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December 29, 2023, 04:14:58 PM
I think its hard to quit gabling totally (especilly adicts) and keep to the discipline for a very long time, Gabling is more spiritual than physical. An addicted gambler is in little or no control of his gambling habits. The only effective way to stop addiction is to find a new productive hobby and substitute the gambling time for the new hobby and with time, your psychology will shift with time and you're free from addiction. Its a lot of work OP, never as easy as you're relating here, constant therapy most times helps to make the person discover the obvious dangers with addiction and guide them on how to maintain abstinence from gabling in all ramifications,
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December 29, 2023, 03:33:53 PM
This step might help gamblers a little to control their thoughts so they can encourage their thoughts to stop gambling, indeed sometimes the thoughts in our brains are very influential, especially they can control us so we don't do things that are out of control, and if you want to stop your addiction You must be able to control your thoughts.
That's the importance of using a healthy mindset so that we can control ourselves from gambling addiction and playing excessively, therefore I think gamblers can actually control themselves if they can control their thoughts in a more positive direction, for example don't think of gambling as a place to make money. a place that can be used as a source of income.

I'm sure that all people who think like that will usually end up badly becoming addicted to gambling or worse, that's why it's important for us to be able to use a healthy mindset so that we don't go beyond our limits when gambling and are really well controlled until we become adults when gambling. Understanding losing and winning is part of gambling that must be accepted gracefully.
A healthy mindset sure helps to distract one from even thinking about or engaging in betting activities as said, but with unforeseen mishaps or activities meant to distabilize someone, I won't blame anyone who finds succour or derives pleasure from betting, even if it is not because of money.

It's actually me who can't stop betting like the topic stresses, that's why betting is a choice as well as trading or investment in HODLing BTC for future purposes.
Being distracted with a chore or something informative will help better than just trying to ignore the thought of betting, and hoping not to fall into the trap of betting.
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December 29, 2023, 03:23:47 PM
Op, don't see gambling as a habit that's easy to atop, gamblers are not quitters, they don't believe that quitting gambling is an option, they see quitting as a character of the weak, gambler a believes that when you are thinking about quitting might be your time to win, so this triggers them to gamble more, op do you know that addiction has a level, so I want to make you understand that all gambler has a particular percentage of addiction of if this said act in them, how do you know this, if you are a gambler any day you don't stake game, it will seem to you like you have missed so much that you could have win if you had stake a game, I want to categorically tel you that, it is not that easy for a gambler to control him or herself.

I think you mythologized gamblers a bit too much. Painting them as some sort of strong-willed characters that persevere against all odds is an exaggeration.
Most of the addicts (of any sort) are perfectly aware of the fact they have problems, but they lack of willingness to take any effort to take control of their habits.
I wouldn't say there are levels of gambling addiction, it's more of levels of human weakness.
I have been in a shoe when I could not stop sport bet because I was strangely addicted to it. This was not a small issue for me because things made me put all my money in it thinking I'm going to double it and make money profits. At far as I was betting I was not making any profits instead I was making loses. Then I became confused and I was thinking that with time I'm going to make sure that I win but any time I won small money I was always see myself going back. It was a big challenge to me and it took me months because I was able to say to the addiction. I made multiple loses before my eyes opened that I needed to stop and concentrate on my job.

Indeed that willingness to take action which they lack has been crippled by the loss of control they developed for gambling. We all have our flaws and it shouldn't be used against us whenever we are in some trouble. Gamblers in huge numbers who are addicted can't overcome the impulse to gamble more each time they have money with them. It draws them like a gravity and the player needs a strong willpower to decide to stop. However, it'll be hard to stop and almost impossible to stop immediately. I think it's the reason why Promodcodeudo may have described addicts using such words as gamblers are not quitters. Which may to some extent be proven wrong, regardless of the level of addiction the gambler has gotten into. But in the actual sense of what addiction is about, he is right, as gamblers are not strong enough to resist gambling once addicted. With many interventions and help from the family, he may be out of the problem of gambling, provided he's willing to stop gambling.

