Topic: Israel: Operation Protective Edge - page 18. (Read 14685 times)

*economic siege* as told in the newspaper you people are good with lies and manipulating words.

Israel siege...  This is not really a siege as many stuff come to Gaza from Israel and there would not be any need for control without Hamas.

Israeli Zionist are good with lies and killing innocent people.


http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/israelgaza-conflict-the-secret-report-that-helps-israelis-to-hide-facts-9630765.html

1.So Arab must stop fire rocket cause they only get a missile on the head...

2.Ethnic cleansing with a growing population ?

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein



Since before its inception the Zionist Nazi's have engaged in a policy of ethnic cleansing in Palestine, if the Palestinians retaliate they SCREAM TERRORIST!   

The rest of the world is fed-up with your Fascist totalitarian agenda     

What Hamas do is far less morally ok...

Yes and the nazis also fed and gave water to the jews before they gassed them It still does not make any of this morally defendable

Isreal is actually giving a lot of aid (food, electricity) to the citizens of palestine. Isreal is warning the people who live in houses that they are going to bomb their house prior to sending the bomb so they have time to get out. It is haamas who is use the citizens as human shields.

you are the one funny here because it is Israel that's colinizing Palestine and not the other way around, it is Israel, that is murdering hundreds of civilians and not Palestine, it's Israel that blocking the right of Palestinians to have their own nation, and stealing land and resources while breaking international law and many UN resolutions (and I'm not going to talk about the dozens of UN resolutions but were VETOed by the US), If Israel wasn't doing all this their position would be legitimate but right now it isn't and it is quite the opposite

You are funny you seem think is Israel who decide. What do you do of their "partner for peace" ?

yes but you can see the problem can't you... Antisemitists accuse Jews of stealing land and money.
If you steal land all you do is prove them right in their minds.. do you want more antisemetism or less?

you cannot have less antisemetism if you encourage Jews to commit war crimes and ignore human rights...

Also Orthodox Jews around the world will be attacked because of the actions of Isreal.. does Isreal protect them? no, it bashes them when they protest and forces them to join the army...
so which Jews are you protecting exactly? the ones who do believe in the Hebrew god or the ones who don't?


again killing innocent civilians.. do you want more terrorists or less?



again killing protesters.. do you want more riots or less?
there were no guns used by the protesters..
do you want more democracy or less?
do you want more justice or more vengeance?

the choice is yours.. you cannot have it all

it seems to me as though you are not willing to sacrifice for peace but more than happy to make war for the sake of gaining more land.
wake up Isreal, you cannot kill your way out of this..

Antisemitism existed long before the Holocaust,the official goal of the Zionist movement was to establish a Jewish state in the Holy Land. Israel is basically a solution for the Jewish question.

Not exactly,Arab aggression towards Israel does necessitate an Israeli response. Both sides don't want each other on their land,that's why they fight.

The Holocaust proved Jews will never be safe on forgein land. with rising anti semitism and muslim immigration Jews are already unsafe,and because they dont have an army they cant fight back,unlike Jews in Israel.


People get killed during riots. especially when they shoot and throw molotovs on the police. nothing new here

Zionism started as a movement more than 50 years before the holocaust.
the Name Isreal (the name of a kingdom which had been dead for 3000 years) was chosen by the Zionists to give their movement some kind of legitimacy.

the Zionist movement and the National Socialist movement (Nazism) actually have a shared history and go hand in hand.
they are in a sense reactions to each other. Nazism was a reaction to the power of the Banks/Merchants/Jews and Zionism was a reaction the the discrimination that the Jews faced in Germany.

just like Hamas and Right Wing Zionism (ie the settler movement) are reactions to each other today..

without the one you simply can't have the other.

the point of Isreal is to further the cause of Zionism.. it goes much further than simply providing a safe place for Jews.
Providing a safe place for Jews does not necessitate the invasion of other countries, the military occupation and outright theft of Palestinian land for more than 50 years.. the summary execution of protesters, the countless jailing of political prisoners and the human rights and International law violations.

In fact the UK and the US, Canada, Australia, NZ etc are far more safer places for orthodox Jews than Isreal. Orthodox Jews do not get beaten for protesting in those countries.. Nor do they get forced to join the army in those countries but they do in Isreal..

this is news from the Isreali Press just a few days old... maybe you should read it and you might learn something about Isreal.

http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Report-Three-Palestinians-killed-in-West-Bank-violence-368926

do police and civilians that steal land (aka settlers) shoot protesters in your country? I feel really sorry for you if they do.

Wrong. Hamas wants to liberate ALL of the holy land from zionist control,including the pre 1967 borders,Hamas and many other pro Palestinians consider all of Israel an occupied territory.
Besides,the Palestinians were given a chance to live peacefully in the 2 state solution in 1947,they refused and declared war instead.

Israel's point of existence is actually to provide a safe place for Jews after the Holocaust.

"The IDF is fighting this battle with one hand behind their backs and several fingers tied on the other.  Political correctness does nothing but prolong conflicts and inflict increased casualties on both sides.  Instead of a quick, sharp battle we're seeing a protracted one, not because of military necessity but because of political expediency/correctness/false morality."

http://snafu-solomon.blogspot.fr/search?updated-max=2014-07-25T00:00:00-05:00&max-results=7

the propaganda sword cuts both ways...

If you make the claim that almost every Palestinian house has a rocket under it.. so it is justified to blow up the house.
the same claim can be made about Israel... because of conscription which forces every Isreali citizen (men and women) to join the army at the age of 18 this means that almost every house in Isreal has at least one trained soldier in it.

when Hamas puts rockets in peoples houses what do they expect?
when Isreal turns almost every single citizen into a soldier (women and men) at the age of 18 what do they expect?

regardless off the propaganda.. none of it justifies the killing of innocent civilians.

the fact that Jews were persecuted 80 years ago does not in any way justify what their grandchildren are doing today.
the fact that many many Jews around the world do not even support Israels aggression makes it even less justifiable.

What Isreal does is plain WRONG. it is immoral, illegal and unjust.
What Hamas does when it fires rockets and blows up buses etc indiscriminately is also WRONG. it is immoral, illegal and unjust.

you cannot use a wrong action to justify another wrong action. it is completely absurd.

If I steal your car does that give you the right to take my house?
If the guy from two blocks away killed your grandma 80 years ago does it give you the right to turn on your neighbor and take his land even when he wasn't involved?

cmon how about some common sense.

could you imagine if countries like China, Japan and South Korea were as immature and childish as the Zionists and Islamists?
could you imagine if countries like France, England and Germany were as immature and childish as the Zionists and  Islamists?

if everyone in the world acted like Isreal and Hamas then we would be in WW3 right now i can guarantee you.

this is the point of Isreal too or did you not know that?

Isreals only point to exist is to try to get Non Jews out of their holy land and to promote their religion.

Who are you referring to that is doing this? Hammas is using palistine citizens as human shields and the Jews have been attempted to have been wiped out of the planet via the nazis in WW2.

It's not simply that. It seems like a number of posters here are bots that take content from other forum boards and copy and paste it here in order to boost site traffic. this thread and most of the posts here were poached from another forum.

I wouldn't find that surprising; I've seen users carrying out conversations between several of his/her forum accounts before, more often than not to boost post count, no doubt - and also a few cases of users making a mistake by posting with the wrong account, then deleting it, and posting the exact same thing with another account. People these days...

Anyway, it sort of helps, knowing that many of the misconceptions and nonsense that you read here, time and time again, are probably coming from only a handful of different people.