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Quote from: rhodelmabanal on March 23, 2023, 07:47:42 AM

In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

I think, everything you convey has its own position. Yes. War only leaves the less good and endless. But, if you just keep blaming the government it feels less ethical. at least there are independent efforts from us to also take responsibility as citizens to actively participate, seek opportunities, and support the government's efforts for economic growth and per capita income later.

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Quote from: rhodelmabanal on March 23, 2023, 07:47:42 AM

In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

Actually, it is not only in your country. I am sure that this case is happen in the many countries, including of mine. So, all effort from the goverment of any country to resolve proverty will not effectively worked if the society do not support it. Both of these party should have to move together for the changes.
You can see how the japan' s goverment and their citizens support each other to get better life massively, any country should look up to the japan' s goverment and their citizen.

It's true that we can't just rely on the government without the support of the people,
a program or policy will run well if each party can support each other,
besides that poverty is also not a problem that can be handled easily.

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Quote from: rhodelmabanal on March 23, 2023, 07:47:42 AM

In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

It depends on the country. There are countries that very rich that can sustain the needs of their people, If a country is rich they could possibly end poverty. But if the country belong to a third world countries, the government will not be able to end up poverty it would be harder for them because the income of the government is not sufficient to cover up the needs of its people. Some of the reasons are the continuous growth of the population, the high prices of the necessities needed by the people because of the inflation. For the third world countries it is much better if the people and government will help hand and in hand to be able to end poverty even little by little.

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Quote from: rhodelmabanal on March 23, 2023, 07:47:42 AM

In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

Actually, it is not only in your country. I am sure that this case is happen in the many countries, including of mine. So, all effort from the goverment of any country to resolve proverty will not effectively worked if the society do not support it. Both of these party should have to move together for the changes.
You can see how the japan' s goverment and their citizens support each other to get better life massively, any country should look up to the japan' s goverment and their citizen.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on July 05, 2023, 04:07:46 PM

No government in the world can completely eradicate poverty from the system but it can be reduced to the barest minimum. Poverty eradication is not just an issue only to be handled by the government alone, rather it is a general issue that requires collective efforts or all hands on deck to achieve such a goal, it needs individual contribution, Non-governmental organizations NGOs and with the help of the government itself it will become easier to achieve.

Well that's right. We are individually responsible for our own lives. But in general then all have their respective roles. And the government is not a determinant that can make people rich. But if the government can manage the country's natural resources and distribute the profits to all public facilities such as free schools, free health care and various other conveniences for its citizens. Even like in Arab countries where it is said that even school children there are given pocket money from the government. So, if the government is like that and is also honest with the people, then I think the people will be helped to more easily improve their standard of living. As in Arab countries that are fertile with petroleum. we see that there are many rich people there. because there the government really pays attention to the interests of its people. and the level of corruption is not high in that country.

because usually the level of corruption in a country is very high, it can be seen from the declining welfare of its people.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on July 05, 2023, 04:07:46 PM

No government in the world can completely eradicate poverty from the system but it can be reduced to the barest minimum. Poverty eradication is not just an issue only to be handled by the government alone, rather it is a general issue that requires collective efforts or all hands on deck to achieve such a goal, it needs individual contribution, Non-governmental organizations NGOs and with the help of the government itself it will become easier to achieve.

Citizens should realize this on which poverty is a global problem on which it isnt something that could be solved out easily.Therefore, it would really be just that wise that you should really be that sensible
on taking your own step on making yourself way more progressive rather than on relying yourself on what the government do really provide on because in overall situation that we are facing specially that inflation then it is something that makes our life even more struggling and difficult. This is why it would really be wise that you should really be that mindful about finding other income source aside from your day job. Invest if possible and make business to make your living way more better since you are generating other source of income. Even myself dont mind about governments actions or opportunity that they are giving but rather going solo on what are possible options that i could take.

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No government in the world can completely eradicate poverty from the system but it can be reduced to the barest minimum. Poverty eradication is not just an issue only to be handled by the government alone, rather it is a general issue that requires collective efforts or all hands on deck to achieve such a goal, it needs individual contribution, Non-governmental organizations NGOs and with the help of the government itself it will become easier to achieve.

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I'm not really sure if the country can end poverty in the country, if it can, there should be no poverty now.
Well, maybe in certain countries, this is possible, countries that just have a smaller population than they should, countries that are already very developed, and have good resources.
However, for countries that are still developing or lacking, this will be very difficult and may not be possible. what they can do is help their people live better and more decently, by providing sufficient employment opportunities with appropriate salaries. but the reality is that up to now, not everything can be fulfilled and it is the people themselves who have to work alone and support themselves to survive. Moreover, if there are many corruptors in that country, then this will be impossible to do.

