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First, economic sanction.

If that doesn't work, which doesn't work based on Russia responds, then military confrontation.
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get a life.  ebola aint shitt.  get somehting real about which to worry,  you with no life.  get a life.

crazy dubm

I just raed the article 3 times.
It is ****amazing !!!!!! You claim modern russia has no ties with the former red plague but yet:

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NATO has been deploying its forces to its closest territories to the Russian border to counter the alleged threat posed by Russia to the former Soviet Baltic republics.

Should I highlight it in bold and red to see the communist propaganda there?
They haven't used the name of the countries even once , they stated ... those were russian territories that are supposed to be ours.

Who is bringing back the past? Seems like the the Soviet Union is back at full power.



No they haven't - they stated the facts - those countries ARE former Soviet Republics. The keyword here is: former. By the way, politicians from those particular republics were pretty high up in the Soviet hierarchy, deciding the fate of both SU and Russia. So?

If we talk about former.....
Where is the Lithuanian border?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c4/LithuaniaHistory.png/800px-LithuaniaHistory.png


Clinging to the past too much ?  Why not revert to this past ?

ps.
Would love to see your answer on the living in Norway question...


legendary
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I just raed the article 3 times.
It is ****amazing !!!!!! You claim modern russia has no ties with the former red plague but yet:

Russia has as much ties to the red plague, as Georgia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Belarus and later Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, etc. As a matter of fact, Russia had less statehood and less say in the running of its own affairs under the Soviet yoke, than the other republics. Notably Ukraine was one of the most influential republics in the post-Stalin time.

The map: Yes, proving my point and the current wording coming from Lithuania - Lithuania was always the warring, conquering, aggressive type. Maybe you should check the map of Kievan Rus?

As for Norway... and being in YOUR side... I'll be on the side of reason. In Hitler's Germany, there was a large portion of population that did not succumb to the madness and were working against Nazism. Elder Norwegians still remember Soviet Union liberating them town-for-town from the North and to Oslo and are thankful.

Now. An interesting aside on-topic.

Just read in the PS in this article:
http://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2014/08/30/war-or-peace-damning-eye-witness-video-of-mh17-false-flag-plus-strange-failures-of-russian-rockets/
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US congress (lc deliberate -LR) just adopted a new, extremely provocative and bellicose law called “The Russian Aggression Prevention Act” or RAPA. I am wondering, when will the world adopt “The US Aggression Prevention Act”? I have been saying all along that it is up to us to tip the scale towards peace. I wouldn’t hope that Washington would choose peace of its own free will.

PS: It you won't allow yourself to be swayed by propaganda and be sent to the Eastern Front as cannon fodder on a trumped-up pretext of stopping "Russian aggression" (and liberating Moscow from Russians in much the same way as West-Ukrainians are being sent to "liberate" Donetsk and Lugansk from the Russian population), then I will be on your side...
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I just raed the article 3 times.
It is ****amazing !!!!!! You claim modern russia has no ties with the former red plague but yet:

Quote
NATO has been deploying its forces to its closest territories to the Russian border to counter the alleged threat posed by Russia to the former Soviet Baltic republics.

Should I highlight it in bold and red to see the communist propaganda there?
They haven't used the name of the countries even once , they stated ... those were russian territories that are supposed to be ours.

Who is bringing back the past? Seems like the the Soviet Union is back at full power.



No they haven't - they stated the facts - those countries ARE former Soviet Republics. The keyword here is: former. By the way, politicians from those particular republics were pretty high up in the Soviet hierarchy, deciding the fate of both SU and Russia. So?

If we talk about former.....
Where is the Lithuanian border?




Clinging to the past too much ?  Why not revert to this past ?

ps.
Would love to see your answer on the living in Norway question...

legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1014
I just raed the article 3 times.
It is ****amazing !!!!!! You claim modern russia has no ties with the former red plague but yet:

Quote
NATO has been deploying its forces to its closest territories to the Russian border to counter the alleged threat posed by Russia to the former Soviet Baltic republics.