Responding to Op in such a tone is also understandable because his thread made it sound like addicts are completely in control of their actions. They can get to know about the problem, but it vanishes from their memory, and after some moment the player finds himself gambling. They can resist help, yes, it's all about teamwork to help an addict out of his problems. Wakate, in your response, I think your addiction was quite severe, but your willpower is strong and the level of addiction wasn't so high, as you were able to retrace your way back to a responsible lifestyle. I commend you and must say that you're lucky to have ended it immediately after you were in control. However, those who are not able to make the changes still undergo a series of losses even after discovering their problems, and may not open up to people to help them out. Deep in the addicted player's mind, he is sure of being able to change himself. Which helps them to stay longer duration in the addiction.
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December 29, 2023, 03:01:22 PM
This step might help gamblers a little to control their thoughts so they can encourage their thoughts to stop gambling, indeed sometimes the thoughts in our brains are very influential, especially they can control us so we don't do things that are out of control, and if you want to stop your addiction You must be able to control your thoughts.
That's the importance of using a healthy mindset so that we can control ourselves from gambling addiction and playing excessively, therefore I think gamblers can actually control themselves if they can control their thoughts in a more positive direction, for example don't think of gambling as a place to make money. a place that can be used as a source of income.

I'm sure that all people who think like that will usually end up badly becoming addicted to gambling or worse, that's why it's important for us to be able to use a healthy mindset so that we don't go beyond our limits when gambling and are really well controlled until we become adults when gambling. Understanding losing and winning is part of gambling that must be accepted gracefully.
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December 29, 2023, 02:32:56 PM
Op, don't see gambling as a habit that's easy to atop, gamblers are not quitters, they don't believe that quitting gambling is an option, they see quitting as a character of the weak, gambler a believes that when you are thinking about quitting might be your time to win, so this triggers them to gamble more, op do you know that addiction has a level, so I want to make you understand that all gambler has a particular percentage of addiction of if this said act in them, how do you know this, if you are a gambler any day you don't stake game, it will seem to you like you have missed so much that you could have win if you had stake a game, I want to categorically tel you that, it is not that easy for a gambler to control him or herself.

I think you mythologized gamblers a bit too much. Painting them as some sort of strong-willed characters that persevere against all odds is an exaggeration.
Most of the addicts (of any sort) are perfectly aware of the fact they have problems, but they lack of willingness to take any effort to take control of their habits.
I wouldn't say there are levels of gambling addiction, it's more of levels of human weakness.
I have been in a shoe when I could not stop sport bet because I was strangely addicted to it. This was not a small issue for me because things made me put all my money in it thinking I'm going to double it and make money profits. At far as I was betting I was not making any profits instead I was making loses. Then I became confused and I was thinking that with time I'm going to make sure that I win but any time I won small money I was always see myself going back. It was a big challenge to me and it took me months because I was able to say to the addiction. I made multiple loses before my eyes opened that I needed to stop and concentrate on my job.
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December 29, 2023, 02:31:40 PM
How about if you are winning and you can't stop? can it still be considered as gambling addict?

I know the question sounds weird because most addicts are losers, but what if we are on the other side, that we are addicted to gambling because it is consistently helping us earning money, it's literrally easy money as they say gambling is easy money, if you are winning.

If you continue to win and you do not stop gambling, what would happen at last is that the person will lose. After winning, it is better to stop gambling at the time and wait till another time like the next day.

Let me answer your question. If you continue to gamble and gambling is taking more of your time that you supposed to use for other things, if you are not losing, you are still addicted to gambling. But most probably the person will be losing more than winning.

Exactly. It's not the results that make you a gambling addict but the time you spend doing so, or even better, a combination of both. A person who spends 10 hours a day in a casino will be an addict despite the results. The best way to check if you are one is to see if you can go on for a month without gambling. If you can stay away for weeks, or months without being sick and thinking how much time has to pass before you can go back to gambling. That's what differentiates an addict from a casual gambler, not the money they make.
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December 29, 2023, 02:24:26 PM
Op, don't see gambling as a habit that's easy to atop, gamblers are not quitters, they don't believe that quitting gambling is an option, they see quitting as a character of the weak, gambler a believes that when you are thinking about quitting might be your time to win, so this triggers them to gamble more, op do you know that addiction has a level, so I want to make you understand that all gambler has a particular percentage of addiction of if this said act in them, how do you know this, if you are a gambler any day you don't stake game, it will seem to you like you have missed so much that you could have win if you had stake a game, I want to categorically tel you that, it is not that easy for a gambler to control him or herself.

