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Quote from: BADecker on May 05, 2016, 04:56:41 PM

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Quote from: BADecker on May 02, 2016, 08:44:46 AM

Science is just another belief system that happens to have some facts that everybody would agree on, same as any other religion.

Science is not a belief system... it is an evidence system

Science shows you the evidence, and you are free to believe whatever you like

Science has proven itself to be reliable, time after time... it is capable of predicting future events, which religion is not

Wrong! Science has become a probability belief system. Remember Quantum Theory? > Probability Theory. > Theory theory. Science is all wrapped up in believing it is true because it might be. Religion!

This only shows that you fail to understand science... science is about what you can prove... not what 'might' happen... wow

I have never met someone so willfully ignorant that they will mislead people on purpose

Is ignorance bliss, as they say?

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Quote from: Dassi on May 05, 2016, 04:36:06 PM

Science is the religion of an atheist...

I know a lot of nobrain atheists, lol Grin

I think that the main purpose of science is find a fact of God existing but they keep failing cause God will never show to us till we will stop making our sins.

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Quote from: Moloch on May 05, 2016, 03:09:50 PM

Quote from: BADecker on May 02, 2016, 08:44:46 AM

Science is just another belief system that happens to have some facts that everybody would agree on, same as any other religion.

Science is not a belief system... it is an evidence system

Science shows you the evidence, and you are free to believe whatever you like

Science has proven itself to be reliable, time after time... it is capable of predicting future events, which religion is not

Wrong! Science has become a probability belief system. Remember Quantum Theory? > Probability Theory. > Theory theory. Science is all wrapped up in believing it is true because it might be. Religion!

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Science is the religion of an atheist...

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Quote from: BADecker on May 02, 2016, 08:44:46 AM

Science is just another belief system that happens to have some facts that everybody would agree on, same as any other religion.

Science is not a belief system... it is an evidence system

Science shows you the evidence, and you are free to believe whatever you like

Science has proven itself to be reliable, time after time... it is capable of predicting future events, which religion is not

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Quote from: BADecker on May 05, 2016, 08:42:51 AM

Or do you know everything that all the scientists profess?

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We know that scientific method undergoes scrutiny while religion undergoes story telling and measuring how bad you did in the world..

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Science/atheism is a religion in the same way that abstinence is a sexual position... or that bald is a hairstyle... it's not

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Quote from: kaomaxx on May 05, 2016, 05:52:29 AM

by difination religion is a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when
considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs...Science is close to being a religion but will never be a religion inspite Science being based upon verifiable evidence on the other hand Religious faith not only lacks evidence, its independence from evidence is its pride and joy

If you and I sit across from each other at a table in a coffee shop, we know the fact of each others existence. If I tell you that I will buy you a cup of coffee as soon as the waitress gets over to take our order, you might have faith that I will do it. But maybe you know me better, and have faith that I won't.

The existence of God and nature are facts. The promises of God and nature may or may not be taken on faith. Both religion and science express both fact and things that must be taken on faith. Or do you know everything that all the scientists profess?

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by difination religion is a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when
considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs...Science is close to being a religion but will never be a religion inspite Science being based upon verifiable evidence on the other hand Religious faith not only lacks evidence, its independence from evidence is its pride and joy

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Science is the religion for people who don't believe God.
i believe in the one above all

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that last one,hits the top Grin

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Quote from: BADecker on May 02, 2016, 08:44:46 AM

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Science is just another belief system, and like any belief system it can be abused. Before anyone starts flipping out I am not denying science has value or saying it is not valid. The problem with science is it is a fact that most people do not KNOW anything about it. Science is based on empirical data, IE first hand observation via the senses. This can take many forms and come via many different types of instruments. Most people never personally conducted any of these experiments to verify the validity of any of this data, they are simply accepting second hand information from others who have. As a result most science is simply just a collection of beliefs. You believe the scientist that collected the data did so correctly. You believe they don't have ulterior motives. You believe the peer reviews of said studies are accurate and not doctored. You believe the journals that publish them do not have ulterior motives.

Since most people don't have the knowledge or resources to replicate these experiments themselves, what most people call science is just a string of beliefs. In sort, unless you have witnessed it with your own senses, you are just practicing another belief system. As a result science can be manipulated and have many of the same flaws of any other belief system, especially considering the fact that there is still a lot that science still does not claim to know. This is important to understand, because without this knowledge one can fall into many of the same traps that plague religious believers by blindly just swallowing what others have told you and accepting it as fact rather than a possible unknown.

Wow.. Nailed it!

Science is just another belief system that happens to have some facts that everybody would agree on, same as any other religion.

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Science doesn't explain the most important things and is limited. While Religion is very vast and far more things included in it.

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Quote from: alplaxxx on May 02, 2016, 10:20:17 PM

Science, then, is free of the main vice of religion, which is faith. But, as I pointed out, science does have some of religion’s virtues. Religion may aspire to provide its followers with various benefits among them explanation, consolation, and uplift. Science, too, has something to offer in these areas.

Science theory is part of science. Science theory is not fact. But a bunch of scientists get together and suggest the odds that they think are close enough for a science theory to be fact, so that they can believe it is fact when not proven. Thus they have faith.

Like religion, there are some things in science that are known to be fact. There are other things that are not known to be fact, but are believed as though they were fact. This is the same as religion. Science is religion.