Should I highlight it in bold and red to see the communist propaganda there?
They haven't used the name of the countries even once , they stated ... those were russian territories that are supposed to be ours.

Who is bringing back the past? Seems like the the Soviet Union is back at full power.



No they haven't - they stated the facts - those countries ARE former Soviet Republics. The keyword here is: former. By the way, politicians from those particular republics were pretty high up in the Soviet hierarchy, deciding the fate of both SU and Russia. So?
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I just raed the article 3 times.
It is ****amazing !!!!!! You claim modern russia has no ties with the former red plague but yet:

Quote
NATO has been deploying its forces to its closest territories to the Russian border to counter the alleged threat posed by Russia to the former Soviet Baltic republics.

Should I highlight it in bold and red to see the communist propaganda there?
They haven't used the name of the countries even once , they stated ... those were russian territories that are supposed to be ours.

Who is bringing back the past? Seems like the the Soviet Union is back at full power.

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Merit: 501
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Europe wants no war it's you russians who can't really stay in your damn country for more than a decade.
You want another ww3 , probably you will get it.

And after all , didn't you say a while ago that you live in the EU? It's going to be funny for you , more than for me.

In the end , if Russia really wants war it will get it , and no matter how stupid it is probably i'll be back in the turret of a tank and end up dead just because some guy who has an inferiority complex (you know about his shoes don't you? ) wants to show that he is the lider or a "nuclear power".


Europe wants no war? Well, let me tell you, Russians want no war either. And unlike "some" Europeans and Americans, Russians stay in their own country. People who live in the South-East of Ukraine ARE Russian, who've leaved there for hundreds of years and just happened to be split off from Russia by an arbitrary decision by a known Russophobe - Lenin. What do you say about Norwegians sending tanks to Lithuania, Americans marching across Romania and Poland, Polish troops in Romania. Shouldn't all those countries stay damn put within their borders?

I don't live in EU, I live in Norway, that voted TWICE against joining EU, but unlike Ukraine avoided a "democratic correction" in the form of genocide of people who don't want to be a part of EU.

Russia ends war. Unless you invade Russia first, you'll not see Russian troops in your country, however badly Poroshenko and the Belgians want it.

Yes, Belgians. You force me to resort to the same form of generalisation that you do towards the Soviet Union. Burssels wants war and those crazy Belgians have occupied all Europe. At least during the Soviet time, Romani was an independent country, not part of SU. Now Romania is under the yoke of the Belgians, fully integrated in the EU.

You see how absurd the above can be. If Soviet Union = Russia, then EU = Belgium.

Norway is part of NATO.

And if this Russian news is of any trust ....as you claim
http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20140830/192472196/Norway-Sends-Tanks-to-Latvian-Russian-Border--Reports.html

Seems like you're going to be on OUR side Wink.

And besides , why aren't we supposed to send tanks to our allies and to keep our armies on our borders?
The russians are doing the same. They had a "drill" with 30 000 troops 20 km from the border of Ukraine. Probably half of the army went lost at that moment. Glonass sucks after all.

About the rest let me call it straight "bullshit".' Protecting it's citizens my ass , those guys are Ukrainians not Russians. they are of Russian origin and nothing else. If they want to live in Russia the door was open if they want to stay then they stay in Ukraine and they are Ukrainians.

Russia didn't give a FUCK for them for 25 years but as soon as they felt like losing the control over them they invaded.

Should also Russia invade Uk to protect the 150 000 Russian living there?
Should Russia invade Norway to protect your freedom?

Neither is threatened but they should do it just because they are a nuclear power and their el lidero has some shoe height complex.

At least in our case we know the drill. The Russian army has come uninvited 14 times in two centuries in our country. Nothing new.

Btw of your claim about independence , was Czechoslovakia also free?

ps.
Also , one little thing that bothers me...
If Russia is so peaceful , if the Russian economy is so great , if you were born there , if Norway is going to be hit by russian sanctions , if europe is doomed... why are you still living in Norway?







legendary
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Europe wants no war it's you russians who can't really stay in your damn country for more than a decade.
You want another ww3 , probably you will get it.

