Is stealing Bitcoin illegal? - page 19.

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Quote from: agustina2 on September 15, 2016, 02:45:42 PM

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on September 15, 2016, 07:33:30 AM

Well if anyone would know if the transacted bitcoin are stolen that would be easy but I think that would be very hard to know, but you can trace every bitcoin address that takes part in every transaction and that is the time you would know when a transaction is made and where would the bitcoin would go, Well I think that would be the time he would know if his bitcoin got stolen.

You cannot trace the bitcoin transaction if it passes on some mixer already and that is actually what the scammers doing now thats why they are very hard to trace and cannot be sue,
@OP anything you stole wheter it is have amount or not aslong as it's not yours well it can be also called stealing and that qct is strongly prohibited by law since this doing is illegal act by those people who cannot do good deeds to people and want easy money on their pocket.

When a signature campaign would pay you bitcoin your bitcoin address would record the transaction or bitcoin address of the payer, I think this can be traceable and that is what I mean about tracing the said transaction, you can see the bitcoin address of a transaction in your wallet, or if your wallet has these kind of report transaction you would know the bitcoin address but not the person involve in the said transaction.

It's obvious that all bitcoin transaction are recorded in the blockchain and that is a basic knowledge.

But anyways it's not the OP concern. The coins are mistakenly received by it's new generated address and I think it's just fine if OP will use it since it's all accident and no such thing as reversible in bitcoin transaction.

That is what I am telling him that the transaction are recorded and can be trace if what bitcoin address it will go to,

Well if the case that it is just a generated address and has a bitcoin in it that he doesn't know if who's bitcoin it is well he can surely get a grip of that coins, maybe it is not a crime because he got access on a free address that has a bitcoin but it is not through your hardship so I think it is free bitcoin so he can take it without further adieu.

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Guys stealing is illegal plain and simple, tho BTC is not technically a legal entity if you steal it from some one and they can prove it you will get into trouble

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Quote from: JITENDERPAR3 on September 15, 2016, 07:14:04 PM

Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 05:32:05 PM

Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.

it is just like lucky bitcoiner or you can say miracle . but if you qant to return btc to the user whose is , then it is impossible . because due to peivacy of bircoin user no one can find the owner of btc . now enjoy btc which you get in adress .

Its a very rare situation which somehow a bug on processing newly generated bitcoin address since as we all know that newly generated addresses is unique and dont have any identical even how many users are here in bitcoin world. As you said giving back the money on the money would be impossible since you didnt even know if whos the owner.

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Quote from: molsewid on September 15, 2016, 06:42:25 PM

200% illegal stealing money from another people lol make sense people you if your the one who have money in this forum and someone steal it then you'all be happy? ofcourse no right and you want that money to bring back or get it back.

Yeah it is really not a good thing if you are going to steal someones bitcoin illegally. And if you are going to think out of it, anywhere if someone is going to cheat or steal that is not a good act. Because bitcoin or not as long as you are going to steal someones property that is really an act of crime and you are just making bad for your reputation.

In the sense that you get someones possesion without his permission or awareness then its considered as stealing and its very illegal in anyway. Where did you hear that stealing is legal? Stealing is stealing and its definitely a crime no matter what thing you get from someone.

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Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 05:32:05 PM

Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.

it is just like lucky bitcoiner or you can say miracle . but if you qant to return btc to the user whose is , then it is impossible . because due to peivacy of bircoin user no one can find the owner of btc . now enjoy btc which you get in adress .

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200% illegal stealing money from another people lol make sense people you if your the one who have money in this forum and someone steal it then you'all be happy? ofcourse no right and you want that money to bring back or get it back.

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It's just as illegal as stealing anything. There's less regulation than IRL and in stores, but the concept is the same. Just don't do it, simple as that. You also get that terrible feeling that you just stole something from someone; doesn't happen to everyone, but you get the idea.

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Quote from: Iceborn on September 15, 2016, 05:23:06 PM

Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 05:32:05 PM

Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.

Yeah of course it is illegal but the thing is that there is not much that an be done about it, you cannot call the cops on them so no one is going to help you.
You will have to do something your self if someone stole from you.

if someone steal bitcoins then it is near to impossible to recover them back and only those can help them who will have the bitcoin as if he want to recover your bitcoin then you can get your bitcoins back.

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Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 05:32:05 PM

Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.

