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legendary
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April 14, 2015, 07:23:35 AM
It's OK, Muhammad himself had sex with 9 year old girl.
She was mature at the time of consummation and married with consent so why do think it's wrong? Women in hotter climates attain puberty earlier.

WTF is wrong with you? How can a 9-year old kid attain "maturity" to engage in sexual relationships? I expected you to counter his argument by saying that there is no evidence to prove that she was 9-year old at the time of marriage. Disappointing.
I suggest you read Aisha's journals and narrations. She always praised and followed Prophet's teachings throughout her life till she died at the age of 64.
If she never mentioned a single issue with her marriage throughout her life and was most happily married then I don't see what's the problem with you.
legendary
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April 14, 2015, 07:15:07 AM
It's OK, Muhammad himself had sex with 9 year old girl.
She was mature at the time of consummation and married with consent so why do think it's wrong? Women in hotter climates attain puberty earlier.

WTF is wrong with you? How can a 9-year old kid attain "maturity" to engage in sexual relationships? I expected you to counter his argument by saying that there is no evidence to prove that she was 9-year old at the time of marriage. Disappointing.
legendary
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April 14, 2015, 07:11:21 AM
It's OK, Muhammad himself had sex with 9 year old girl.
She was mature at the time of consummation and married with consent so why do think it's wrong? Women in hotter climates attain puberty earlier.
Also if you read her biography you'll know she was an accomplished women and served Islam for decades after Prophet's death.
And also feminism is being discussed so I'll share this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Camel .She commanded thousands of Muslims on battlefield.
legendary
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April 14, 2015, 07:10:40 AM
Yep, I know all about the history, as I said, the Kurds have a bone to pick with ISIS over the Ottomon Empire of which Turkey is essentially the remnants of, in regards to the PKK as well they have imprisoned their leader too so that's naturally got a lot of people riled.

PKK was formed after the Turkish government banned the usage of Kurdish language in public places. These sort of measures are childish. Look at what is happening in Eastern Ukraine. They banned the Russian language in a country where 80% of the population uses it as a home language. The result: tens of thousands of sq.km of land lost to the rebels, along with the largest coal fields and industrial zones.
legendary
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April 14, 2015, 06:44:40 AM

I undertand. We(in general)  both may not be able to convince each other.

Yes, a man can have a maximum of four wives. There are strict rules if one man marry more than one wife.

I will give you a simple answer for that. Milk four types of animals, say goat, cow, camel and donkey. Pour them in a pot/bucket/flask and mix them. Can you now identify which is from which? It is the same with having babies. If you have four husbands, it won't be easy to who is child's father? But this is not the case for a man.

What?  Shocked

How is that related to inequality in Islam where a man is allowed to have four wives at one time and woman are not?

OMG so you meant if a women had four husband it won't be easy to tell who was the father of the child?? That's your argument for the in-equality?? This is absurd.

(Oh and btw there is a thing called DNA test for that.)
I explained this at another forum sometime ago.I hope you understand. Islam doesn't encourage polygamy nonetheless it's allowed under certain conditions. Even if we consider that DNA test is available and accepted in all places(which is not the case third world countries have less than 50% literacy rate) there are many other complications for Polyandry one of them explained below.  
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As you have read Quran twice you should know that Polygamy is allowed on the principle that you treat your spouses equally. Quran says "If you can't treat them equally marry only one".

Now let us imagine a situation that a girl marriages multiple husband.
Suppose HK is a girl that marries four males A, B, C and D.
Now she has to treat all of them equally. Now keep this in mind that Islam strictly prohibits extramarital relationships and homos.

Now HK got to treat them equally. They all want to have their babies. They'll have to have babies with you as they are married with you.
You can't have all their babies at the same time. There it goes you can't treat them equally. If you decide to have baby with one others will have to wait wait for their turn.

Let's say they decide to do this and wait for their respective turns.
"A" conceives you first. Then its B's turn.
Now you'll have two choices to make it work while you are trying to conceive with B:
1. First one is simple Other 3 use condom while they do you and only B does it without condom.
Since condoms doesn't work all the time. Its possible that A breaks it while doing you so again its his baby and other 3's baby delayed by another year. (Abortions are strictly disallowed is Islam).
Again where the fuck is equality?