And after all , didn't you say a while ago that you live in the EU? It's going to be funny for you , more than for me.

In the end , if Russia really wants war it will get it , and no matter how stupid it is probably i'll be back in the turret of a tank and end up dead just because some guy who has an inferiority complex (you know about his shoes don't you? ) wants to show that he is the lider or a "nuclear power".


Europe wants no war? Well, let me tell you, Russians want no war either. And unlike "some" Europeans and Americans, Russians stay in their own country. People who live in the South-East of Ukraine ARE Russian, who've leaved there for hundreds of years and just happened to be split off from Russia by an arbitrary decision by a known Russophobe - Lenin. What do you say about Norwegians sending tanks to Lithuania, Americans marching across Romania and Poland, Polish troops in Romania. Shouldn't all those countries stay damn put within their borders?

Alas, I see your posts deteriorating to the the level of stigma, russophobia and hatred as touted my the propaganda machine of the West. It's a pity seeing you succumbing to it. I noticed your reference to Putin, and one of those stigmas that sprung up in the Western forums/media. If you were still thinking clearly, you'd notice that the actions of Putin speak of the opposite, as what Western media wants everyone to believe. He's shown and is still showing a huge degree of calm, level-headedness and diplomacy in the face of overt aggressions (so far, luckily, only verbal) and provocations that are coming with an ever-increasing frequency.

I don't live in EU, I live in Norway, that voted TWICE against joining EU, but unlike Ukraine avoided a "democratic correction" in the form of genocide of people who don't want to be a part of EU.

Russia ends wars. Unless you invade Russia first, you'll not see Russian troops in your country, however badly Poroshenko and the Belgians want it.

Yes, Belgians. You force me to resort to the same form of generalisation that you do towards the Soviet Union. Brussels wants war and those crazy Belgians have occupied all Europe. At least during the Soviet time, Romani was an independent country, not part of SU. Now Romania is under the yoke of the Belgians, fully integrated in the EU.

You see how absurd the above can be. If Soviet Union = Russia, then EU = Belgium. I'll try to use this consequently in a few future posts, referencing your predisposition to generalisation. Wink
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Just because your definition of entropy in an astrophysical context
In my universe entropy is a measure of disorder. I gave you an example and received your adolf related projection instead of answer. Are you going to deny this?

doesn't agree with MY use in a political context, I can't help you out of your ignorance.
Yeah, you can't say anything in your own discussion and it makes me ignorant person. Right.

I feel bad for the ex-soviet educational system. This is the reason why their weapons SUCK and they fail in battle against equal forces.
Oh, another pathetic attempt to change the subject. This won't work, don't even think about that. I won't let you go so easy way. Smiley

Shit, RUSSIA invaded UKRAINE and you are still sitting here denying it.

The title of this thread implies the west is invading russia, whereas its the ex-commie fascists that are committing the CRIME.
There is nothing to deny or explain since all these reports are backed by statements from ukrainian authorities only. Even OSCE refused to confirm your fantasy. If you won't try to use DigitalGlobe fantasy as a proof, of coourse.

A word of advice: DOUBLE UP on BODYBAGS!
Why should I think that your blah blah blah, bullshit and size=16pt are worth anything?

Explain to me HOW russia and russians aren't just a bunch of common FUCKING MURDERERS?
We will help you to do this, GLADLY.
Answer the same question first, hypocrite.


You will reap what you sow. JUST WATCH. comrade.
I'm watching and see nothing more than a regular keyboard warrior. Comrade, is that all what you're ready to do for your victory? Are you going to torment me to death with your notations? Or you're planning to use keyboard as some kind of real-life weapon? Cheesy

You just fucked up.
I'm sorry, but you even unable to back your own statement about entropy. Use the mirror if you want to see fucked up person.

HAHAHA. Please do go on. Its interesting to watch what you call human intelligence work.

