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Quote from: ObscureBean on August 29, 2016, 12:31:36 AM

Science and religion are essentially one and the same thing and can be used interchangeably in any context.

Where do you people get such ideas?

Science is about finding the truth via evidence & experimentation, and correctly predicting future results (like cosmic background radiation)

Religion is about telling stories which are bullshit, have zero scientific merit, and are not capable of predicting anything

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Science and religion are essentially one and the same thing and can be used interchangeably in any context. They are the two faces of the same coin.
One face being aware of the other is what gives rise to individual identities.
Basically, everyone has a unique personal balance of the two, that unique balance is what gives a person his/her unique identity.
No two person can ever experience the exact same balance.

For example: balance1/person1: Science (77.8745%) - Religion (22.1255%).
It is possible for another person to outwardly appear to have to the same balance but only if a limit is set to the number of decimal places.
If no limit is set, then at some point, if you keep increasing decimal places, a divergence is guaranteed to occur. Hence unique identities.

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Well science may a little comparison in bible. Why? Because during god create planets and sun. Scientists said that there is big bang theory happen million years ago. Adan and Eve created by god. Scientist said that the revolutionary of human being is based on ape. There is alittle comparison about it. And also base on history scientist made a statement about biology which god says "GROW AND MULTIPLY". Everything happens in this land that scientist predict is GOD's made. So theres a connection between RELIGION AND SCIENCE.

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Quote from: escrowboy on July 11, 2016, 08:31:50 AM

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Quote from: Betwrong on July 06, 2016, 04:44:59 AM

I think the main difference between science and religion is that with a scientific approach you can dobut everyting and with a religious one you can't doubt many things even is they have not much sense.

Yeah, like atheist wants doubts because science can give them information and that's the reason why they are too knowledgeable. While when you're stick in religion it only requires faith for your doubts, you won't really find the answer but you just give it to gods mysterious ways.

Now you are explaining the way many major scientists treat science theory, like it was fact, when they don't know.

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Hey man, if it isn't a fact then why they're moving and making things that they real? Do you think they just invent rocket accidentally? It undergo study just what they always do and the result is happening. They do what they say.

Rocket making doesn't have anything to do with science theory. It has to do with engineering. Engineering is the taking of science and making it work. Then science takes what the engineers made work, and adjust their science so that they can say that they thought it up. Science theory is like this a lot. Some science theory that is believed to be fact, will never get to fact status, even if it is fact. Big Bang Theory is like this. Can't prove Big Bang no matter how hard we try. If it is fact, we will never know. But it probably isn't fact.

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I'd like to turn that one upside down if I may.

In Eastern cultures, a valid religion is considered as scientifically verifiable with regard the specific changes in the person... and especially with regard to the direct experience of having a better life. The second may not sound like science, but to the person who has undergone the change, it becomes the absolute truth.

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Education is destroying religion. Science isn't at war with religion, and would happily totally ignore it. Science seeks only to observe and explain the natural world around us. It's actually religion that is at war with science

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Well, science is not religion and it doesn’t just come down to faith. Although it has many of religion’s virtues, it has none of its vices. Science is based upon verifiable evidence. Religious faith not only lacks evidence, its independence from evidence is its pride and joy, shouted from the rooftops. Why else would Christians wax critical of doubting Thomas, the other apostles are held up to us as exemplars of virtue because faith was enough for them. Doubting Thomas, on the other hand, required evidence. Perhaps he should be the patron saint of scientists.

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Quote from: BADecker on July 10, 2016, 03:42:47 PM

Quote from: Jmild1 on July 10, 2016, 03:39:18 PM

Quote from: Betwrong on July 06, 2016, 04:44:59 AM

I think the main difference between science and religion is that with a scientific approach you can dobut everyting and with a religious one you can't doubt many things even is they have not much sense.

Yeah, like atheist wants doubts because science can give them information and that's the reason why they are too knowledgeable. While when you're stick in religion it only requires faith for your doubts, you won't really find the answer but you just give it to gods mysterious ways.

Now you are explaining the way many major scientists treat science theory, like it was fact, when they don't know.

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Hey man, if it isn't a fact then why they're moving and making things that they real? Do you think they just invent rocket accidentally? It undergo study just what they always do and the result is happening. They do what they say.

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Quote from: frankmb on July 11, 2016, 07:50:25 AM

Science is fact searching/discovering adjusting.

There is no comparison with religion since religion has 0 facts.

Science is making theories which are not fact, and then believing the theories to be fact before they are proven. This makes science to be believing 0 fact, while many things in the religious books have been proven true. For example, Jericho in the Bible.

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Science is fact searching/discovering adjusting.

There is no comparison with religion since religion has 0 facts.

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Quote from: Jmild1 on July 10, 2016, 03:39:18 PM

Quote from: Betwrong on July 06, 2016, 04:44:59 AM

I think the main difference between science and religion is that with a scientific approach you can dobut everyting and with a religious one you can't doubt many things even is they have not much sense.

Yeah, like atheist wants doubts because science can give them information and that's the reason why they are too knowledgeable. While when you're stick in religion it only requires faith for your doubts, you won't really find the answer but you just give it to gods mysterious ways.

