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If you're young and haven't inherited a property from your ancestors, chances are that you're forced to rent. Personally, I've been renting for over 6 years and have been living with my girlfriend for the last 4, sharing rent and utilities. Overall, we've both spent over €25,000 together, and after spending all this money, you're practically left with nothing and may be subject to looking for a new house at any moment.

The average rent for a one-bedroom apartment is between €300 and €400 at best; thus, I was thinking that taking a loan is as costly as paying rent per month, but after 15-20 years, you end up with a house. My main concerns are the following: First, if you're in a long-term relationship like myself, you can never be 100% sure that you'll be with that person in 20 or 30 years from now, which might prevent you from opting for a loan. Secondly, you need to be certain that the location or city of the property to be bought is convenient for future job offers and so on. Thirdly, because a loan is a many-year commitment, there's no guarantee that you'll be able to afford the monthly payment 15 years from now.

On top of that, finding the ideal house as a renter is almost impossible; there's a lack of housing, and rents are extremely expensive and unreasonable at the same time. We had a difficult time finding a house recently, and it's far from ideal. There is now a new government-funded loan program that is about to start, funding up to 75% of the loan interest-free while the rest is funded by private banks and is subject to a relatively low interest rate. This led me to think about taking a loan and purchasing an average two-bedroom apartment, but I have the concerns that I voiced earlier.
Sometimes you might want to stay in that not-so-ideal home until you have been able to build up your finance to fund your own house. I know of a person that worked at a Bank and had a good paycheck but was staying in a one-room apartment and some of us thought he was not willing to spend money for himself but we later realize he was just staying there because he was building his own House which he currently stays, in fact, two of my friends actually lived this scenario.
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Renting is the best solution for workers from villages to cities, because they don't have enough money to buy it, and in my country to have a standard house, which the government provides through private companies, must have standard criteria, such as their salary in a city company , for $450 and must also be a permanent employee of the company. In addition, renting is lighter and with less financial responsibility and maintenance costs, as this is usually the responsibility of the landlord.

Renting, in my opinion cannot be said to be the best solution for workers that live in the rural areas and come over to the city for work as some would find it more affordable and cheaper to commute from their homes in the rural areas to work in the city. A lot of people do this instead of going through the hassle of renting a place in the city that the rent alone would probably eat deep into your little income.

Also, I don’t think renting is as light on the tenant as you make it out to be. The landlord obviously has some obligations to keep the house convenient for living so does the tenant is responsible to keep the house as it was met. Also, the light, water bills are on you as the landlord would obviously not pay for the utilities of a tenant.
Renting isn’t the best solution as I think there is actually no best solution. People are just inclined to do whatever works for them.
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It depends on the user and how he manages the finance. When it comes to business location I find it to be waste of money based on a real experience that happened days back with my friend. He started his pharmaceutical business three years back on a rented location. Slowly things were on the positive side and in the early days of moving to next level. By now the property owner have requested to move as the agreement needs to be renewed every 11 months. Based on the agreement now third renewal period got over and owner have given three months time. Within that my friend needs to find new location and once again start his business. This will surely be problem and affect the growth of businesses.
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If you're young and haven't inherited a property from your ancestors, chances are that you're forced to rent. Personally, I've been renting for over 6 years and have been living with my girlfriend for the last 4, sharing rent and utilities. Overall, we've both spent over €25,000 together, and after spending all this money, you're practically left with nothing and may be subject to looking for a new house at any moment.

The average rent for a one-bedroom apartment is between €300 and €400 at best; thus, I was thinking that taking a loan is as costly as paying rent per month, but after 15-20 years, you end up with a house. My main concerns are the following: First, if you're in a long-term relationship like myself, you can never be 100% sure that you'll be with that person in 20 or 30 years from now, which might prevent you from opting for a loan. Secondly, you need to be certain that the location or city of the property to be bought is convenient for future job offers and so on. Thirdly, because a loan is a many-year commitment, there's no guarantee that you'll be able to afford the monthly payment 15 years from now.

