Is stealing Bitcoin illegal? - page 16.

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Quote from: crairezx20 on September 25, 2016, 02:17:30 PM

I think we can not say that stealing bitcoin maybe we can say hack if they know your password your account can be hack and your bitcoin can be gone.. stealing is other term but the real is hack. i still never heard any news that someone wallet are stealing by others.. because they can not bring the wallet only inside bitcoins that can send them in their wallet..

You got the point there hacking is different way from stealing. But they have the same purpose. What do hackers do when they are hacking something, they are stealing information, money and everything. So we can still say that hacking is stealing and stealing is hacking no matter what they have different meaning to each of us but the fact that they are not a good way for others to do that.

That is right. There is no difference between the hacking and stealing in the physical world. The effect is the same.

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Quote from: SONG GEET on September 25, 2016, 02:51:37 PM

I think odds of getting same bitcoin address and private key is almost zero. I have seen somewhere that total number of bitcoin address that can exist is more than the total number of sands particles whole world have. So probability is so low i think in range of 0.000..........00001%.

Yes, it's very very complicated. To get the same address and private key is like impossible. It's one of the reasons for which I was scared to get a cold wallet, but as soon as I found out the possibility... Come on, I can't be the unluckiest person in the world! Cheesy

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I think odds of getting same bitcoin address and private key is almost zero. I have seen somewhere that total number of bitcoin address that can exist is more than the total number of sands particles whole world have. So probability is so low i think in range of 0.000..........00001%.

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I think we can not say that stealing bitcoin maybe we can say hack if they know your password your account can be hack and your bitcoin can be gone.. stealing is other term but the real is hack. i still never heard any news that someone wallet are stealing by others.. because they can not bring the wallet only inside bitcoins that can send them in their wallet..

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Stealing is illegal but the thing in first post is not stealing but being lucky I feel.
It won't quite happen anyways.

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Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 06:32:05 PM

Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.

Of course it is illegal simply because it is stealing and it belongs to someone else. But there is no law at this moment when you steal bitcoin. It just your conscience.

That is right. Stealing bitcoin is the same as stealing other goods which does not belong to the thief.

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Quote from: Vinz24 on September 24, 2016, 08:56:09 AM

Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 06:32:05 PM

Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.

Of course it is illegal simply because it is stealing and it belongs to someone else. But there is no law at this moment when you steal bitcoin. It just your conscience.

Problem is how can you contact the one who sent you money. If it is just a code it will really be hard. Even you have conscience if you dont know how to sent it back it will be mess.

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Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 06:32:05 PM

Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.

Of course it is illegal simply because it is stealing and it belongs to someone else. But there is no law at this moment when you steal bitcoin. It just your conscience.

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you create a new wallet and there is bitcoin in the wallet that you create ?!?!

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Quote from: Yutikas_11920 on September 24, 2016, 06:51:16 AM

Quote from: ashiqdey on September 24, 2016, 06:24:32 AM

bitcoin is a digital asset and stealing any digital asset is a crime, even if you copy the content from any website unless they mention that content is copyable is also a crime so obviously stealing bitcoin is a big crime it's like stealing any physical asset.

You're absolutely right, taking something that can harm someone is definitely something that is illegal. And take something without notice is something evil for not getting permission from the owner. Your life will be looking a mess when doing a burglary, enjoy and are grateful for what we get.

Even if stealing Bitcoin is illegal don't you think you will get your money/Bitcoin back? Bitcoin Criminals are smart they have hundreds of wallet addreses that you can't even trace one because it's untraceable, thats why the transfer of your money from 1 account to another is fast and easy your money will be distributed to other accounts that they owned, making it impossible to trace back your money.

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Quote from: ashiqdey on September 24, 2016, 06:24:32 AM

bitcoin is a digital asset and stealing any digital asset is a crime, even if you copy the content from any website unless they mention that content is copyable is also a crime so obviously stealing bitcoin is a big crime it's like stealing any physical asset.

Stealing is a crime not matter if you steal bitcoin or steal a Pen.. bitcoin is a money and stealing money is one of the biggest crime.
but in some countries where now any low for bitcoin I don't know what will be the situation if someone steal your coins.
Govt may don't even listen your case because they don't count bitcoin as a currency...
but this thing won't make bitcoin stealing legal in those countries

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Quote from: ashiqdey on September 24, 2016, 06:24:32 AM

bitcoin is a digital asset and stealing any digital asset is a crime, even if you copy the content from any website unless they mention that content is copyable is also a crime so obviously stealing bitcoin is a big crime it's like stealing any physical asset.

You're absolutely right, taking something that can harm someone is definitely something that is illegal. And take something without notice is something evil for not getting permission from the owner. Your life will be looking a mess when doing a burglary, enjoy and are grateful for what we get.

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Quote from: Nowl1935 on September 23, 2016, 11:34:47 AM

Stealing is an act of crime, so it is very illegal to steal bitcoin no matter how cheap the amount is. As long as you don't own that particular things then suddenly it comes to ur mind to steal it, then you're committed a crime if you continue to do it on what u are thinking.

of course, stealing is illegal. but if you look at the situation different from what is asked by the OP. look no act of stealing when he can get bitcoin with produce from the new address. except, if someone claims and have evidence that bitcoin hers, but he did not want to return after there is a evidence was accurate and could be said to be a steal.