2. Second choice is other three wait while you are trying to conceive with B and don't do you during this time. But you know it can take days and sometimes months to get pregnant.
What will the other three do while you are trying? Suck their dicks?
Since they can't have extra marital relationships neither homo what is the purpose of marriage if they have to wait months to get sex.

^^^ That's why polygamy doesn't work for women and its not allowed in Islam. Islam totally makes sense.
I hope you understand.
http://thebot.net/threads/a-non-muslim-on-a-islamic-country.304541/page-22#post-3272988
legendary
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April 14, 2015, 06:34:04 AM
You just did it in the same fucking line again!

"The verse you quoted says they have equal rights in husband-wife issue but men have higher decree than woman."

Oh and great, yeah, forcing women to wait 3 months to divorce their husband and if they have a child they're supposed to tell everyone about it, gee wiz, that sound really tolerant and equal.

Also, comparing religion to Bitcoin is bullshit, since Bitcoin is simply maths, I also can't fathom how you believe that anything in these books is 'open' to interpretation, it just shows that you're being dishonest and picking and choosing things you either agree with or disagree with to legitimise religion.
This higher decree refers to Patriarchal society and it's proven to be better than matriarchal society. At the same time Islam guarantees equal rights so I don't see any problem there.
This is evident from Islam giving inheritance and all other rights to women 1400 years back while Europe/Christendom denying inheritance rights to women until last couple centuries.
Islam is credited to give complete rights to women and that too in an ancient male-dominated society of savages who used to bury infant girls alive.
legendary
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April 14, 2015, 02:43:23 AM
No one is more pissed off about these guys than the Kurds, you look at the interviews the media has with them and independent journalists and they hate ISIS with a passion one was saying "They aren't human, they're monsters" because of how they tricked this guys daughter and messed around with them when they were trying to escape ISIS controlled territory.

Kurds are the most effective fighting force right now against the ISIS. However, the NATO is against giving any sort of political or technical support to them, due to the fierce opposition from Turkey.

Yep, I know all about the history, as I said, the Kurds have a bone to pick with ISIS over the Ottomon Empire of which Turkey is essentially the remnants of, in regards to the PKK as well they have imprisoned their leader too so that's naturally got a lot of people riled.
legendary
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April 14, 2015, 02:38:14 AM
No one is more pissed off about these guys than the Kurds, you look at the interviews the media has with them and independent journalists and they hate ISIS with a passion one was saying "They aren't human, they're monsters" because of how they tricked this guys daughter and messed around with them when they were trying to escape ISIS controlled territory.

Kurds are the most effective fighting force right now against the ISIS. However, the NATO is against giving any sort of political or technical support to them, due to the fierce opposition from Turkey.
legendary
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#Free market
April 14, 2015, 02:15:45 AM
Even in ISIS, instead of following the religion they claim to be so devout to, they'll use it as an excuse to get rid of rivals and so on who speak up against, them, none of it is real, never follow the fanatics in any walk of life, especially the ones who talk about how morally superior they are.

It is only an excuse as you said, if you remove them the religion part I'm sure they will continue to do the same (so the religion doesn't matter at all).
legendary
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April 14, 2015, 02:05:13 AM
Even in ISIS, instead of following the religion they claim to be so devout to, they'll use it as an excuse to get rid of rivals and so on who speak up against them, none of it is real, never follow the fanatics in any walk of life, especially the ones who talk about how morally superior they are.
legendary
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April 14, 2015, 01:43:09 AM
Is this story legit? How is it even possible for a 9-year-old to get pregnant.

Another noble deed in the name of the God by the religion of Peace.

Hope they burn in hell, these monsters.

(Where's Ironman when you need him the most)

Why guys twist things? It was 10 sex rapers who did and it is not in the name of Islam. They did it for self satisfaction. In fact, Islam was the religion which abolished killing femal infants, bad sexial attitude towards female etc... Please don't mix action of people with religion. You can't even find a verse telling to rape a woman in Qur'an.