On top of that, finding the ideal house as a renter is almost impossible; there's a lack of housing, and rents are extremely expensive and unreasonable at the same time. We had a difficult time finding a house recently, and it's far from ideal. There is now a new government-funded loan program that is about to start, funding up to 75% of the loan interest-free while the rest is funded by private banks and is subject to a relatively low interest rate. This led me to think about taking a loan and purchasing an average two-bedroom apartment, but I have the concerns that I voiced earlier.
For me renting is waste of money - one should use the money in paying the down payment
have a small place of his own. I seriously believe in life having one's own independent place is so much comfort.
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Renting is the best solution for workers from villages to cities, because they don't have enough money to buy it, and in my country to have a standard house, which the government provides through private companies, must have standard criteria, such as their salary in a city company , for $450 and must also be a permanent employee of the company. In addition, renting is lighter and with less financial responsibility and maintenance costs, as this is usually the responsibility of the landlord.
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I think if you don't want to do that because of the first doubt then don't do it, we will never know that everyone can change, but instead of borrowing to take a house, it's better for you to invest first.
after benefiting from your investment then you buy a house for yourself and also I think this is effective to avoid your first worry earlier.
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It's understandable to have concerns about taking out a loan to purchase a property, especially if you're in a long-term relationship or uncertain about future job opportunities. Researching the housing market and consulting with a financial advisor can also be helpful in making an informed decision.
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It is not necessarily a waste as long as it brings benefits and convenience to your work and life. Nowadays, owning a house is extremely difficult for young people, so renting is a good solution when starting a business because we may have to move a lot to get a better job. That is not wasted.
Renting a house to live in to run a business is not in vain as long as it has a really clear function. But if you are able to buy a house in a very strategic place where that location is always filled with lots of people it is also very good because apart from being able to use it yourself it can also be rented out to other people who need it if someone has an old house that is still suitable for habitation.

So it's true as you said that in terms of housing it will never be redundant even if you don't use it yourself after you buy it, because it can still be used by other people in the form of a rental so I think these two solutions are equally good for young businessmen who are developing business at this moment.

Renting is definitely not a waste of money. For me, it's apart of good planning. Usually people who choose to be independent start in renting a place temporarily then buy their own upon having enough savings. Also, there some people I know who don't prioritize having their own job and maintains renting an apartment because it 's more convenient for them.
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There is now a new government-funded loan program that is about to start, funding up to 75% of the loan interest-free while the rest is funded by private banks and is subject to a relatively low interest rate. This led me to think about taking a loan and purchasing an average two-bedroom apartment, but I have the concerns that I voiced earlier.

You've been with this very girl for over four good years and you guys have been loving together and even share utility bills and you guys are still also in a very serious relationship?
Mehhh I don't know what country you are but if is in my country, then I'm wifying her and I don't care what people have to say. But in the other hand, character also matters alot and from the tune at which I read this post, it seems there is something OP isn't ok with like character or something and since you guys aren't married yet, it isn't late yet to address this issue as truly communication matters alot in every relationship.
On the other hand, I barely would advise someone to take a loan in buying a house because I don't see reasons to do so but since the loan is an interest free one, then you shouldn't hesitate to get one if it can cover the cost of getting the two bedroom apartment you desire.

Good communication to address this particular concern, as you think about it if you are serious with each other and you are renting place to stay that amount of money is almost same with the amount you need to paly when loaning a house.

If you are doubting each other then make sure to have a terms and condition a contract type in case something not good
happen to both of you and you decide to separate from each other , you can sell the property and let someone continue
paying it and share the money in an equal manner.
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It is not necessarily a waste as long as it brings benefits and convenience to your work and life. Nowadays, owning a house is extremely difficult for young people, so renting is a good solution when starting a business because we may have to move a lot to get a better job. That is not wasted.
Renting a house to live in to run a business is not in vain as long as it has a really clear function. But if you are able to buy a house in a very strategic place where that location is always filled with lots of people it is also very good because apart from being able to use it yourself it can also be rented out to other people who need it if someone has an old house that is still suitable for habitation.