Now, this wouldn't be so bad. After all, why not have a bunch of religious scientists? But they and the media talk about theory as though it were fact, and they get a bunch of ignorant laypeople to believe they know what they are talking about. So, they have a bunch of "church-goers" in the laypeople who believe them.

The universities and science investigation companies are the churches. The scientists are the priests. They do it for money, the great high priest.

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Science, then, is free of the main vice of religion, which is faith. But, as I pointed out, science does have some of religion’s virtues. Religion may aspire to provide its followers with various benefits among them explanation, consolation, and uplift. Science, too, has something to offer in these areas.

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Quote from: tabas on May 02, 2016, 08:49:21 AM

Quote from: BADecker on May 02, 2016, 08:44:46 AM

Science is just another belief system that happens to have some facts that everybody would agree on, same as any other religion.

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So in short, science is also a religion. That atheist states that they would believe God if there is a scientific basis onto something regarding faith and God. But science can't prove it.

Atheists' religion is science, I guess?

First, not every religion has God, So why equate religion with God all the time?

Second, the word "God" has a dictionary definition. The definition is irrespective of the personal relationship people have with God, and it is different than the way many people understand God. Combining the scientifically acknowledged facts of cause and effect, complex universe and universal entropy, proves the existence of the God of the dictionary definition.

Atheists, by attempting to believe that there is no God, are attempting to set themselves up as gods over the God that has been proven to exist, and are self-destructing their atheism thereby. Atheism is said to exist, but it doesn't, really.

Further, atheists say that atheism is not a religion. But when the definition of what atheists say and do is set up next to the definition of religion, it is seen that atheists DO HAVE a religion that revolves around atheism, and that if atheism is somehow NOT a religion, it is extremely close to being a religion.

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Big bang? How do you get something from nothing, faith? Evolution, theory only no evidence, faith, believe NASA faith, sounds like a religion to me

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Quote from: BADecker on May 02, 2016, 08:44:46 AM

Science is just another belief system that happens to have some facts that everybody would agree on, same as any other religion.

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So in short, science is also a religion. That atheist states that they would believe God if there is a scientific basis onto something regarding faith and God. But science can't prove it.

Atheists' religion is science, I guess?

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Quote from: Your Point Is Invalid on May 01, 2016, 10:50:45 PM

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Quote from: Oralmat on April 30, 2016, 08:34:56 AM

Religious facts are proven by science.

Not every facts were proven. There are lots of exceptions which can't never be proven by the science.

Then how is it a fact if it cant be proven? Are you familiar with the word 'Fact'?

The sky is blue because billions of people see the blueness. But it isn't blue, really. Rather, it is what it is made up of... air and water and cosmic rays.

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Quote from: BunkerChain.Labs.Inc. on May 01, 2016, 11:10:38 PM

Quote from: TECSHARE on March 30, 2016, 10:47:26 PM

Science is just another belief system, and like any belief system it can be abused. Before anyone starts flipping out I am not denying science has value or saying it is not valid. The problem with science is it is a fact that most people do not KNOW anything about it. Science is based on empirical data, IE first hand observation via the senses. This can take many forms and come via many different types of instruments. Most people never personally conducted any of these experiments to verify the validity of any of this data, they are simply accepting second hand information from others who have. As a result most science is simply just a collection of beliefs. You believe the scientist that collected the data did so correctly. You believe they don't have ulterior motives. You believe the peer reviews of said studies are accurate and not doctored. You believe the journals that publish them do not have ulterior motives.

Since most people don't have the knowledge or resources to replicate these experiments themselves, what most people call science is just a string of beliefs. In sort, unless you have witnessed it with your own senses, you are just practicing another belief system. As a result science can be manipulated and have many of the same flaws of any other belief system, especially considering the fact that there is still a lot that science still does not claim to know. This is important to understand, because without this knowledge one can fall into many of the same traps that plague religious believers by blindly just swallowing what others have told you and accepting it as fact rather than a possible unknown.

Wow.. Nailed it!

Science is just another belief system that happens to have some facts that everybody would agree on, same as any other religion.

Cool

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Quote from: TECSHARE on March 30, 2016, 10:47:26 PM

Science is just another belief system, and like any belief system it can be abused. Before anyone starts flipping out I am not denying science has value or saying it is not valid. The problem with science is it is a fact that most people do not KNOW anything about it. Science is based on empirical data, IE first hand observation via the senses. This can take many forms and come via many different types of instruments. Most people never personally conducted any of these experiments to verify the validity of any of this data, they are simply accepting second hand information from others who have. As a result most science is simply just a collection of beliefs. You believe the scientist that collected the data did so correctly. You believe they don't have ulterior motives. You believe the peer reviews of said studies are accurate and not doctored. You believe the journals that publish them do not have ulterior motives.

Since most people don't have the knowledge or resources to replicate these experiments themselves, what most people call science is just a string of beliefs. In sort, unless you have witnessed it with your own senses, you are just practicing another belief system. As a result science can be manipulated and have many of the same flaws of any other belief system, especially considering the fact that there is still a lot that science still does not claim to know. This is important to understand, because without this knowledge one can fall into many of the same traps that plague religious believers by blindly just swallowing what others have told you and accepting it as fact rather than a possible unknown.

Wow.. Nailed it!

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