the bankroll came. Of course that is impossible for us to verify if it's the truth.

My old PD account which had 1000+ rolls, was 70-75% luck. Tell me thats realistic? Its not. Why won't Stunna change it to doog's and scrat's system, oh hm wonder why...so many accusations ONLY against primedice, no other dice site. Hm...should I change it since I'm an honest guy to make my customers 100% sure I am not cheating them, yeah it would be smart to do this.

What Stunna does:
"Your just mad you lost some bitcoins in a short period of time to my site. You got unlucky. Better luck next time."
Doesn't mention ANYTHING of why he/she won't change the client, why its not just one person complaining ITS MANY and ALMOST everyone says yeah primedice the rolls are harsh there.


But oh no, as a casino owner who has seemingly been all nice to everyone, no one could believe he, the nice man who gives out .0001 BTC to everyone, would be cheating us!

Its a complete act.

What an honest casino owner would do:
Change to the system that has no way of being accused of being not 100% provably fair. This would completely destroy all allegations and make those who accused you even feel bad for you possibly!

Has Stunna does this? Heck no. Not even a mention of it. Continue with the free .0001 BTC while I make roughly 3-5% of all your bets! And for those betting large, I'll get you quick enough  


Also, for those who have doubts, honest to god, look at the high rollers tab on PD2. ALMOST ALWAYS the "luck" favors the house. Right now I'm seeing about 65% of the 49.5% losing on that tab right now. Hmmm no surprise there. Check it often and record it. You'll see the real "luck" the site has.

When PD2 opened there had been 87000 BTC wagered so far. The site's bankroll was 1800 BTC. Since then there has been 7,000 BTC wagered (now sitting at a total of 94000 BTC wagered), and the current bankroll of the site is 2174. Equaling a 374 BTC profit in 7,000 BTC wagered for a mere house earnings of over 5.3% of bets so far! Hmmm but wait shouldn't this be close to 1%?! Yup, it should be.

So yeah I'm done my rant. Continue on though, and lose your bitcoins faster then any other site. But don't worry, he'll still put on that charming attitude and give out free bitcents with trivia and his faucet.

Sorry but I'm not falling for it.

Results:
2/8
3/7
3/7
4/6
2/8

With Bet id:






Last bet is 1st on every second image.
Feel free to verify them, i did not changed client seed nor anything else.


Now if anyone comes and says It's Provably Fair. I have one word for them which is " Fuck you"

Ask stunna to provide all my bet's history and post here all these bets.

Those screenshots prove nothing. Possibly you had 10 wins in a row before that, so these selective insights are not proving your point and only make you look ridiculous.

EDIT: Also I see that the clientseed now autochanges with a nonce at the end.

No you gotta stop sucking stunna's dick

Current: http://gyazo.com/f71fe9cced3bf9757b7dbb5e65d0319c 2/8
continued
http://gyazo.com/03d0e1b018001b8e7784564b0af2ae9e

You've gotta be taking the piss..

Dude listen his site is not fucking fair, there are more chances of lossing even at 50%. I have tested it many many times.
Results:

1/6
4/6
3/7
1/9

1. 1/6
2. 4/6
3. 3/7
4. 1/9

Also someone (maybe escrow.ms) said: I lost everything on 93%.

Yeah if you bet all your money on 93% there is a 7% chance you lose it all. If it would be a sure win, it would not be called 93% but 100%.

Sigh. Give it a rest. I can assure you Stunna did not go this far out of his way to scam you 0.5 Bitcoins. You got unlucky & you chose to not participate in the provably fair aspect of the game. You could have also chose to roll over or under which would have completely changed it.

Because I'm not a pro gambler and not everyone does that.
I thought it's a good site and i can trust it.

On top of that you have to click on button to see server/client seed, new players don't check that.

I think he failed. Period.

3 things:

1. Daily secret is fixed for the entire day. He doesn't know when you are going to make your bet. Can not be manipulated.
2. Server seed is shown to you right before the roll. You can change it by betting zero or nothing.
3. Client seed can be changed, whether or not you do, the fact that you can makes it fair.

The odds of a website being unfair, after all 3 factors mentioned above are combined depends on the hash function, which in this case is SHA-512, therefore, the chance of the website manipulating the result is so low, you will get hit by lightning 10 times in 10 seconds, or win the real life lottery 10 days in a row, before you get an unfair game.

Brute-force attacks against 256-bit keys will be infeasible until computers are built from something other than matter and occupy something other than space.

Even if you use all the dollars in the World (including the dollars which do not exist, such as accumulated debts) and fry the whole planet in the process, you can barely do 1/1000th of an exhaustive key search on 128-bit keys. So this will not happen. And a 256-bit key search is about 340 billions of billions of billions of billions times harder than a 128-bit key search, so don't even think about it.

How many bits are we talking about again? 512.

Here's a picture for you, although it's about bitcoin, but the concept is the same.

Why not?...

I did not changed anything when I played that game.

You changed the client seed, how isn't it fair?