Is stealing Bitcoin illegal? - page 31.

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Quote from: Hide_ip112 on August 04, 2016, 08:45:59 AM

Quote from: Kyhm on August 03, 2016, 10:31:00 AM

Yes, it's still stealing mate.
But nothing to worry in real life.

What?? Why not to worry ..?? . Something that can harm someone is an act which is not good and there is a chance the victim will seek to punish you according to what you do. Theft is not very well done and will be bad for you!!

If the theft on the Internet, to prove almost impossible, and punishment for the harm does not work.

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Quote from: Pro User on July 31, 2016, 11:18:45 AM

Yes! Of course stealing bitcoin is illegal. Still, if you find a forgotten wallet/lost wallet, it'll not be illegal. Because, owner of those bitcoin might have forgot about that.

disagree you are wrong because stealing of bitcoin is illegal in any situation ,so you can not say legal if one person steal bitcoin from other .

Agree with you about this but have one question then what to do with this if some one find any forgotten/lost wallet because he has no contact or any thing about him ?

If you find a lost wallet or a forgotten wallet, then I guess it's both fine and not fine to spend them for yourself as the decision would depend on how you would see it for yourself. Since, you do not have any contact with the owner of the wallet, it would be a waste to just leave the coins in there but then again, the owner might have been saving those coins for a long-term and you just happen to accidentally run across it.

yes but if you find a wallet and you do no know that who is the real owner of wallet and the owner also have no contact with you and you become satisfy that now it become difficult to find the owner of the wallet then you have to distribute it among the needy people but you have no right to use it for your self,

I agree too. But this is a very tricky situation because it might be a exchange's address that is not been used since long.

I personally think anyone of us who finds such btc will take it but still its not right or legal to take it. May be the person who previously and still owns this bitcoins needs more than current access gainer.

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Quote from: Jeraerid on August 02, 2016, 07:07:04 AM

I guess that stealing Bitcoin is illegal because if they do not belong to you then it is still considered stealing even if people think that Bitcoin is illegal as well.
So yes stealing Bitcoin is still not legal but there is not much that can be done if it happens.

Stealing bitcoin is illegal and a crime. In myc country it is categorized as cyber crime and cyber crime penalty is 1 degree higher. Meaning if the typical penalty for a crime is 1 month of imprisonment, it will be a year imprisonment. Much weight on the cyber crime penalty.

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Quote from: Hide_ip112 on August 04, 2016, 08:45:59 AM

Quote from: Kyhm on August 03, 2016, 10:31:00 AM

Yes, it's still stealing mate.
But nothing to worry in real life.

What?? Why not to worry ..?? . Something that can harm someone is an act which is not good and there is a chance the victim will seek to punish you according to what you do. Theft is not very well done and will be bad for you!!

This is nothing to worry in real life because it is pretty much impossible to ever generate same private key twice.
If you didn't read first post yet maybe you should do that before posting.

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Quote from: Kyhm on August 03, 2016, 10:31:00 AM

Yes, it's still stealing mate.
But nothing to worry in real life.

What?? Why not to worry ..?? . Something that can harm someone is an act which is not good and there is a chance the victim will seek to punish you according to what you do. Theft is not very well done and will be bad for you!!

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Quote from: TobiasIV on August 01, 2016, 04:22:13 PM

( Re: Is stealing Bitcoin illegal? )

So, when you asked your lawyer this question, what did he say?

I believe it depends on the quality of the lawyer..

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Lawyer will never suggest to not take the money. in fact he would say that accept it and later if any issues occurs I will take care of those. Because he is a professional and will seek profit in everything. Neither he has any sympathy with you or with the owner who own the bitcoins actually.

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Quote from: dinda22 on August 02, 2016, 04:25:03 AM

Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 05:32:05 PM

Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.

stealing of course illegal. but if what you say it, I think not a theft, when you generate a new address and in it there bitcoin belongs to someone else. but if you know the owner, it may be better to restore it. if you do not know the owner, meaning it belongs to you, and not considered as stealing.

yes you are right, stealing is some thing else if you are intentionally take some thing from a person without informing him it is called stealing and if you got some thing unexpectedly and without knowing about this, then you found some thing, but according to the Religion Islam if you found some thing and you do not know about the owner of the thing you should give it or distribute ti among the needy people on his name, but still you have no right to use it for your self.

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Quote from: equator on August 02, 2016, 04:09:35 AM

I think OP just wanted to justify that Bitcoin Stealing is not illegal, but he dont know that stealing is a stealing which means you are taking others things without getting their permission. Whether it is bitcoin or anything, which ever is taken without permission of the owner is considered as Illegal and as per law it is punishable, but in bitcoin it is hard to find the thief/hacker who have stolen or hacked the wallet and took the bitcoins from other wallet address, as it dont have the details about the holder of that wallet.