Yeah of course it is illegal but the thing is that there is not much that an be done about it, you cannot call the cops on them so no one is going to help you.
You will have to do something your self if someone stole from you.

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Of course it is stealing and really immoral and unethical. Just because it is quote on quote internet money and you don't see the face of someone you are stealing from doesn't make it okay. The main difference between stealing bitcoin and stealing someone's fiat money is that your more likely to not get in trouble with stealing someone's bitcoin.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on September 15, 2016, 09:35:04 AM

Quote from: arwin100 on September 15, 2016, 07:59:45 AM

Quote from: YuginKadoya on September 15, 2016, 07:33:30 AM

Well if anyone would know if the transacted bitcoin are stolen that would be easy but I think that would be very hard to know, but you can trace every bitcoin address that takes part in every transaction and that is the time you would know when a transaction is made and where would the bitcoin would go, Well I think that would be the time he would know if his bitcoin got stolen.

You cannot trace the bitcoin transaction if it passes on some mixer already and that is actually what the scammers doing now thats why they are very hard to trace and cannot be sue,
@OP anything you stole wheter it is have amount or not aslong as it's not yours well it can be also called stealing and that qct is strongly prohibited by law since this doing is illegal act by those people who cannot do good deeds to people and want easy money on their pocket.

When a signature campaign would pay you bitcoin your bitcoin address would record the transaction or bitcoin address of the payer, I think this can be traceable and that is what I mean about tracing the said transaction, you can see the bitcoin address of a transaction in your wallet, or if your wallet has these kind of report transaction you would know the bitcoin address but not the person involve in the said transaction.

It's obvious that all bitcoin transaction are recorded in the blockchain and that is a basic knowledge.

But anyways it's not the OP concern. The coins are mistakenly received by it's new generated address and I think it's just fine if OP will use it since it's all accident and no such thing as reversible in bitcoin transaction.

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Quote from: pakitz on September 10, 2016, 04:21:31 AM

from the word itself stealing.. its a crime.. so its not legal.. Cheesy

Simple and very straightforward. and very correct. I wonder where did those who think that stealing bitcoin is legal. Any rules or referrence for this? Anything that have relation to getting what is not yours is very immoral and it is stated in that it is punishable by law making it not legal.

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Quote from: drwtsn32 on September 15, 2016, 10:54:33 AM

Quote from: coins101 on September 10, 2016, 03:54:06 AM

If you accidentally find a private key and you can't know the owner, then its probably not illegal.

But if you stole a private key, then it is illegal.
Stealing is illegal. And you know what? It applies to everything. Not just to bitcoin.
Unless, you were stealing a toy from a child, that kind of stealing is not illegal.

Stealing a toy from a child is still stealing = illegal. Unless you are another child and at play school or something - i assume thats what you mean? If you take a kids skateboard in the street though its a different story.

Anyway bottom line is dont steal peoples bitcoin under any circumstance. Ethical trading contributes to the world. Provide services and people will be happy to give you bitcoin freely.

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Quote from: coins101 on September 10, 2016, 03:54:06 AM

If you accidentally find a private key and you can't know the owner, then its probably not illegal.

But if you stole a private key, then it is illegal.
Stealing is illegal. And you know what? It applies to everything. Not just to bitcoin.
Unless, you were stealing a toy from a child, that kind of stealing is not illegal.

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Quote from: arwin100 on September 15, 2016, 07:59:45 AM

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Quote from: PokemonFun on September 09, 2016, 01:34:53 PM

Taking something that is not yours is really illegal may it be bitcoin or anything that you take without any authority from the owner. In the case you've given wherein you accidentally have bitcoin in your wallet upon generating it and you don't know who gave it then it is not stealing because there is no intention. But a chance of this happening is near to impossible.

I agree with you a thing that you don't own is not your property and you must not stole it. Because think about it, when you have your own bitcoin and another person steals it. What are you going to feel? That is just like karma and it is for real. So if you don't want to happen to you, then don't do it to others.

Absolutely right, if every person imagine like that then they will respect everyone feelings and will not like to hurt every one and will try to pay what the other dues are and will not accept stolen bitcoins etc.

Well if anyone would know if the transacted bitcoin are stolen that would be easy but I think that would be very hard to know, but you can trace every bitcoin address that takes part in every transaction and that is the time you would know when a transaction is made and where would the bitcoin would go, Well I think that would be the time he would know if his bitcoin got stolen.