You mean if we get bitcoin from someone we do not know, it was not stealing but occurred because of fault of the owners of bitcoin.

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bitcoin is a digital asset and stealing any digital asset is a crime, even if you copy the content from any website unless they mention that content is copyable is also a crime so obviously stealing bitcoin is a big crime it's like stealing any physical asset.

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don't worry that will never happen to anyone and yes steeling anything is illigal in anywhere because it is not only applied for polic matters but for public matters too

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Quote from: Nowl1935 on September 23, 2016, 11:34:47 AM

Stealing is an act of crime, so it is very illegal to steal bitcoin no matter how cheap the amount is. As long as you don't own that particular things then suddenly it comes to ur mind to steal it, then you're committed a crime if you continue to do it on what u are thinking.

of course, stealing is illegal. but if you look at the situation different from what is asked by the OP. look no act of stealing when he can get bitcoin with produce from the new address. except, if someone claims and have evidence that bitcoin hers, but he did not want to return after there is a evidence was accurate and could be said to be a steal.

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Quote from: t2yax on September 22, 2016, 06:20:56 AM

not just bitcoin stealing everything is illegal,lol how may you ask this question ?

Curiosity always is a burden, and he is just curious in things he doesn't know well in my opinion it is maybe OK to get something if the owner is unknown or the thing you have seen and then get a hands on it doesn't claim by anyone then I think it is OK to take it, but if someone else would claim that it is his or her then I think a proper hearing on things between the one claiming and the one that found the item may take part.

this is what im telling them from the start. it is not a thief if you found something in your doorstep and no one claims it. First that area is your property, basically that wallet address you created is yours. If anything in there without someone claiming it, automatically become yours. Example, a baby found in a ship without knowing the childs parents and nationality will become a citizen of the country of that ship.

the hard part is the one with the "claiming it". the debate starts if someone claims it is his and you doubt it (he could be lying to get free stuff) and/or think it is to late to claim it (already spent it).

You mean that he already spent if he scam or steal it already.. you can not blame them because they already steal it from you..

what i meant was a situation if i find something on my property (or wallet) and after 3 year someone comes along and wants it because it is his. well at this point someone could argue, that you waited for a long and then spent it, so there is nothing to give back.

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Quote from: Senor.Bla on September 23, 2016, 12:29:21 PM

Quote from: serjent05 on September 23, 2016, 12:02:14 PM

Quote from: YuginKadoya on September 22, 2016, 06:48:16 AM

Quote from: t2yax on September 22, 2016, 06:20:56 AM

not just bitcoin stealing everything is illegal,lol how may you ask this question ?

Curiosity always is a burden, and he is just curious in things he doesn't know well in my opinion it is maybe OK to get something if the owner is unknown or the thing you have seen and then get a hands on it doesn't claim by anyone then I think it is OK to take it, but if someone else would claim that it is his or her then I think a proper hearing on things between the one claiming and the one that found the item may take part.

this is what im telling them from the start. it is not a thief if you found something in your doorstep and no one claims it. First that area is your property, basically that wallet address you created is yours. If anything in there without someone claiming it, automatically become yours. Example, a baby found in a ship without knowing the childs parents and nationality will become a citizen of the country of that ship.

the hard part is the one with the "claiming it". the debate starts if someone claims it is his and you doubt it (he could be lying to get free stuff) and/or think it is to late to claim it (already spent it).

You mean that he already spent if he scam or steal it already.. you can not blame them because they already steal it from you..

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Quote from: serjent05 on September 23, 2016, 12:02:14 PM

Quote from: YuginKadoya on September 22, 2016, 06:48:16 AM

Quote from: t2yax on September 22, 2016, 06:20:56 AM

not just bitcoin stealing everything is illegal,lol how may you ask this question ?

Curiosity always is a burden, and he is just curious in things he doesn't know well in my opinion it is maybe OK to get something if the owner is unknown or the thing you have seen and then get a hands on it doesn't claim by anyone then I think it is OK to take it, but if someone else would claim that it is his or her then I think a proper hearing on things between the one claiming and the one that found the item may take part.

this is what im telling them from the start. it is not a thief if you found something in your doorstep and no one claims it. First that area is your property, basically that wallet address you created is yours. If anything in there without someone claiming it, automatically become yours. Example, a baby found in a ship without knowing the childs parents and nationality will become a citizen of the country of that ship.

the hard part is the one with the "claiming it". the debate starts if someone claims it is his and you doubt it (he could be lying to get free stuff) and/or think it is to late to claim it (already spent it).

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on September 22, 2016, 06:48:16 AM

Quote from: t2yax on September 22, 2016, 06:20:56 AM

not just bitcoin stealing everything is illegal,lol how may you ask this question ?

Curiosity always is a burden, and he is just curious in things he doesn't know well in my opinion it is maybe OK to get something if the owner is unknown or the thing you have seen and then get a hands on it doesn't claim by anyone then I think it is OK to take it, but if someone else would claim that it is his or her then I think a proper hearing on things between the one claiming and the one that found the item may take part.

this is what im telling them from the start. it is not a thief if you found something in your doorstep and no one claims it. First that area is your property, basically that wallet address you created is yours. If anything in there without someone claiming it, automatically become yours. Example, a baby found in a ship without knowing the childs parents and nationality will become a citizen of the country of that ship.

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