Go on, and TRIPLE UP on BODYBAGS.
legendary
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Just because your definition of entropy in an astrophysical context
In my universe entropy is a measure of disorder. I gave you an example and received your adolf related projection instead of answer. Are you going to deny this?

doesn't agree with MY use in a political context, I can't help you out of your ignorance.
Yeah, you can't say anything in your own discussion and it makes me ignorant person. Right.

I feel bad for the ex-soviet educational system. This is the reason why their weapons SUCK and they fail in battle against equal forces.
Oh, another pathetic attempt to change the subject. This won't work, don't even think about that. I won't let you go so easy way. Smiley

Shit, RUSSIA invaded UKRAINE and you are still sitting here denying it.

The title of this thread implies the west is invading russia, whereas its the ex-commie fascists that are committing the CRIME.
There is nothing to deny or explain since all these reports are backed by statements from ukrainian authorities only. Even OSCE refused to confirm your fantasy. If you won't try to use DigitalGlobe fantasy as a proof, of coourse.

A word of advice: DOUBLE UP on BODYBAGS!
Why should I think that your blah blah blah, bullshit and size=16pt are worth anything?

Explain to me HOW russia and russians aren't just a bunch of common FUCKING MURDERERS?
We will help you to do this, GLADLY.
Answer the same question first, hypocrite.


You will reap what you sow. JUST WATCH. comrade.
I'm watching and see nothing more than a regular keyboard warrior. Comrade, is that all what you're ready to do for your victory? Are you going to torment me to death with your notations? Or you're planning to use keyboard as some kind of real-life weapon? Cheesy

You just fucked up.
I'm sorry, but you even unable to back your own statement about entropy. Use the mirror if you want to see fucked up person.
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Meanwhile, and despite Russia repeatedly saying that the conflict in Ukraine is an internal civil war, the president of... Lithuania stated today that there is a war between Russia and Ukraine and by extension with the whole of Europe.

Quote: "Because Russia is at war with Ukraine, it is at war with a country that badly wants a tight integration with EU and thus Russia is at war with EU. Europe must help Ukraine in defending its land and its people. Ukraine is fighting today in the name of all Europeans."

http://www.bfm.ru/news/270986

Never mind 820.000 refugees and Ukrainian military that fled to Russia. Can you imagine British fleeing to Germany during WWII?

This is very dangerous rhetoric: she de-facto declares war on Russia from the name of the whole Europe. What is ironic, is that both Russia, Lithuania and Ukraine are par of Europe, Eastern Europe, but still - so Europe declares a war on itself, while the only one leaning back with the pop-corn will be the US...

WWIII, here we come. The next step: EU/NATO launching a pre-emptive attack against Russia under the above pretext.

So, any Europeans on this forum - did you know that you are already at war with Russia, according to Lithuania (who are firmly under the US thumb)? Are you ready to die for Ukraine?

WWI was started under the pretext of Serbia.
WWII was started under the pretext of Yugoslavia.
WWIII is being started under the pretext of Ukraine.

It seems that Russia once again will be called upon to perform the thankless task of ending yet another war, imposed on it from the West...  Embarrassed


What history did they teach you in Russia ?

Oh wait , the pretext was the invasion of Poland in which Russia also played a role.
No wonder you're trying to avoid it.

I thought you were asleep.  Grin

First of all, AGAIN!!! Not, Russia, but Soviet Union.

Second, yes, I was wrong. It was the invasion Poland by Germany after a pretext provocation by Germans, dressed as Poles, attacking a German radio station.

For some reason, I had also some events in Yugoslavia around that time at the back of my head. I am fixing my original post, and adding a few more thoughts. The main grotesque point of it stands, something that you completely avoided noticing - Lithuania has just declared war against Russia, also on your behalf.



Let me add the required text:

It was the invasion Poland by Germany after a pretext provocation by Germans, dressed as Poles, attacking a German radio station on 1st of September , one week after the signing of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, while the Soviet invasion commenced on 17 September .

Second , ww2 started because the attack on German citizens , now ww3 because the attack on russian citizens?


