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Topic: Is the West gearing up to invade Russia once again? - page 35. (Read 58223 times)

legendary
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What is it? Wishful thinking, some perverted reasoning? The USSR lost about 30 million people due to Hitler and his accomplices (and most of which were civilians). What else could Stalin do? Huh

Normally, if sane people are commanding the armies, then common sense says that the attackers will lose more people than the defenders. Here it was just the opposite. 4 million Germans killed when compared to 30 million Russians, Ukrainians and Belorussians. Technology-wise, both the armies were almost equal. 26 million additional deaths caused by the stupidity of Stalin and his ministers.
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I opened this thread with a comparison to 1812, however something Balthazar wrote yesterday in another thread, while answering whether Staling believed multiple reports of an imminent attack on the Soviet Union by Hitler's Germany, brought forth a comparison to 1941.

Whether he expected it or not, Stalin was a miserable failure against the Nazi Germans. The Soviets lost close to 30 million people, many times the German casualties. The soldiers were just used as cannon fodder, and their lives were not valued.

What is it? Wishful thinking, some perverted reasoning? The USSR lost about 30 million people due to Hitler and his accomplices (and most of which were civilians). What else could Stalin do? Huh
legendary
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I opened this thread with a comparison to 1812, however something Balthazar wrote yesterday in another thread, while answering whether Staling believed multiple reports of an imminent attack on the Soviet Union by Hitler's Germany, brought forth a comparison to 1941.

Whether he expected it or not, Stalin was a miserable failure against the Nazi Germans. The Soviets lost close to 30 million people, many times the German casualties. The soldiers were just used as cannon fodder, and their lives were not valued.
legendary
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I opened this thread with a comparison to 1812, however something Balthazar wrote yesterday in another thread, while answering whether Staling believed multiple reports of an imminent attack on the Soviet Union by Hitler's Germany, brought forth a comparison to 1941. Here is an excerpt from his quote:

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What makes you think that he didn't believe the received information? Of course he believed, but he couldn't do anything.

  • If USSR would have made the first move, then Hitler would have an ideological advantage. This is very important. Then he would be able to sign an agreement on mutual assistance with US or anybody else and this would strengthen his positions.
  • If the troops would be deployed near the border, this would be interpreted as preparation for the invasion, giving the same ideological advantage.

You will be surprised, but we see the same situation right now. Obama along with his puppets would like very much to see, how Russia occupies Ukraine. They are continuously put the blame on Putin for invasion to east regions, troops near the border, etc. They're are using fake evidences, old photos as the "proofs" and attacking own troops in the friedly fire.

Similar things were seen on the western soviet borders in 1940-1941:

http://podvig.gpk.gov.by/article/history_border_services/border_on_the_eve_of_war/

So the best option is simply ignore all provocations, don't do anything and wait for the first move. Just like Putin does right now.
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legendary
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Haven't US embarrass itself enough?

The Americans don't care much about their international reputation. All that matters is support back home. Whenever the US invades some third world country, the support for the ruling class rises, as evident from the bombing of Serbia in 1999. Bill Clinton's popularity was at rock bottom, and the bombing helped him to regain the lost ground.
legendary
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Good. The United States went ballistic in the 1960s, when the Soviets moved some missile close to the US - Cuba border. But they have no problem in conducting military exercises near the Russian border. Hypocrites.

1960s is a very long time ago, they have since changed policy. They do military exercise on all borders now (legal and illegal). Despite this I agree with you, its hypocrite.

The Jupiter missiles with nuclear warheads started to be installed on Turkey, directed to the Soviet Union, on 1961. That indeed created the next year the biggest crisis of the Cold War between the two States, the Cuban missile crisis, because the Soviet Union tried to do to the USA exactly the same thing: install nuclear missiles on Cuba.
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Haven't US embarrass itself enough?
legendary
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Senator Ben Cardin (Democrat, United States Senator from Maryland) going ballistic over Russia. His latest tweets:

Diplomacy is the way to solve conflicts. We will not recognize the results of what Russia has done in the region.