Now you are explaining the way many major scientists treat science theory, like it was fact, when they don't know.

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Quote from: Betwrong on July 06, 2016, 04:44:59 AM

I think the main difference between science and religion is that with a scientific approach you can dobut everyting and with a religious one you can't doubt many things even is they have not much sense.

Yeah, like atheist wants doubts because science can give them information and that's the reason why they are too knowledgeable. While when you're stick in religion it only requires faith for your doubts, you won't really find the answer but you just give it to gods mysterious ways.

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Quote from: kaitou.kidd on July 08, 2016, 04:17:24 AM

Science is a method into figuring out the way the physical universe works. Religion is set of values and beliefs that people live by. The closest that they get, to me, is that some people believe that science and god work hand-in-hand, while others believe that one completely disproves of the other. But, ultimately, these two subjects have two completely different concepts. I wouldn't say the scientific method is a "ritual".

Quote from: groll on July 09, 2016, 02:22:11 AM

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Scientism is not even a religion it is just a extreme belief that everything can be explained by scientific methods. Religion in the right sense is a way of life, it is a guide to live a moral life. It is not an explanation of nature rather it focuses on how people should live their lives. In this sense scientism is not in line with religion it is like a cult.

Quote from: zythen on July 10, 2016, 11:31:27 AM

Not at all. Science is actually closer to the opposite of religion. Religions guard their dogma against reasoned criticism, but science invites, rewards and embraces reasoned criticism.

Quote from: yesiam6 on July 10, 2016, 12:18:33 PM

It's imo the opposite of a religion
it's based on facts and not on pure faith like religion is

The point isn't what science is supposed to be. The point is what science is. Here is the point.

Science theory is not known to be fact. When people believe that it is fact, and when these people are the guardian scientists of science, then science becomes a religion for all who believe the unknown to be factual.

If someone gives you a sealed jar and says, "What's in the jar," you might have all kinds of ideas about what's in the jar. But you don't know until you open the jar.

Science theory is like the jar. When the jar gets opened, it is not theory anymore. Then it becomes science fact. But if you take a guess before the jar is opened - before the theory is proven - you don't really know if you are right or not.

When you place so much faith in the idea that you know, before you really DO know, and you spread the info around all over the place, you are doing with science the same kind of thing religious people do with religions.

Science has become a religion.

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It's imo the opposite of a religion
it's based on facts and not on pure faith like religion is

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Not at all. Science is actually closer to the opposite of religion. Religions guard their dogma against reasoned criticism, but science invites, rewards and embraces reasoned criticism.

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Quote from: Jmild1 on June 03, 2016, 10:40:30 AM

Quote from: tetra on June 03, 2016, 09:12:07 AM

Science is not.
Scientism is.

you got it right there, science is just a tool to gather information with scrutiny, scientism is a way of believing that all things can be explain base to science.

Scientism is not even a religion it is just a extreme belief that everything can be explained by scientific methods. Religion in the right sense is a way of life, it is a guide to live a moral life. It is not an explanation of nature rather it focuses on how people should live their lives. In this sense scientism is not in line with religion it is like a cult.

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Science is a method into figuring out the way the physical universe works. Religion is set of values and beliefs that people live by. The closest that they get, to me, is that some people believe that science and god work hand-in-hand, while others believe that one completely disproves of the other. But, ultimately, these two subjects have two completely different concepts. I wouldn't say the scientific method is a "ritual".

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Quote from: hermanhs09 on July 06, 2016, 06:52:30 AM

You cannot say science is a religion when you got no evidence at all that creatures that exist in religion (let's say satan) exist in the real world too.

Religious people would say that they have evidence for many things of religion, but often no proof. There is a major aspect of science that says the same in science.

Quote from: hermanhs09 on July 06, 2016, 06:52:30 AM

The problem is that science is something based on evidence,proofs etc.

However, science theory is part of science that has not been proven. Yet many scientists, the media, and many books say that some scientific theories are true, just like religion with their religious beliefs, when they don't know that the science theories are true.

Quote from: hermanhs09 on July 06, 2016, 06:52:30 AM

and religion is based only on faith,and human fear.

God exists. This fact is proven by science, although few people talk about the proof. Religious faith is often based on whether or not God is telling the truth. Many people adhere to religious faith because of the joys that God tells them will be theirs in the future, rather than fear of some trouble in the future.

Quote from: hermanhs09 on July 06, 2016, 06:52:30 AM

linking science with religion isn't a good idea.

Science is doing the linking by acting like a religion with regard to science theories.

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You cannot say science is a religion when you got no evidence at all that creatures that exist in religion (let's say satan) exist in the real world too.
The problem is that science is something based on evidence,proofs etc. and religion is based only on faith,and human fear.
linking science with religion isn't a good idea.

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Quote from: Betwrong on July 06, 2016, 04:44:59 AM

I think the main difference between science and religion is that with a scientific approach you can dobut everyting and with a religious one you can't doubt many things even is they have not much sense.

Well I doubt plenty of religious nonsense.

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