Europe wants no war it's you russians who can't really stay in your damn country for more than a decade.
You want another ww3 , probably you will get it.

And after all , didn't you say a while ago that you live in the EU? It's going to be funny for you , more than for me.

In the end , if Russia really wants war it will get it , and no matter how stupid it is probably i'll be back in the turret of a tank and end up dead just because some guy who has an inferiority complex (you know about his shoes don't you? ) wants to show that he is the lider or a "nuclear power".
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My advice to Russia: stock up on body bags, you'll need them.
Yeah, another very useful advice from somebody who has failed to continue his own discussion. Cheesy

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8592130

Just because your definition of entropy in an astrophysical context

doesn't agree with MY use in a political context, I can't help you out of your ignorance.

I feel bad for the ex-soviet educational system. This is the reason why their weapons SUCK and they fail in battle against equal forces.

Besides, don't skirt the issue with an argument over semantics-

LETS TALK ABOUT RUSSIANS ILLEGALLY INVADING AND BRUTALIZING THEIR NEIGHBORS.


Shit, RUSSIA invaded UKRAINE and you are still sitting here denying it.

The title of this thread implies the west is invading russia, whereas its the ex-commie fascists that are committing the CRIME.

Don't kill us and then explain to us that WE are the ones doing the killing.

Explain to me HOW russia and russians aren't just a bunch of common FUCKING MURDERERS?

You will reap what you sow. JUST WATCH. comrade.

Your post-soviet dreams will turn into a nightmare. We will help you to do this, GLADLY.

Your lies reek of fear- this fear is justified. You just fucked up.

A word of advice: DOUBLE UP on BODYBAGS!
legendary
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My advice to Russia: stock up on body bags, you'll need them.
Yeah, another very useful advice from somebody who has failed to continue his own discussion. Cheesy

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8592130
legendary
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Lithuania has just declared war against Russia, also on your behalf.
? o_O

Well, I am just extrapolating on the choice of wording by the Lithuanian President:
http://www.bfm.ru/news/270986

Also, another interesting "coincidence":
http://en.ria.ru/military_news/20140830/192472196/Norway-Sends-Tanks-to-Latvian-Russian-Border--Reports.html
Can that incidentally be the tanks newly-shipped from the US?
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Lithuania has just declared war against Russia, also on your behalf.
? o_O

All of the people Moscow BRUTALIZED are now coming back to haunt Russia.

Millions of dead are screaming for VENGEANCE, their relatives and loved ones hear and REMEMBER their cry.

My advice to Russia: stock up on body bags, you'll need them.
legendary
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Lithuania has just declared war against Russia, also on your behalf.
? o_O
legendary
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Meanwhile, and despite Russia repeatedly saying that the conflict in Ukraine is an internal civil war, the president of... Lithuania stated today that there is a war between Russia and Ukraine and by extension with the whole of Europe.

Quote: "Because Russia is at war with Ukraine, it is at war with a country that badly wants a tight integration with EU and thus Russia is at war with EU. Europe must help Ukraine in defending its land and its people. Ukraine is fighting today in the name of all Europeans."

http://www.bfm.ru/news/270986

Never mind 820.000 refugees and Ukrainian military that fled to Russia. Can you imagine British fleeing to Germany during WWII?

This is very dangerous rhetoric: she de-facto declares war on Russia from the name of the whole Europe. What is ironic, is that both Russia, Lithuania and Ukraine are par of Europe, Eastern Europe, but still - so Europe declares a war on itself, while the only one leaning back with the pop-corn will be the US...

WWIII, here we come. The next step: EU/NATO launching a pre-emptive attack against Russia under the above pretext.

So, any Europeans on this forum - did you know that you are already at war with Russia, according to Lithuania (who are firmly under the US thumb)? Are you ready to die for Ukraine?

WWI was started under the pretext of Serbia.
WWII was started under the pretext of Yugoslavia.
WWIII is being started under the pretext of Ukraine.