Yeah maybe but what the calification to make you can saying like that due it's only a question and i've a question for you about "stealing is a stealing" if there is a group of people who conceal something that was not for them, it's can said stealing too?

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I remember a program a few years back that would generate private and address keys, It had a database of unused addresses and would alert you if it found a match. Wonder what ever happened to it..

Yes, it's stealing, but here in the crypto world it doesn't seem to bother most people.
The exchanges close and keep the BTC
Devs collect ICOs and bolt with the BTC
Hardware companies presale equipment and never deliver and keep the BTC

It would be like finding money on the ground... You can pick it up and ask did anyone lose this!! I'm sure 90% of the users here would try to claim it!! Cheesy

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Quote from: Pro User on July 31, 2016, 11:18:45 AM

Yes! Of course stealing bitcoin is illegal. Still, if you find a forgotten wallet/lost wallet, it'll not be illegal. Because, owner of those bitcoin might have forgot about that.

disagree you are wrong because stealing of bitcoin is illegal in any situation ,so you can not say legal if one person steal bitcoin from other .

Agree with you about this but have one question then what to do with this if some one find any forgotten/lost wallet because he has no contact or any thing about him ?

If you find a lost wallet or a forgotten wallet, then I guess it's both fine and not fine to spend them for yourself as the decision would depend on how you would see it for yourself. Since, you do not have any contact with the owner of the wallet, it would be a waste to just leave the coins in there but then again, the owner might have been saving those coins for a long-term and you just happen to accidentally run across it.

Suppose you do not take that money then how can you make sure that money is someone else's ?
I think you should take it and not spend for long time maybe 2 months and if you see a claim been made, kindly repay it.

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Quote from: Kyhm on August 03, 2016, 10:31:00 AM

Yes, it's still stealing mate.
But nothing to worry in real life.

Funny answer boss, How you are telling that stealing is okay in real life. I think you location people completely doing thief work. People don't say your bad views to the community people.

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Yes, it's still stealing mate.
But nothing to worry in real life.

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Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 05:32:05 PM

Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.

I think that is not stealing bitcoins because you got it with luck. I mean well, yes though that BTC is also someone else's money but you don't know if that is real btc or lost btc ( sometimes sent to wrong address ) so maybe you are doing a favor by bringing more btc in market.

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I guess that stealing Bitcoin is illegal because if they do not belong to you then it is still considered stealing even if people think that Bitcoin is illegal as well.
So yes stealing Bitcoin is still not legal but there is not much that can be done if it happens.

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yes there is no doubt about this. stealing of bitcoin is illegal, just like stealing of other currencies are illegal.

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Quote from: super stars on August 02, 2016, 05:07:55 AM

yes stealing of bitcoin is illegal, just like stealing of other good,

Exactly, stealing of bitcoin is illegal but I am thinking of how you are going to steal bitcoin from other bitcoin people or it is just a matter of scamming them or if not by forcing to beg them to give you bitcoins. But in any ways of stealing it is always been against the law of the people. And it is not good at all to steal any kind of goods.

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yes stealing of bitcoin is illegal, just like stealing of other good,

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Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 05:32:05 PM

Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.

stealing of course illegal. but if what you say it, I think not a theft, when you generate a new address and in it there bitcoin belongs to someone else. but if you know the owner, it may be better to restore it. if you do not know the owner, meaning it belongs to you, and not considered as stealing.

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Quote from: Alanay on July 16, 2016, 05:32:05 PM

Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.

From your topic you already said stealing and you are still asking whether stealing of bitcoin is legal, please it's very illegal to steal any man's property be it bitcoin or not

I think it is not form of stealing because bitcoin wallet not gives you already owned bitcoin address they always gives a unique bitcoin address if your generated address has bitcoin already you are lucky but do not think the bitcoin included have owned already.

That's even beyond lucky to receive and address that is pre-owned by someone else. That is actually a glitch and it would be needing a fix as soon as possible. More over bitcoin addresses are designed to be unique always at an incredible amount.

I believe thats also, its a very rare situation which a newly generated address have already a balance or owned already by someone else. Its definitely a glitch or bug by the system. Thats very an unusual thing to happen in generating new address which to be unique.

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I think OP just wanted to justify that Bitcoin Stealing is not illegal, but he dont know that stealing is a stealing which means you are taking others things without getting their permission. Whether it is bitcoin or anything, which ever is taken without permission of the owner is considered as Illegal and as per law it is punishable, but in bitcoin it is hard to find the thief/hacker who have stolen or hacked the wallet and took the bitcoins from other wallet address, as it dont have the details about the holder of that wallet.

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