I think you mythologized gamblers a bit too much. Painting them as some sort of strong-willed characters that persevere against all odds is an exaggeration.
Most of the addicts (of any sort) are perfectly aware of the fact they have problems, but they lack of willingness to take any effort to take control of their habits.
I wouldn't say there are levels of gambling addiction, it's more of levels of human weakness.
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December 29, 2023, 01:27:19 PM
Happy Christmas to all gamblers. I have been reading some threads and comments that many people have been saying that they find it very difficult to stop gambling (not only gambling addicts), but on one hand, I really think that it is not hard to quit gambling even when you are winning and not winning, but it is you who can't control yourself. Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet. Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?
Self control is very important while gambling and it's even.more important that you add discipline to it as well because if you are neither disciplined nor controlled enough, you will most likely get addicted before you can realize it although like you did mentioned earlier the casino or the gambling house will not force you to gamble but your greed will.

If you can control yourself well enough all this wouldn't be much of a challenge to you because you can tell yourself when to stop and when not to continue gambling again so as to keep yourself from tending towards addiction. Once you can control yourself at gambling trust me you are gradually becoming an addict unknowingly and you can only stop if you start having that control over yourself. Whenever you still have that push and crave to stake even when you don't have money such that you have to go borrow to satisfy your craves no doubts you are addicted already.
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December 29, 2023, 01:10:40 PM
Honestly I can't say that people come just because they see the fun in it, because after all one can't lie to themselves when a losing streak is dominating and isn't that a situation that can be disappointing? Sure, I think they will really feel the fun when they can achieve their desire to win, but that kind of result is not easy to get. And one of the things that makes it difficult for gamblers to quit in my opinion is that there is an excessive expectation of winning even though losing is more common, the fact is that if they take gambling too seriously then they will enter the cycle of "winning addicted and losing curious" that is what makes it difficult for someone to quit in my opinion.
Responsible gamblers are those who can handle winning and losing. Of course, when you lose, it's natural to experience confusion and disappointment, but these feelings can be controlled well so that we don't dwell on that sadness, let alone wanting revenge.

All gamblers have experienced this cycle, even those who are pros have felt it before but this cycle is not sustainable, those who are pros can usually control this and even know when they are out and when they will continue playing. For me, people who are addicted to gambling don't stop at the right time, they can't control their own game, which can ruin their finances and even go bankrupt if they continue.

Exactly, sometimes people usually only suggest the good responsibility factor when gamblers are experiencing a lot of bad things in the sense of experiencing a lot of losses that make them upset, but actually in any situation good responsibility is really needed in my opinion, for example in a winning situation and that doesn't mean everything is over because obviously there are still some other indications that they are likely to do in such situations which we usually call greed. So the point is that responsibility is really needed and no matter what the situation is.

Yes basically all possible risks can be experienced by anyone because after all this is gambling which when you enter and get involved it means there will be two answers at the end of the session which is really unpredictable between winning and losing, no matter whether you are a professional or not but what is certain is that your loss is a profit for the casino, so of course self-control is a very important thing to do and emphasize, all that is to minimize everything especially so that you avoid addiction.
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December 28, 2023, 09:49:53 PM


But like I would always say for you to break away from gambling addiction as a gambler, you'll have to first of all accept your fate that you are an addicted gambler that needs help and wants to quit his addiction as that will help you in decision making as well as in minimizing your gambling engagement.
Quitting is not an easy thing and that is realized by everyone who has felt and gone through these times, friends.
Before taking steps to realize that he is a gambling player who is already at the level of addiction, he may not think about the causes and effects of what he will get when he decides to gamble.

This step must be paid attention to and remembered, that's why I say everything is controlled by the mind. Want to break this habit, then send it to my mind that I can stop this habit so that my body parts work according to the orders given by the brain. Basically, this can be recovered even though it has to go through a process that is not as easy as imagined.
If a gambler is already at the stage of addiction, it is indeed difficult to stop, it is not as easy as it seems, people can give advice like this and that, but gamblers who are already addicted will find it difficult to interpret it because they themselves are confused about how to stop if all that is in their brain is gambling without any other actions that encourage it to slowly stop, indeed usually people who gamble only think about profit and pleasure so they don't understand what risks they will take.

This step might help gamblers a little to control their thoughts so they can encourage their thoughts to stop gambling, indeed sometimes the thoughts in our brains are very influential, especially they can control us so we don't do things that are out of control, and if you want to stop your addiction You must be able to control your thoughts.
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December 28, 2023, 05:27:20 PM
Happy Christmas to all gamblers. I have been reading some threads and comments that many people have been saying that they find it very difficult to stop gambling (not only gambling addicts), but on one hand, I really think that it is not hard to quit gambling even when you are winning and not winning, but it is you who can't control yourself. Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet. Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?

