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Quote from: jlaw007 on January 31, 2018, 11:32:31 PM

If you studied Ec, yes, a tax is theft unless the full amount is actually spent back into the people or improvement of the country, it would go back to the cycle.

I must have missed that in my Economics degree :-)
Theft is usually thought of as the unauthorized taking of property from another... I don't like taxation that much, but my Govt is authorised to take it, so I'm saying no to it being theft.

Crazygreek

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Sure! Why should we pay for house what we bought already to another guys? Taxation is just a theft the become a law and we can't do anything to this unfotunatly.

scaramanga1337

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taxation sometimes is a theft or at least there is a social injustice.........big money can easily avoid paying tax.... and its not punished because in most cases their action is legal............e.g by globalization (off-shore etc.) ...small money or in other words.. the average people.. can not ..they only live in one country...most of the people have no possibility to avoid taxes ............

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 31, 2018, 11:10:36 PM

Quote from: September11Myth on January 31, 2018, 05:53:11 PM

I think this is probably one of the brightest answer to this question. If you don't agree on any of the ways your tax-money is spent, then it is theft. For example: if 90%+ of your tax-money is spent to bomb people in Afghanistan so that an oil pipeline can be built and someone can profit by Afghanistan turning into the producer of 90% of the world's heroin production, then your tax-money is not paying for the services you are supposed to receive by the state. Well, this IS theft.

The real reason for invading Afghanistan was to take control of the global heroin production. After the NATO invaded Afghanistan and established control, huge quantities of heroin was shipped towards Iran and Russia, resulting in hundreds of thousands of deaths there. The CIA achieved its objective of killing huge numbers of Iranians and Russians, without spending a single bullet.

Yes, but actually the right formulation would be: "to resume and take back control". Afghanistan had been transformed by the CIA in the number one producer of heroin in the eighties, when the USA was financing the mujadeen to fight Soviet invasion. Later, the Talibans had almost eradicated Opium production, which was resumed after that NATO had invaded and taken control of the country. Of course, there are no coincidences.

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If you studied Ec, yes, a tax is theft unless the full amount is actually spent back into the people or improvement of the country, it would go back to the cycle.

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Quote from: September11Myth on January 31, 2018, 05:53:11 PM

I think this is probably one of the brightest answer to this question. If you don't agree on any of the ways your tax-money is spent, then it is theft. For example: if 90%+ of your tax-money is spent to bomb people in Afghanistan so that an oil pipeline can be built and someone can profit by Afghanistan turning into the producer of 90% of the world's heroin production, then your tax-money is not paying for the services you are supposed to receive by the state. Well, this IS theft.

The real reason for invading Afghanistan was to take control of the global heroin production. After the NATO invaded Afghanistan and established control, huge quantities of heroin was shipped towards Iran and Russia, resulting in hundreds of thousands of deaths there. The CIA achieved its objective of killing huge numbers of Iranians and Russians, without spending a single bullet.

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In Alabama for example, an agent of the state tax requires that taxpayers fill out a detailed questionnaire to help identify post-tax better. Alabama also require employers to send form W-2 much earlier to try and compensate for the delay. In the end, if there is a file suspicious caught, there will be an investigation detailed above claims can cause a delay is the longest.

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Quote from: miki77miki on December 28, 2016, 07:24:52 PM

Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs

In some ways, taxes are used for infrastructure for buildings, highways, hospitals, schools, etc, that can help a country. If taxes are used in a good way, there will be no problem but in the government, there are some who steal these taxes and use them for their own good and profit.

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I do not mind taxes if they are put to good use. One thing I hate about it though is burdening the rich more. As said before, you can not make the rich rich by making the rich poor. They took the easy way out of things, but threw out more money for a while. Something as simple as a traffic light attracts millions of dollars a year just to have fun.

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We cannot say that especially taxation is the backbone of the government. Government cannot live without it. Theft can be if politician steal money from the people and theft is also when you avoid paying taxes because you are cheating from the people's money.

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Quote from: BADecker on December 28, 2016, 10:31:17 PM

Taxation might be justified, but what makes the justification? It is only justified when you volunteer, and then it is not real taxation.

The only way taxation is justified as taxation, is when you get a receipt as to where your money was spent... with open records so you and everyone else can see where all the money went.

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I think this is probably one of the brightest answer to this question. If you don't agree on any of the ways your tax-money is spent, then it is theft. For example: if 90%+ of your tax-money is spent to bomb people in Afghanistan so that an oil pipeline can be built and someone can profit by Afghanistan turning into the producer of 90% of the world's heroin production, then your tax-money is not paying for the services you are supposed to receive by the state. Well, this IS theft.

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Quote from: MattPumpkin on January 27, 2018, 03:25:41 PM

No. It’s necessary for any functioning society and always has been.

OK. A certain amount of taxes are required to make the society functional. But how much can be this required amount? We have crazy taxations, such as the 75% income tax in France. On top of the 75% tax, they have to pay GST and VAT on the remaining amount as well. In short, 90% of the earnings go up in the form of taxes.

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Is taxation theft?
Taxation to an extent is a theft.
According to Microsoft® Encarta® 2009. © 1993-2008 Microsoft Corporation, Tax, is defined inter alia as:
1. strain: a strain or heavy demand
2. money paid to government: an amount of money levied by a government on its citizens and used to run the government, the country, a state, a county, or a municipality
3. charge paid by members: an amount charged to members of a club or organization to be used for expenses.
Tax is created when there is dearth or want of resources as to cushioned the returning effect to humanity as a result of the aforesaid lack.
Consequently, however, it is not mandatory that tax should be imposed on the people; if there are considerable available resources, otherwise it turns out to be a theft.
Consider the individual labourers in the labour sector which is part of nation’s economic providers through their services and in the bounty of resources, they are imposed of tax payment.

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With the ever increase of taxes in my country and the endless
reforms and promises we get from politicians on campaigns and election
days. I think somehow it's petty theft. I hate the idea of it, I pay taxes so
one day I may benefit from it and that I may see the worth of where my tax money
goes. Sadly there are more times you'll consider taxation as theft due to the
existence of these corrupt officials seated in power.

MattPumpkin

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No. It’s necessary for any functioning society and always has been.

BitcoinPaw

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It is theft that supported and protected by goverment of almost every country. Taxes is necessery but amounts nowdays is really impressive and i can't understand why should i pay that much.

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Quote from: miki77miki on December 28, 2016, 07:24:52 PM

Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs

each one of us is reasonable expressing his or her own opinion and it is the right of every human being, which however we must look longer with a very serious problem

Abil_Salman

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Maybe you don't realize it when you need a day facility that day comes from tax
Examples include: public schools, roads, hospitals
unless you don't need all the facilities that you can feel in the RAID by the tax

gmughals

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Taxation is not theft.This is part of the social contract. because citizens have agreed to pay taxes. whereby the citizens agree to pay taxes and obey the laws, in return for the government's protection by using government services. such as National defense, courts,Hospital's, school, Police, Road's , fire fitting system.I believes these should be achieved by some type of taxation.

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No, I never viewed taxation as a form of theft. It is not payment for staying in a country but a responsibility of everyone who is capable of creating wealth through work for the benefit of the people and improvement and maintenance of public services.

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