You cannot trace the bitcoin transaction if it passes on some mixer already and that is actually what the scammers doing now thats why they are very hard to trace and cannot be sue,

@OP anything you stole wheter it is have amount or not aslong as it's not yours well it can be also called stealing and that qct is strongly prohibited by law since this doing is illegal act by those people who cannot do good deeds to people and want easy money on their pocket.

When a signature campaign would pay you bitcoin your bitcoin address would record the transaction or bitcoin address of the payer, I think this can be traceable and that is what I mean about tracing the said transaction, you can see the bitcoin address of a transaction in your wallet, or if your wallet has these kind of report transaction you would know the bitcoin address but not the person involve in the said transaction.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on September 15, 2016, 07:33:30 AM

Quote from: Colt22 on September 12, 2016, 04:07:15 PM

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Quote from: PokemonFun on September 09, 2016, 01:34:53 PM

Taking something that is not yours is really illegal may it be bitcoin or anything that you take without any authority from the owner. In the case you've given wherein you accidentally have bitcoin in your wallet upon generating it and you don't know who gave it then it is not stealing because there is no intention. But a chance of this happening is near to impossible.

I agree with you a thing that you don't own is not your property and you must not stole it. Because think about it, when you have your own bitcoin and another person steals it. What are you going to feel? That is just like karma and it is for real. So if you don't want to happen to you, then don't do it to others.

Absolutely right, if every person imagine like that then they will respect everyone feelings and will not like to hurt every one and will try to pay what the other dues are and will not accept stolen bitcoins etc.

Well if anyone would know if the transacted bitcoin are stolen that would be easy but I think that would be very hard to know, but you can trace every bitcoin address that takes part in every transaction and that is the time you would know when a transaction is made and where would the bitcoin would go, Well I think that would be the time he would know if his bitcoin got stolen.

You cannot trace the bitcoin transaction if it passes on some mixer already and that is actually what the scammers doing now thats why they are very hard to trace and cannot be sue,

@OP anything you stole wheter it is have amount or not aslong as it's not yours well it can be also called stealing and that qct is strongly prohibited by law since this doing is illegal act by those people who cannot do good deeds to people and want easy money on their pocket.

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Quote from: Colt22 on September 12, 2016, 04:07:15 PM

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Quote from: PokemonFun on September 09, 2016, 01:34:53 PM

Taking something that is not yours is really illegal may it be bitcoin or anything that you take without any authority from the owner. In the case you've given wherein you accidentally have bitcoin in your wallet upon generating it and you don't know who gave it then it is not stealing because there is no intention. But a chance of this happening is near to impossible.

I agree with you a thing that you don't own is not your property and you must not stole it. Because think about it, when you have your own bitcoin and another person steals it. What are you going to feel? That is just like karma and it is for real. So if you don't want to happen to you, then don't do it to others.

Absolutely right, if every person imagine like that then they will respect everyone feelings and will not like to hurt every one and will try to pay what the other dues are and will not accept stolen bitcoins etc.

Well if anyone would know if the transacted bitcoin are stolen that would be easy but I think that would be very hard to know, but you can trace every bitcoin address that takes part in every transaction and that is the time you would know when a transaction is made and where would the bitcoin would go, Well I think that would be the time he would know if his bitcoin got stolen.

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Quote from: PokemonFun on September 09, 2016, 01:34:53 PM

Taking something that is not yours is really illegal may it be bitcoin or anything that you take without any authority from the owner. In the case you've given wherein you accidentally have bitcoin in your wallet upon generating it and you don't know who gave it then it is not stealing because there is no intention. But a chance of this happening is near to impossible.

I agree with you a thing that you don't own is not your property and you must not stole it. Because think about it, when you have your own bitcoin and another person steals it. What are you going to feel? That is just like karma and it is for real. So if you don't want to happen to you, then don't do it to others.

Absolutely right, if every person imagine like that then they will respect everyone feelings and will not like to hurt every one and will try to pay what the other dues are and will not accept stolen bitcoins etc.

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You can use the wallet for many different purposes,use a new Bitcoin address each time you receive a payment,hear bitcoin address and has a balance and you ask if it's illegal?..it's your lucky day because it does not steal Unless you are interested in receiving donations or public payment.

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I wouldn’t attempt to steal. But OP is assuming some else as stealing. There are many people that could find information about you on the internet. You should never steal bitcoin. You might end up messing with the wrong person.

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