Gambling is full of fun and this is undeniable, there's a way we can make a determination of not gambling again andyet we still finds it more interesting to continue with gambling, we are not able to overcome the urge we have towards gambling regardless of the consequences we are seing, some will not mind continuing with gambling even when they have lost countless times, maybe when we lack money on our bankroll, that may reduce the way we also gambles.

Honestly I can't say that people come just because they see the fun in it, because after all one can't lie to themselves when a losing streak is dominating and isn't that a situation that can be disappointing? Sure, I think they will really feel the fun when they can achieve their desire to win, but that kind of result is not easy to get. And one of the things that makes it difficult for gamblers to quit in my opinion is that there is an excessive expectation of winning even though losing is more common, the fact is that if they take gambling too seriously then they will enter the cycle of "winning addicted and losing curious" that is what makes it difficult for someone to quit in my opinion.
I like the school of thought you are coming from here, but in reality, it is not always like that. Fine, winning will excite us and give us the joy of it and perhaps the bettor could have fun, but I would like you to know that it is not all of them who are winning that have the fun. Many are just happy because they are lucky to have won and could misplace that for fun.

That is the same way that not all losers don't have fun with their betting, it has to do with the plan for the bettor and his mindset as well. Some gamblers like me could have known from the beginning that they were not opening their casino platform to make money but for entertainment. This means that their mindset is zero on the money which can be a hindrance to the fun. So if they play and lose, it can't affect them like those who have placed their minds on the money, and yet they have fun playing their favourite games. Again, when the gambler believes that he is playing with a little maount just to kill boredom or for the feelings of the moment to lift up the spirit a bit, there is no way this will not be entertaining. This is why I said it is all about the mindset of the player, and it gets worse if they are desperate to make the money and want to make it pretty fast.
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December 28, 2023, 03:50:44 PM
Happy Christmas to all gamblers. I have been reading some threads and comments that many people have been saying that they find it very difficult to stop gambling (not only gambling addicts), but on one hand, I really think that it is not hard to quit gambling even when you are winning and not winning, but it is you who can't control yourself. Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet. Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?

Op, don't see gambling as a habit that's easy to atop, gamblers are not quitters, they don't believe that quitting gambling is an option, they see quitting as a character of the weak, gambler a believes that when you are thinking about quitting might be your time to win, so this triggers them to gamble more, op do you know that addiction has a level, so I want to make you understand that all gambler has a particular percentage of addiction of if this said act in them, how do you know this, if you are a gambler any day you don't stake game, it will seem to you like you have missed so much that you could have win if you had stake a game, I want to categorically tel you that, it is not that easy for a gambler to control him or herself.
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December 28, 2023, 03:35:45 PM
Honestly I can't say that people come just because they see the fun in it, because after all one can't lie to themselves when a losing streak is dominating and isn't that a situation that can be disappointing? Sure, I think they will really feel the fun when they can achieve their desire to win, but that kind of result is not easy to get. And one of the things that makes it difficult for gamblers to quit in my opinion is that there is an excessive expectation of winning even though losing is more common, the fact is that if they take gambling too seriously then they will enter the cycle of "winning addicted and losing curious" that is what makes it difficult for someone to quit in my opinion.
Responsible gamblers are those who can handle winning and losing. Of course, when you lose, it's natural to experience confusion and disappointment, but these feelings can be controlled well so that we don't dwell on that sadness, let alone wanting revenge.

All gamblers have experienced this cycle, even those who are pros have felt it before but this cycle is not sustainable, those who are pros can usually control this and even know when they are out and when they will continue playing. For me, people who are addicted to gambling don't stop at the right time, they can't control their own game, which can ruin their finances and even go bankrupt if they continue.
But becoming one would really be just that depending or basing up into someones self control and we do know that not all would really be having that discipline or control towards gambling and this is why most people would really be messing up their lives just because of too much involvement and this is why it isnt really that shocking that results and outcomes would really be that totally different to each other. There are ones who do really be able to control and there are ones who do wrecked up because of wrong decisions in life. Gambling isnt bad as long you do find yourself that responsible
because if you dont really have that control then expect those results and outcomes would really be that entirely negative and this is something that we must avoid in the first place.
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December 28, 2023, 03:32:21 PM
Honestly I can't say that people come just because they see the fun in it, because after all one can't lie to themselves when a losing streak is dominating and isn't that a situation that can be disappointing? Sure, I think they will really feel the fun when they can achieve their desire to win, but that kind of result is not easy to get. And one of the things that makes it difficult for gamblers to quit in my opinion is that there is an excessive expectation of winning even though losing is more common, the fact is that if they take gambling too seriously then they will enter the cycle of "winning addicted and losing curious" that is what makes it difficult for someone to quit in my opinion.
Responsible gamblers are those who can handle winning and losing. Of course, when you lose, it's natural to experience confusion and disappointment, but these feelings can be controlled well so that we don't dwell on that sadness, let alone wanting revenge.

