Topic: Is taxation theft? - page 15. (Read 75978 times)

For me taxation is not a theft but it is rather a  way to help our government.Even in the time of Jesus Christ  he also  paid tax for He said give to Ceasar what is due to Ceasar.

For me it is not.... the tax system in every country is good... The government create it for the benifits of their country... Tax are imposed to make every country developed and also to protect the local industry and  also it helps to ensure the progress of every country by means of social welfare,  new infrastructure personal utilities and a lots...  Because of tax this things are possible...

No i don't think taxation is a theft because those money won't go away or go inside of someone else pocket, it will be used for the public purpose like building hospital, school,....

Taxation is the backbone of our government. Tax is the funds collected by the government to finance their projects for the development of its country and for the people living under its sovereign. Stealing money from the government is a theft, but taxing its people is never a theft.

So many of these peoples' minds are going to be blown away when they start seeing seasteads running their governments with no forced taxation.

"But that's a special case!" they'll say "they don't have a huge military like my country!" they'll say. So many excuses they will create to hold dear to the idea that has been drilled into their brains their whole lives that taxation is necessary for government.

Propaganda since you are a child with your first coin. Spread by our fellow citizens no less.

What does Government have to do with taxation? Nothing.

Take a look at any corporation. Consider General Motors. Who do they tax? In the slightest ways they might do some taxation. Yet, they are a government. They are organized. They have leaders. They have followers. But they don't have taxation, and they are very successful.

Their employees get paid. If they don't like the pay, they can form a union and get the company to change. Or they can quit. But you can't do this with Government and taxation.

And car buyers pay for what they get. They don't throw a bunch of money at GM and get all kinds of things they don't want. Rather, they check out the vehicle and buy the options they want, and they don't get the options they don't pay for, but if options they don't want come as a package, they know about it, and go elsewhere if they don't like it.

It isn't this way with Government. Government takes your money, and you don't know if you are getting anything in return for it or not. Sure, Government says you are getting something. But you can't tell for sure. Maybe the thing you don't want is Government. But if you WANT Government, why not pay for the things that you want rather than getting all kinds of stuff you don't want, and never knowing if you are getting the best.

Buy what you want in Government. Forget what you don't want. Stop getting funds stolen from you for use in things that don't benefit you or anybody except to line the pockets of pedophile politicians.

In the US most people use more government paid benefits than the taxes they pay each year... the majority of people do not know nor believe this lol

I believe it's not. Paying taxes is our duty and responsibility as a member of the society. It is best to do our role. However, we must put in mind that what we are paying are for the own good of the every membersof the society. It is still for the development of the society and it's people.

Tax collection isn't burglary, I know numerous individuals here would love a world without government however the fact of the matter is regardless of a portion of the things you loathe about government, it enables society to work. Another approach to take a gander at tax assessment is to consider it as a lease for living in the general public you live in, nobody would state its burglary to pay lease on an auto/house however for reasons unknown individuals assume diversely when its the legislature doing it.

But with taxes, you don't know what you are buying. If you simply bought what you wanted, you would get what you wanted, and you wouldn't be paying for all kinds of junk you don't want. Government could orchestrate the buying of the things you want in bulk. They could do it without taxes. With taxes you don't know how much they take out and stick in their pocket on the side.

I am not thinking in this way. Many countires buying gas or making electricity for their people and they should pay for it to make a chance for government to buy everything necessary again.

Tax always reminds me that I don't really own a thing in these world. I can't even call my profession a property or my own because of that tax. Tax it's not just theft, it's a unfairness of mankind.

If a person who doesn't want to pay taxes is smart enough, he can figure out ways to avoid taxes.

Some people welcome taxes. Many donate more than taxes to Government. After all, you can't pay more than a certain amount and be honest on the tax form at the same time. Government won't let you.

The robbery comes when people who aren't smart enough, and don't want to pay taxes, are forced into it.

What all this means is that in some cases the outcome is robbery, and in other cases it isn't.

Same said forced sex. Some women welcome it (they fight it, but they like the fight) and some don't. In some cases it is rape and in some it isn't.

Taxes is the base for any kind of gobeerment, what you really should ask is what are he goberment doing with the taxes you pay to improve your life and country. I dont think is a theft is necesary for the country.

So...the outcome is what determines if the act is theft or not.

Got it.

Could you please go tell the people in this thread that it is the outcome of the act and not the act itself that matters? They are a bit confused.

Is forcing a woman to have sex considered rape if the woman has an orgasm?

Not all people who collect our taxes are corrupt. Just some of them. Some of our taxes goes to different departments that improves our society while some of it are being corrupted by the government

I think it is not totally theft but there are some (people who handle our taxes) that abuse their authority. I feel like they are not putting ALL of our taxes in the right way. I think corruption is always present in taxes.

I do not think that taxation is a theft. Because I know that our government used it for some livelihood programs in order to support and help the poor people to learn some things that may help them to earn money. I can also see the Infrastructure improvement in our area which are from the taxes of the people. People money goes back to people.

You will not believe the amount of people in this thread that disagree with you:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-forcing-a-woman-to-have-sex-considered-rape-if-the-woman-has-an-orgasm-3114570

One person even says:
Countries that recognise theft outside of the pre-defined parameters of statutory theft will probably focus on the issue of consent/agreement. Hence, in many countries it will not be possible for government agents to tax a person and it not be considered theft.

Are you getting what you paid for?

Do you even know what you wanted to buy?

Make it a purchase rather than taxation so you get the things that you are buying, don't have to support the things you don't want, and keep Government more honest that way.