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Quote from: Ever-young on July 05, 2023, 06:49:03 AM

I believe the both the government and it's citizen have their own role to play in other to reduce poverty in their country.
The government will first of all make provision for good infrastructure, which includes medical facilities, educational center, good road and all of that. When at least this above is being made available by the government, the country be a center of attraction for investor and immigrants. If the citizens are to start something on their own like a private business and all of that, there will be people around to patronize their small business which will help it grow to the next level, and when their is an increase in demand then entrepreneurs can make room for employment which will help uplift few people from unemployment and at thesame time it has pull few people from poverty.

Government and citizens do have their respective roles in this matter. And it is true that if the Government provides good facilities for its citizens then this can also encourage its citizens to escape poverty. For example, if a country focuses on advancing the natural tourism sector in its country. then residents around the tourism area will indeed be helped economically. because residents can open businesses in the tourism sector. and even opening a shop near the tourism sector can give shop owners multiple advantages. because in tourism areas we can already see that the price of necessities sold in shops is always much more expensive than in places far from tourist spots.

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Quote from: SmartCharpa on July 05, 2023, 12:45:26 AM

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Many people are too dependent and blame the government when poverty occurs, most countries have made maximum efforts to overcome poverty, for example are free education for up to 15 years, scholarships to other countries, training to the provision of business capital, of course not everyone can succeed to overcome poverty.

I haven't noticed anything wrong with governments when we blame them for the state of the economy in the nation. It is our responsibility to hold them accountable for it, and it is also their responsibility to take care of the country. While I agree that not everyone will be able to escape poverty, if most governments are unable to provide jobs for educated youth, how do you suppose that sort of nation won't be holding them accountable? It's okay for citizens to criticize the government, but we shouldn't depend on them. Having a second source of income is the best plan of getting out of poverty.

The government plays an important role in poverty alleviation, and if a country has a high poverty rate, it is the government's fault. But we shouldn't blame them entirely either, if you're poor because you're lazy, you can't blame the government for not helping you. The government will provide jobs and opportunities, but you need to grab it fast, you can't expect them to come and teach you how to make money in detail.

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I believe the both the government and it's citizen have their own role to play in other to reduce poverty in their country.
The government will first of all make provision for good infrastructure, which includes medical facilities, educational center, good road and all of that. When at least this above is being made available by the government, the country be a center of attraction for investor and immigrants. If the citizens are to start something on their own like a private business and all of that, there will be people around to patronize their small business which will help it grow to the next level, and when their is an increase in demand then entrepreneurs can make room for employment which will help uplift few people from unemployment and at thesame time it has pull few people from poverty.

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Quote from: Mario Yamasaki on June 13, 2023, 11:46:25 PM

Many people are too dependent and blame the government when poverty occurs, most countries have made maximum efforts to overcome poverty, for example are free education for up to 15 years, scholarships to other countries, training to the provision of business capital, of course not everyone can succeed to overcome poverty.

I haven't noticed anything wrong with governments when we blame them for the state of the economy in the nation. It is our responsibility to hold them accountable for it, and it is also their responsibility to take care of the country. While I agree that not everyone will be able to escape poverty, if most governments are unable to provide jobs for educated youth, how do you suppose that sort of nation won't be holding them accountable? It's okay for citizens to criticize the government, but we shouldn't depend on them. Having a second source of income is the best plan of getting out of poverty.

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This is not only the case in your country, considering the current situation, the same situation prevails in most of the developing countries. Not only the increase in the price of oil, but also the price of all the daily necessities have been increased a lot. In our country the price of fuel oil has increased, the price of edible oil has increased, the price of various spices has increased several times, the price of new mobile phones has increased, the price of clothes has increased, the price of electricity has increased. In the situation then how people are living now according to the previous market rate salary. I have seen news in different countries that the opposition parties and people are doing a lot of agitation to bring down the government because everything is now beyond the purchasing power of the people. When the government is asked about this, they give a simple answer that oil is imported from foreign countries, the price of oil in foreign countries has increased, so the price of oil in our country is high.

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Quote from: nesty on July 04, 2023, 07:38:27 PM

Quote from: rhodelmabanal on March 23, 2023, 07:47:42 AM

In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

I think the government should provide the support through polices and programs to be able to reduce poverty rates like social welfare programs and the likes. Also the government is the one who mandates the minimum salary rates in a given country as well as the retail price of basic commodities. If the government would evaluate the current situations of the people they can upgrade the minimum wage and also to regulate the prices of basic commodities. But of course we as individuals if the government is slow in acting upon the needs of the people we should find other means to be able to survive poverty because if we will just wait for the government our lives will not move forward.

Of course the government in every country thinks about this, but it's not easy, maybe only a few people are corrupt and think of themselves so that many obstacles occur, but basically I believe the government really cares about its people to reduce poverty.
However, the common people also cannot fully rely on the government, there must be synchronization to get out of the poverty line by trying and also efforts to make policies from the government that favors the small people to be able to minimize poverty.

