Topic: ISIS impregnates 9-year-old girl - page 14. (Read 12457 times)

To the best of my knowledge, they saved the hindus from forced conversion to islam

I think the same, all the isis member should be 'judged' because they should pay for their action and after justiced (death penalty).

When a woman is having sex with four husbands* in between very short time(some days), how can they know who was child's exact father? Now read what I said above. I hope noe you get it.

* Not at a time.

Edit: 311 answered. I know when we say, it is wrong and illogical. When others say, it is correct and logical.

Sad to tell you this.... but if she lives, she faces decades of humiliation and isolation. The girl is from the Yazidi community. And in those parts of the world, death is more preferable than getting raped. No one will marry a rape survivor, and most probably even the parents will disown her.

LOL. I think he's comparing women and their babies to buckets of milk which you might get confused between them the more you have. He's just trying to bizarrely justify these things but the justification is coming from a place of complete ignorance.

The men should rot in hell. These crimes are on an increase and any punishment seems less for them. I just pray that the girl lives.

What?  

How is that related to inequality in Islam where a man is allowed to have four wives at one time and woman are not?

OMG so you meant if a women had four husband it won't be easy to tell who was the father of the child?? That's your argument for the in-equality?? This is absurd.

(Oh and btw there is a thing called DNA test for that.)

They have equal rights as couples but man have higher decree than woman. My English is not good enough to express what is in my mind. Is there anybody who understand what I am "really" saying and repharase it better to Lethn?


After divorcing or after death of husban, woman have to wait because if they marry another man at that time, the husband will become father of the child of previous husband. It is to solve this problem.


Comparing religion to Bitcoin? I didn't get you.

Do I really need to explain this? Because you're going to wipe out more innocent civilians than 'terrorists'. Would it be ok to drop a nuke on the Whitehouse and wipe out half of Washington just to get rid of one of the biggest terrorists in the world? Is it ok to kill Obama's kids and any tourists in the vicinity as well in the process? No.

Men has higher decree than women but how could it possibly mean men can do whatever they like on women? An Indian president have higher decree than citizens, how could that possibly mean he could do whatever he likes to them?


I undertand. We(in general)  both may not be able to convince each other.

Yes, a man can have a maximum of four wives. There are strict rules if one man marry more than one wife.

I will give you a simple answer for that. Milk four types of animals, say goat, cow, camel and donkey. Pour them in a pot/bucket/flask and mix them. Can you now identify which is from which? It is the same with having babies. If you have four husbands, it won't be easy to who is child's father? But this is not the case for a man.

It's because you're thought process clearly can't extend beyond what you experience in one minute of your life.

Whats the problem killing a lot of terrorists concentrated in a single place?

You just did it in the same fucking line again!

"The verse you quoted says they have equal rights in husband-wife issue but men have higher decree than woman."

Oh and great, yeah, forcing women to wait 3 months to divorce their husband and if they have a child they're supposed to tell everyone about it, gee wiz, that sound really tolerant and equal.

Also, comparing religion to Bitcoin is bullshit, since Bitcoin is simply maths, I also can't fathom how you believe that anything in these books is 'open' to interpretation, it just shows that you're being dishonest and picking and choosing things you either agree with or disagree with to legitimise religion.

Maybe the interpretation is wrong, sex is allowed but desires of wifes of others are to be fought and overcome

This a good app to read the thing and its meaning - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.khalsa.DhurKiBani&hl=en

I suggest you read and tell me what you found, i dont trust anything anyone says. I research myself. Remember there are morons telling bitcoin is a ponzi company

Sikhs are having a long history of bloodshed and warfare, most of it against the Muslims. To their credit, they were the ones who stopped the complete Islamization of Punjab.

No thanks.

It is talking about husband-wife things especially divorce. Here are the verses:

2:226 - For those who take an oath for abstention from their wives, a waiting for four months is ordained; if then they return, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.   

2-227 - But if their intention is firm for divorce, Allah heareth and knoweth all things.   

2:228 - Divorced women shall wait concerning themselves for three monthly periods. Nor is it lawful for them to hide what Allah Hath created in their wombs, if they have faith in Allah and the Last Day. And their husbands have the better right to take them back in that period, if they wish for reconciliation. And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable; but men have a degree over them. And Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.   

2:229 - A divorce is only permissible twice: after that, the parties should either hold Together on equitable terms, or separate with kindness. It is not lawful for you, (Men), to take back any of your gifts (from your wives), except when both parties fear that they would be unable to keep the limits ordained by Allah. If ye (judges) do indeed fear that they would be unable to keep the limits ordained by Allah, there is no blame on either of them if she give something for her freedom. These are the limits ordained by Allah. so do not transgress them if any do transgress the limits ordained by Allah, such persons wrong (Themselves as well as others).

The verse you quoted says they have equal rights in husband-wife issue but men have higher decree than woman. There is no u-turn there.

I'm giving him a chance to disprove me so he can't claim I'm 'persecuting' him for his beliefs

Well apart from their belief ion god. Sikhs are usually nice/peaceful people but not always so. See this sword fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvertGZkwF4


I wouldn't expect any great arguments from someone who makes these sorts of statements:

Well all the media around the world can't be telling lies, they can get prosecuted in some countries for giving out fake news. But as I said it's hard for a Islam practicing muslim to believe this. Therefore, I won't try to convince you.

And if you're talking about Men/Women equality. Tell me how many Marriages is a male allowed? 4 right? Meaning a man can have 4 women at the same time as his wives.

And how many are women allowed?

Actually evidence to me has shown to be pretty even in respect to who ruins families and who doesn't, it's just that one particular view is often reported on more depending on who's doing the reporting, on one end you have the socially conservative religious nutcases and on the other you have the equally batshit misandrist matriarchs, all screaming that their gender should be the one in charge.