So it's true as you said that in terms of housing it will never be redundant even if you don't use it yourself after you buy it, because it can still be used by other people in the form of a rental so I think these two solutions are equally good for young businessmen who are developing business at this moment.
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In fact, renting is an alternative to use when you can't afford a property. there are drawbacks and disadvantages of that. however, renting for primary needs is not included in the waste even though the best thing is to manage money to own your own property if you can afford it.
regarding bank loans, it depends on you, if you can afford it, maybe it can be better than continuing to rent. You might try to sell the apartment you own when you can't afford it anymore. however, the other alternative is that you try to find a cheap property, then collect a little money to buy a new property or maybe an apartment. However, there are many alternatives that you can choose from, it just depends on your circumstances.
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In location I live in Türkiye rents are above minimum wage. And many people (like %60-70 of whole country) lives on minimum wage. So its even more harsh condition here than some western countries. I tend to be libertarian of such issues and believe markets are capable to show it. But in a country with huge inflation even markets are in shock. I think OP has better standards cause nearly %0 rate credit given by bank is cool. I feel like banks should be encouraged to give low rate "rent only" credits to people to support them. Tax breaks and such given in return. (I dislike banks but I can't find any proper solution)
Rent is obviously waste of money. I wish all people could have parents to donate them a flat.
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The thing we have to think about is that renting money will not make us rich, renting money is a wasteful thing that makes us have to immediately expand debt, rent money for things of value and invest so that the interest we have to pay can be covered from the profit when we get a profit from investment.
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There is now a new government-funded loan program that is about to start, funding up to 75% of the loan interest-free while the rest is funded by private banks and is subject to a relatively low interest rate. This led me to think about taking a loan and purchasing an average two-bedroom apartment, but I have the concerns that I voiced earlier.

You've been with this very girl for over four good years and you guys have been loving together and even share utility bills and you guys are still also in a very serious relationship?
Mehhh I don't know what country you are but if is in my country, then I'm wifying her and I don't care what people have to say. But in the other hand, character also matters alot and from the tune at which I read this post, it seems there is something OP isn't ok with like character or something and since you guys aren't married yet, it isn't late yet to address this issue as truly communication matters alot in every relationship.
On the other hand, I barely would advise someone to take a loan in buying a house because I don't see reasons to do so but since the loan is an interest free one, then you shouldn't hesitate to get one if it can cover the cost of getting the two bedroom apartment you desire.
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It is not necessarily a waste as long as it brings benefits and convenience to your work and life. Nowadays, owning a house is extremely difficult for young people, so renting is a good solution when starting a business because we may have to move a lot to get a better job. That is not wasted.

Yes, renting is a way the young entrepreneurs to start their businesses if they do not have enough funds at the start of their business journey. Getting rented houses or sometimes rented machinery may be extremely helpful.

Also, if you have a lot of extra resources, like land, plot, and shop you may put them on rent and can generate passive income. So it is a win-win situation for both of you, the one who receives rent and the one who acquires the object and pays the rent on it.

I believe that if you have extra resources and you do not lend them, then you are missing out on an opportunity to make extra income.
to decide which is better between renting a house or buying a house must be based on what type of work we are entering to make money. if it is a type of permanent job that might last for tens of years and even retirement, such as being a Civil Servant or an employee in the government. then of course buying a house is the best. but for those who have a non-permanent job or simply don't have a measurable long-term income, then renting may be a better choice. because it is possible that the person has to move if he changes jobs or changes jobs.

but when it comes to making a more mature financial decision for the future, it is indeed better to buy a house. if we don't have money then making a loan can be done. we borrow money to buy a house in cash and not in installments. because the price of a house that is paid directly will be cheaper than buying a house by means of a credit system.

Even if one day we have difficulty paying loan bills, we can just rent out a house or room in the house to someone. and we collect the money to pay loan installments.

because at least we already have a home. but if we continue to rent or rent a house, the rent that we spend every month will not make us have a house to live in at that time. and we just like keep giving money to the owner of the house we live in. then wouldn't it be better for us to make a loan of money and buy it for a house. and then we can rent out part of the house to pay off loan repayments that we have borrowed. but everything will indeed return to certain situations and conditions. because not all situations can do the same thing.
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It is not necessarily a waste as long as it brings benefits and convenience to your work and life. Nowadays, owning a house is extremely difficult for young people, so renting is a good solution when starting a business because we may have to move a lot to get a better job. That is not wasted.

Yes, renting is a way the young entrepreneurs to start their businesses if they do not have enough funds at the start of their business journey. Getting rented houses or sometimes rented machinery may be extremely helpful.

Also, if you have a lot of extra resources, like land, plot, and shop you may put them on rent and can generate passive income. So it is a win-win situation for both of you, the one who receives rent and the one who acquires the object and pays the rent on it.