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Quote from: rhodelmabanal on March 23, 2023, 07:47:42 AM

In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

I think the government should provide the support through polices and programs to be able to reduce poverty rates like social welfare programs and the likes. Also the government is the one who mandates the minimum salary rates in a given country as well as the retail price of basic commodities. If the government would evaluate the current situations of the people they can upgrade the minimum wage and also to regulate the prices of basic commodities. But of course we as individuals if the government is slow in acting upon the needs of the people we should find other means to be able to survive poverty because if we will just wait for the government our lives will not move forward.

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Quote from: robattfield on June 16, 2023, 12:30:58 AM

Blaming the government or any group does not solve the problem. Instead, we need to find ways to cooperate and come up with effective solutions to reduce poverty and improve people's lives.

The problem is that there are parties that are interested in keeping poverty in the world. In order not to go far, we can remember that we live in a consumer society that cultivates and exalts the acquisition of as many goods as possible, their replacement with new models and constant updating. In order for these goods to be produced in such a huge quantity, it is necessary that it is profitable for the producer. And the greatest percentage of profit is obtained when the cost of producing a product, especially labor, is as low as possible. Cheap labor in countries with weak economies is the basis of the modern consumer society. Now the question arises: are all parties, including governments, civil organisations, the population itself, ready to join forces and cooperate to contribute to the elimination of poverty in the world, if this requires abandoning their usual and comfortable way of life?

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This is a common problem not of any one party, poverty reduction is a complex issue and cannot be solved by just one government or one person. That depends on the contributions of all parties, from the government, businesses and the community. The government is responsible for making policies and programs to reduce poverty, create job opportunities and increase people's income. However, it also requires collaboration with organizations and businesses to bring about greater impact.

Regarding the situation in your country, rising basic demand prices can be influenced by many factors, including the wars in Ukraine and Russia. However, to solve this problem, a certain strategy is needed to increase production and bring to market more products, improve skills and enhance the competitiveness of enterprises in the market. The government also needs to create a more favorable investment environment to attract domestic and foreign investment. Blaming the government or any group does not solve the problem. Instead, we need to find ways to cooperate and come up with effective solutions to reduce poverty and improve people's lives.

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Quote from: rhodelmabanal on March 23, 2023, 07:47:42 AM

In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

You can't blame those people, because those politicians did a promise to them but most of time are always been neglected if they are already seated. Government is the one who should act first whenever there's a crisis going on to their country, if they really care, because people doesn't have the power to move their country, only the government does. Though, what's always happening is that the government wants are always the priority, so the country always end up suffering from their lack of proper governance and doing their job.

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Quote from: Alpha Marine on June 14, 2023, 03:50:52 PM

Quote from: Mario Yamasaki on June 13, 2023, 11:46:25 PM

Many people are too dependent and blame the government when poverty occurs, most countries have made maximum efforts to overcome poverty, for example are free education for up to 15 years, scholarships to other countries, training to the provision of business capital, of course not everyone can succeed to overcome poverty.

You're only looking at things from one perspective if you think this way. A bad government makes it very difficult for people to break out of poverty. What's the point of free education when there are no jobs at the end of the day? Do you think it will be people who are starting from nothing to establish their own business when inflation keeps getting to a new ATH every year? No electricity, security, or proper funding.
No matter how we look at it, the government of a country will determine the amount or percentage of poor people in that particular country. A good government reduces poverty, while a bad government increases poverty.

This is like now that there are a ton of graduates but they can't find a job because there are no job openings since we came from the pandemic and the businesses are just starting out. It should be a balance; providing education for free is good, but also generating more jobs is also good, but the pay is also reasonable because there are a ton of people now going abroad and venturing there because the pay is low, like the nurses here, which leads to them going abroad, and the country right now is needing more nurses, but they don't prefer here in our country because of the pay.

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Quote from: Unbunplease on April 17, 2023, 06:35:50 PM

I agree with you. The rich are unlikely to make it so that there are no poor (after all, it is the lack of money that makes the poor work for the rich). And the poor, if he suddenly becomes rich, will be forced to accept the rules of the game, and will himself do everything to keep the poor. Yes, he will do charity, but it will be within the system, with the expectation that the number of poor people will not decrease (and will not increase much).

Indeed, it is undeniable that correlation exists between poverty and wealth within an economic system. However there are numerous wealthy individuals who actively engage in social works and make substantial contribution for humanitarian causes all over the world. An exemplary figure is Bill Gates who has dedicated significant portion of his wealth to supporting those who desperately need it.

In summary, both the poor and the wealthy are integral part of our society, we need to make efforts to create an environment, that safeguards interests of both groups..

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