It seems that Russia once again will be called upon to perform the thankless task of ending yet another war, imposed on it from the West...  Embarrassed


What history did they teach you in Russia ?

Oh wait , the pretext was the invasion of Poland in which Russia also played a role.
No wonder you're trying to avoid it.

I thought you were asleep.  Grin

First of all, AGAIN!!! Not, Russia, but Soviet Union.

Second, yes, I was wrong. It was the invasion Poland by Germany after a pretext provocation by Germans, dressed as Poles, attacking a German radio station.

For some reason, I had also some events in Yugoslavia around that time at the back of my head. I am fixing my original post, and adding a few more thoughts. The main grotesque point of it stands, something that you completely avoided noticing - Lithuania has just declared war against Russia, also on your behalf.
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Meanwhile, and despite Russia repeatedly saying that the conflict in Ukraine is an internal civil war, the president of... Lithuania stated today that there is a war between Russia and Ukraine and by extension with the whole of Europe.

Quote: "Because Russia is at war with Ukraine, it is at war with a country that badly wants a tight integration with EU and thus Russia is at war with EU. Europe must help Ukraine in defending its land and its people. Ukraine is fighting today in the name of all Europeans."

http://www.bfm.ru/news/270986

Never mind 820.000 refugees and Ukrainian military that fled to Russia. Can you imagine British fleeing to Germany during WWII?

This is very dangerous rhetoric: she de-facto declares war on Russia from the name of the whole Europe. What is ironic, is that both Russia, Lithuania and Ukraine are par of Europe, Eastern Europe, but still - so Europe declares a war on itself, while the only one leaning back with the pop-corn will be the US...

WWIII, here we come. The next step: EU/NATO launching a pre-emptive attack against Russia under the above pretext.

So, any Europeans on this forum - did you know that you are already at war with Russia, according to Lithuania (who are firmly under the US thumb)? Are you ready to die for Ukraine?

WWI was started under the pretext of Serbia.
WWII was started under the pretext of Yugoslavia.
WWIII is being started under the pretext of Ukraine.

It seems that Russia once again will be called upon to perform the thankless task of ending yet another war, imposed on it from the West...  Embarrassed


What history did they teach you in Russia ?

Oh wait , the pretext was the invasion of Poland in which Russia also played a role.
No wonder you're trying to avoid it.
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1014
Meanwhile, and despite Russia repeatedly saying that the conflict in Ukraine is an internal civil war, the president of... Lithuania stated today that there is a war between Russia and Ukraine and by extension with the whole of Europe.

Quote: "Because Russia is at war with Ukraine, it is at war with a country that badly wants a tight integration with EU and thus Russia is at war with EU. Europe must help Ukraine in defending its land and its people. Ukraine is fighting today in the name of all Europeans."

http://www.bfm.ru/news/270986

Never mind 820.000 refugees and Ukrainian military that fled to Russia. Can you imagine British fleeing to Germany during WWII?

This is very dangerous rhetoric: she de-facto declares war on Russia on behalf of the whole Europe. What is ironic, is that both Russia, Lithuania and Ukraine are par of Europe, Eastern Europe, but still - so Europe declares a war on itself, while the only one leaning back with the pop-corn will be the US...

WWIII, here we come. The next step: EU/NATO launching a pre-emptive attack against Russia under the above pretext.

So, any Europeans on this forum - did you know that you are already at war with Russia, according to Lithuania (who are firmly under the US thumb)? Are you ready to die for Ukraine, for Poroshenko and his US-given right to decide which people are first-class, and which can be genocided to make space for the interests Dutch Shell and American oil magnates?

WWI was started under the pretext of Serbia.
WWII was started under the pretext of Poland.
WWIII is being started under the pretext of Ukraine.

It seems that Russia once again will be called upon to perform the thankless task of ending yet another war, imposed on it from the West...  Embarrassed
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What do I see: more hawkish rhetoric from NATO (read: US and Rasmussen):

right, all this has nothing to do with Russia starting war in the region and annexing territories from neighbour countries Smiley
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