Russia has violated every Helsinki accord. The intl national community must denounce what they have done with a united voice.
legendary
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In the meantime...

Lower House approves ‘none of the above’ option for municipal polls

http://rt.com/politics/161084-duma-none-vote-russian/

How's this related to the West perking up to invade Russia once again? Grin
Actually, it's directly related. Very funny to see how those, who unable to choose "against all" option in the ballot, are constantly pushing this "undemocratic russians" bullshit propaganda round the forum like dung-beetles instead of trying to open the eyes and read the fucking textbooks.

So you see this option (or its absence) as a reason toward invading Russia, right? Cool
legendary
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In the meantime...

Lower House approves ‘none of the above’ option for municipal polls

http://rt.com/politics/161084-duma-none-vote-russian/

How's this related to the West perking up to invade Russia once again? Grin
Actually, it's directly related. Very funny to see how those, who unable to choose "against all" option in the ballot, are constantly pushing this "undemocratic russians" bullshit propaganda round the forum like dung-beetles instead of trying to open the eyes and read the fucking textbooks.
legendary
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Germany, for sure is not going to take too many chances with Russia.

Exclusive: German industry sees 'irreparable damage' from Russia sanctions

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/05/16/uk-germany-russia-business-idUKKBN0DW17I20140516
legendary
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In the meantime...

Lower House approves ‘none of the above’ option for municipal polls

http://rt.com/politics/161084-duma-none-vote-russian/

How's this related to the West perking up to invade Russia once again? Grin
legendary
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In the meantime...

Lower House approves ‘none of the above’ option for municipal polls

http://rt.com/politics/161084-duma-none-vote-russian/
legendary
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Seems its destination is Odessa...
Warm welcome is expected.

Good luck with that.... Odessa will break away from Ukraine in a matter of months. Especially after the infamous trade union office human BBQ. Soon Ukraine will be left with no Black Sea coast.
sr. member
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Good. The United States went ballistic in the 1960s, when the Soviets moved some missile close to the US - Cuba border. But they have no problem in conducting military exercises near the Russian border. Hypocrites.

1960s is a very long time ago, they have since changed policy. They do military exercise on all borders now (legal and illegal). Despite this I agree with you, its hypocrite.
legendary
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Seems its destination is Odessa...
Warm welcome is expected.

Here is what happened in Sevastopol 8 months ago, when NATO ships entered hero-city Sevastopol, the pride of Russian sailors:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdEMq3fdz2M

Before they managed to go ashore, they had to listen for several hours what exactly locals think of them. Smiley
legendary
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American Ticonderoga-class rocket cruiser Vella Gulf  has entered Black Sea carrying Aegis anti-rocket system, winged rockets Tomahawk, remote controlled rockets Standard-2 and Standard-3 (122 rockets in all):
http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1211422?utm_medium=rss20
Washington said that the ships entry into Black Sea is connected with the (p)residential elections in Ukraine.

I would like to see where these ships will dock. Crimea has merged with Russia (the best ports, such as Sevastopol were located there) and violent protests are ongoing in Odessa.
legendary
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American Ticonderoga-class rocket cruiser Vella Gulf  has entered Black Sea carrying Aegis anti-rocket system:
http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1211422?utm_medium=rss20
Washington said that the ships entry into Black Sea is connected with the (p)residential elections in Ukraine.

Are they shipping the next president of Ukraine? Grin
legendary
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American Ticonderoga-class rocket cruiser Vella Gulf  has entered Black Sea carrying Aegis anti-rocket system, winged rockets Tomahawk, remote controlled rockets Standard-2 and Standard-3 (122 rockets in all):
http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1211422?utm_medium=rss20
Washington said that the ships entry into Black Sea is connected with the (p)residential elections in Ukraine.
legendary
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Russia takes retaliatory steps against NATO buildup near border – military

Good. The United States went ballistic in the 1960s, when the Soviets moved some missile close to the US - Cuba border. But they have no problem in conducting military exercises near the Russian border. Hypocrites.

In the 1960s it all started with the United States installing intermediate-range ballistic missiles in Turkey during April 1962... The history seems to repeat itself! Cool
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