I believe that if you have extra resources and you do not lend them, then you are missing out on an opportunity to make extra income.
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This is one of the most discussed topics of the last years. It actually depends on the economic situation in the country. Sometimes rents are low relative to inflation and salaries. Sometimes the house prices are so high that it's unreasonable to put all the money to a house. The situation is different in developed countries naturally, but in countries with fragile economies the situation may change depending on the conjuncture.
I agree that it's important to own a house, but if house prices and loan rates are very high you can live in rent instead of making such a long-term investment.
My conviction is that possessing a domicile can offer several benefits in the long term, but it's not always possible for everyone. The financial situation of a country plays a substantial role in deciding whether it's better to rent or own. It's imperative to deliberate not only the current circumstances but also the possible changes in the future economy. Personally, I believe that a house gives a sensation of consistency and assurance that renting fails to provide. Nevertheless, I comprehend that the procedure of purchasing a house can be overwhelming and anxiety-provoking, particularly for those who don't possess financial stability. It's vital to make a knowledgeable choice and evaluate all the factors before making such a substantial investment. In conclusion, it's not merely about possessing a house but also about creating a haven where one feels gratified and at ease
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Renting money is an ugly thing that we have to leave behind, it's impossible for us to rely too much on renting money, it's better to live simply and according to ability, the temptation to live a luxurious lifestyle does make anyone try to follow people who like to show off on social media, but we must understand that not all the things that other people do we can do.

What are you going on about? And what do you mean by renting money? Surely you must have meant renting apartments or houses.  One might be inclined to think you didn’t even read the topic or some of the replies gotten on the thread before jumping on it and adding your opinion.

I do agree with your point though. It’s better to live according to your ability and means and not going broke trying to live a luxurious fake lifestyle that’s bound to ruin you in the long run.
Also, we shouldn’t believe what we see on social media as most normal people(not rich celebrities)on social media tend to live a fake life. It can be depressing if you fall prey to the notion that peoples lives are better than yours with what you’re seeing on the gram.
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If you're young and haven't inherited a property from your ancestors, chances are that you're forced to rent. Personally, I've been renting for over 6 years and have been living with my girlfriend for the last 4, sharing rent and utilities. Overall, we've both spent over €25,000 together, and after spending all this money, you're practically left with nothing and may be subject to looking for a new house at any moment.

The average rent for a one-bedroom apartment is between €300 and €400 at best; thus, I was thinking that taking a loan is as costly as paying rent per month, but after 15-20 years, you end up with a house. My main concerns are the following: First, if you're in a long-term relationship like myself, you can never be 100% sure that you'll be with that person in 20 or 30 years from now, which might prevent you from opting for a loan. Secondly, you need to be certain that the location or city of the property to be bought is convenient for future job offers and so on. Thirdly, because a loan is a many-year commitment, there's no guarantee that you'll be able to afford the monthly payment 15 years from now.

On top of that, finding the ideal house as a renter is almost impossible; there's a lack of housing, and rents are extremely expensive and unreasonable at the same time. We had a difficult time finding a house recently, and it's far from ideal. There is now a new government-funded loan program that is about to start, funding up to 75% of the loan interest-free while the rest is funded by private banks and is subject to a relatively low interest rate. This led me to think about taking a loan and purchasing an average two-bedroom apartment, but I have the concerns that I voiced earlier.

Such a great question. There is no direct answer for this because the topic is entirely subjective on one's financial state. You have been forced to rent due to high costs due to inflationary pressure and other factors (that are entirely outside of your control, given your circumstances).

In the US Private Equity has done a full on rug pull on the housing market for the millennial generation and all generations before them. This is because they foresaw all of this coming. The collapsing of the banks, and all markets. They are smart, and ruthless, and it has always been their goal to make us their slaves.

I was fortunate to be ahead of the game and work hard in my early 20s to be able to afford a house 5 years ago. Now what I pay for my mortgage basically is what others are paying for rent living in an apartment. I hope to not come across as bragging, because I'm not. I'm glad that I listened to my wife because I wanted to continue to rent for the foreseeable future but was convinced otherwise, that and I wanted to make my wife happy.

Just know that you can overcome whatever the price is to buy whatever home you want, because today you're still breathing. You're blessed and your greatest assets are your heath and the ability to generate as much income as you possibly can overtime
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Renting money is an ugly thing that we have to leave behind, it's impossible for us to rely too much on renting money, it's better to live simply and according to ability, the temptation to live a luxurious lifestyle does make anyone try to follow people who like to show off on social media, but we must understand that not all the things that other people do we can do.
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