Topic: ISIS impregnates 9-year-old girl - page 8. (Read 12482 times)

He wants them to feel the same pain. It probably isn't a good idea as that will become a usual thing which may result in more violence.

If we also torture them the way they are torturing others then what will be the difference between us and them. Let's not become one of them to punish them.

Trial is nothing but bureacratic waste of time, we all know their deserved sentence. They can choose between quick death on the battle field, or slower death on the electric chair.

However, I'd like to add some less civilized options... Such as butt rape, combined with endless and midieval-style torture.

If at all they are brought to justice, they will be killed in combat. Justice will be swift.
Osama didn't go to trial in a tribunal.

I sincerely hope we are headed toward war crimes tribunals for ISIS.

I am comparing a RAPE with a RAPE. The reasons may be different but I don't care why did the person commit this crime but the only thing that matters is that he committed the crime. He may quote many reasons but that does not make his crime meaningless. A criminal always thinks what he has done is right and quotes a religion or another reason for his crime and then people start debating on it. This indirectly SUPPORTS the crime saying that here religion is at fault and NOT the criminal as he committed the crime because his religion tells it is right. Does this mean that all people who belong to that religion should commit such a crime? Why not blame him instead of the religion?

I agree that some beliefs are wrong but it's finally the person who commits a crime and not all people who belong to that religion commit such crimes.

In other cases, people blame movies/alcohol/the girl's character and say that their crime is justified. It's wrong as the criminal committed the crime because he WANTED to commit the crime. Here as well those criminals wanted to assault that girl and hence they did it no matter what they believed in.

  poor little girl . I wish she can suffer this situation and become free from these problems.those evil devils used this 9 year old girl to satisfy their need I mean how can even this for it.god help that girl

Well that's what is scary to me and what makes me lean towards questioning the Islamic religion, I'm not sure you can rationalize the rape of a 9 year old with most other religions but they seem to be able to do it while using references from the Qu'ran. If anyone were to start quoting any reference from the Bible to support raping a 9 year old, there would be no merit. But when you see quotes like:

“Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them. Know that God is with the righteous.” Quran 9:123
“Muhammad is God’s apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another.” Quran 48:29
“The unbelievers among the People of the Book [Bible] and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures.” Quran 98:6
“Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate.” Quran 9:73
“Let not the unbelievers think they will ever get away. They have not the power so to do. Muster against them all the men and cavalry at your command, so that you may strike terror into the enemy of Allah and your enemy…” Quran 8:59-60
... and more
source: http://freethoughtnation.com/what-does-the-koran-say-about-nonbelievers/

It just seems like there is a lot of extreme hatred inside of the Quran towards those that do not believe in their religion. *Some* Christians have the same viewpoint about those that don't believe in their religion but usually accept that their God will deal with it and just end it with "they will go to hell". I'm fine with that peaceful mentality, whether or not I agree with the religion.

You can believe what you want until you start imposing or forcing the belief on others and it seems like the Quran instructs such things to happen?

Hopefully I am just ignorant to true Muslim beliefs, the Muslims I know personally I do not talk much to them with regards to religion because I know its a sensitive subject.

Dude, I don't know where you live, but in the civilized societies we put people in jail. And the presence of the holly ghost has not been convincingly proven.

+1000

It is their rules not the rules by their GOD but they are continuing to do those things in name of him (Allah) and this is really stupid.

+1
This is not ok in Islamic law either. It's just the cold blooded rape of a child. No religion or society would accept it. I'm sure these guys have rationalized it somehow. By invoking, oh... I dunno.. GOD!
And let me guess. Anyone who disagrees should be killed in the name of God.

This. They are not human or people, they are only incivil criminals.

I agree with you, I was just pointing out that religions have their own versions of what they determine a crime and how those criminals are handled. You and I thinking they are criminals means nothing if they are on the other side of the world being ruled under someone who doesn't see a problem with it. Obviously the 9 year old rape of a girl is probably not the best example because I would *hope* most religions out there would not come anywhere near condoning this behavior.

I do not give a shit about a Quran or anything when someone rapes a 9 year old, he is a criminal!

I would say your comparing two different things... the case you posted about a Buddhist is one person, of a certain faith, raping a girl.  He is not raping the girl and citing buddhist beliefs as the justification for doing it. Your not going to be able to find a buddhist belief that can be twisted into "its ok to rape a girl" and your probably not going to be able to easily 'spin' any reference in the Bible, unless you just completely make up a belief that doesn't exist. ISIS and other organizations that stem off from the Islam religion seem to quote specific and detailed references in the Qu'ran which gives them the 'feeling' that they have a God, prophet, or whatever behind their actions.


I guess this could depend on what your regions version of a "criminal" is? 
Unfortunately the same mis-interpreted statements in the Qu'ran could still be imposed by a Government, ruler, or whatever. If we eliminate all religions & God, we will just be listening to our 'rulers' and what they deem is or is not a crime. And this would probably end up different throughout the world. I am not sure which one I want at this point... Government or God?  is none of the above an option?   

Yes. Not people but criminals.

All this makes sense once you realize that there is no actual God. It's just people being people.

I have read cases where Christians, Hindus and all other castes have been involved in such crimes. Some say buddists never committed this crime then here goes a case: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2176747/Buddhist-monk-repeatedly-raped-teen-years-impregnated-her.html


I don't know why everyone connects such incidents with a religion as other people who assault girls do it for fun or because they are MENTALLY SICK and they have no right to live.

If not religion, then people blame the country. That's the reason I don't believe in any religion/country/case. I only believe in HUMANITY and if one is a good human, they will never hurt or assault any girl.

In this case, the people are mentally sick and hence they assaulted that innocent child and such people have no right to live whether or not they belong to any religion.

Well said, yes, and I agree with Pentax's interpretation. And that's what its all about, interpretation. However we cannot ignore the fact that these acts are being done in the name of a religion in which they themselves site references from their biblical texts, Qu'ran, as justification for their evil. There are many interpretations of the Bible which create all sorts of different  "versions" of Christianity, and every religion will have people who interpret things differently.

All that being said, I haven't seen any Hindu groups, Christian groups, Jews, Buddhists, etc. conducting mass killings, beheadings, raping - children included. It is very hard to try and interpret these other religions teachings into these levels of evil... I can't understand why the Islamic religion seems to have multiple groups that seem to get this interpretation of their religion, they seem to easily be able to justify these things with passages from the Qu'ran. Whatever this book has in it, from their perspective, has definitely aided the groups actions. Whether you call that an attack on the religion itself or not, I am not sure. I personally hold the individuals accountable for their actions but I do believe the same individuals, if raised on another set of religious beliefs, would not feel the need to be committing the acts they are committing now.

I have nothing against Muslims and in fact have a few Muslim friends and, to my knowledge, they do not want to kill, behead, or rape me. I have not read the entire Qu'ran, mainly just certain sections that are being interpreted for me  .... but I can't be alone with thinking "Why do these groups get such interpretations from the Qu'ran?  Why are other religions not fueling large movements of people conducting these levels of evil?"

Just saying what I see, members of ISIS are Muslims and they're killing and raping innocent people in the name of Allah Jihad, are they not?

Wasn't Saddam a Muslim? Wasn't Osama Bin Laden a Muslim. Open your eyes and see the last 10 years terrorist attacks all over the world, recent ones include, attack in France, Australia, Pakistan(Children), Kenya(Children). All done by Islamic Terrorists.

I am just stating the obvious and I understand if it pains you as you must be a Muslim yourself but it is the truth and the truth stings.