Everything ISIS does is in the name of Islam whether you agree with it or not or whether they've distorted or perverted Islam for their own political motives.

That's the problem with every religion.   Followers distort it for their own purposes.   People like to pick and choose which parts they want to listen to.
legendary
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April 14, 2015, 01:29:20 AM
I will not read the other posts at all, but my comment on this would be;

Are these humans?

No one is more pissed off about these guys than the Kurds, you look at the interviews the media has with them and independent journalists and they hate ISIS with a passion one was saying "They aren't human, they're monsters" because of how they tricked this guys daughter and messed around with them when they were trying to escape ISIS controlled territory.

These guys have had a bone to pick with the Suni Arabs and the like in particular since the days of the Ottomon empire.
legendary
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#Free market
April 14, 2015, 01:00:12 AM
Once they bought the child from its father it is not called rape it is called marriage.

What is wrong with you? The kid was kidnapped from her parents, just because she belonged to the Yazidi religious group. No one "bought" the kid.

So is TechLaser spreading FUD? It seems legit  Roll Eyes, there is a categorize of people that only want to ruin the discussion with this type of phrase. Well done TechLaser, now can we move on ?
legendary
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April 13, 2015, 11:37:40 PM
Once they bought the child from its father it is not called rape it is called marriage.

What is wrong with you? The kid was kidnapped from her parents, just because she belonged to the Yazidi religious group. No one "bought" the kid.
legendary
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April 13, 2015, 11:24:35 PM
I will not read the other posts at all, but my comment on this would be;

Are these humans?

No they are not humans, an they are not muslims because as Muhammed Zakir said here in this thread a muslim doesn't rape a Minor  Sad but it seems in this case there is something wrong.

Once they bought the child from its father it is not called rape it is called marriage.

Even a father has no right to sell his daughter to anyone. They are kids not vegetables that you can buy in market.
legendary
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April 13, 2015, 08:42:23 PM
DNA can give estimated results not accurate.

I disagree. As the number of chromosome matches increases, the probability of 2 people sharing the same set of chromosomes decreases. Beyond a point, you can statistically conclude that there is a match. DNA can't be considered as court evidence if all it gave was estimated results.
legendary
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April 13, 2015, 05:41:52 PM
I don't even understand what they accomplish by this. It's hard to wrap your head around an adult male raping an adolescent. They've done numerous things that are inhumane. No telling that they do to children that doesn't make it to mainstream media.
hero member
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April 13, 2015, 05:19:38 PM
I will not read the other posts at all, but my comment on this would be;

Are these humans?

No they are not humans, an they are not muslims because as Muhammed Zakir said here in this thread a muslim doesn't rape a Minor  Sad but it seems in this case there is something wrong.

Once they bought the child from its father it is not called rape it is called marriage.

No no that is not a marriage, who is the stupid who bought a child ....

I will not read the other posts at all, but my comment on this would be;

Are these humans?

No they are not humans, an they are not muslims because as Muhammed Zakir said here in this thread a muslim doesn't rape a Minor  Sad but it seems in this case there is something wrong.

Well ask the other muslims and they say Muhammed Zakir is not a real muslim.

Most probably you are right.
sr. member
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April 13, 2015, 05:13:34 PM
I will not read the other posts at all, but my comment on this would be;

Are these humans?

No they are not humans, an they are not muslims because as Muhammed Zakir said here in this thread a muslim doesn't rape a Minor  Sad but it seems in this case there is something wrong.

Well ask the other muslims and they say Muhammed Zakir is not a real muslim.

Edit Found this link


Pedos since the beggining

The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)” (Bukhari 7.62.88).

http://800whistleblower.com/horrifying-islamic-state-militant-announces-marriage-to-terrified-7-yr-old/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook#
newbie
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April 13, 2015, 05:12:36 PM
I will not read the other posts at all, but my comment on this would be;

Are these humans?

No they are not humans, an they are not muslims because as Muhammed Zakir said here in this thread a muslim doesn't rape a Minor  Sad but it seems in this case there is something wrong.

Once they bought the child from its father it is not called rape it is called marriage.
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