All gamblers have experienced this cycle, even those who are pros have felt it before but this cycle is not sustainable, those who are pros can usually control this and even know when they are out and when they will continue playing. For me, people who are addicted to gambling don't stop at the right time, they can't control their own game, which can ruin their finances and even go bankrupt if they continue.
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December 28, 2023, 03:24:12 PM
Happy Christmas to all gamblers. I have been reading some threads and comments that many people have been saying that they find it very difficult to stop gambling (not only gambling addicts), but on one hand, I really think that it is not hard to quit gambling even when you are winning and not winning, but it is you who can't control yourself. Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet.
It doesn't matter whether you are winning or not. And if you're saying that it's not hard to win in your best shape, no one's going to quit when he's winning. We have to remember that when you're at the best moments of your life and you're winning, you just don't want to see it stop and that's why no gambler is thinking that he should quit by that time when he's got all of the money that he's winning. We as gamblers are the ones responsible for our actions and whether we continue or not, it is our own will that will be forcing us to do it.

Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?
How can a gambler do gambling when he didn't learn it in the first place? It is quite confusing but it seems that you see it as a willful action that we do. As you are saying these people can't control themselves and are dependent on their own course of action. They are not yet addicted but the time shall come that they will because of how they're not able to control it. When someone is experiencing out of control, you can say that they're about to get addicted and no one is able to help themselves but only them. And of course, no one's gonna stop them from betting but only themselves.
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December 28, 2023, 03:19:12 PM
Happy Christmas to all gamblers. I have been reading some threads and comments that many people have been saying that they find it very difficult to stop gambling (not only gambling addicts), but on one hand, I really think that it is not hard to quit gambling even when you are winning and not winning, but it is you who can't control yourself. Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet. Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?

Gambling is full of fun and this is undeniable, there's a way we can make a determination of not gambling again andyet we still finds it more interesting to continue with gambling, we are not able to overcome the urge we have towards gambling regardless of the consequences we are seing, some will not mind continuing with gambling even when they have lost countless times, maybe when we lack money on our bankroll, that may reduce the way we also gambles.

Honestly I can't say that people come just because they see the fun in it, because after all one can't lie to themselves when a losing streak is dominating and isn't that a situation that can be disappointing? Sure, I think they will really feel the fun when they can achieve their desire to win, but that kind of result is not easy to get. And one of the things that makes it difficult for gamblers to quit in my opinion is that there is an excessive expectation of winning even though losing is more common, the fact is that if they take gambling too seriously then they will enter the cycle of "winning addicted and losing curious" that is what makes it difficult for someone to quit in my opinion.

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December 28, 2023, 03:06:58 PM
Happy Christmas to all gamblers. I have been reading some threads and comments that many people have been saying that they find it very difficult to stop gambling (not only gambling addicts), but on one hand, I really think that it is not hard to quit gambling even when you are winning and not winning, but it is you who can't control yourself. Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet. Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?
I mean in practice there is really nothing that's stopping you from quitting when you're already losing or winning. But somehow it's easier said than done when you haven't been put in the position of losing a lot of money with no real way to return. I felt that form of desperation before, the thing is that this drives gamblers to go to such lengths that you'd otherwise think they are already sick in the head or something. And that's why in some way, I sympathize with those who aren't able to stop betting even after losing stupendous amounts of money. I don't say it's right, I'm saying there's a method to their madness.

In most cases you wouldn't really be able to quit cold turkey, but if in any case you couldn't, I say the best way for you to quit is to let your whole bankroll be zeroed, and move on from there. This gives you a full stop that you can't ignore, and even if the itch of getting your money back comes around, as long as you have people around you who support you this wouldn't really stress you so much as you think it would. It happened to me before. The thing is that you'd fare better against gambling addiction if you have people around you that you can depend upon. People who can distract you from the thoughts that are going on in your head and the urges you get every now and again to gamble.
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December 28, 2023, 02:04:15 PM
Quit gambling for what reason, if the process is turning to an addiction then that's when the person can quit but it's not so easy as we think, i dont like blaming gamblers who are addicted, firstly everyone have an addiction they're fighting with so if someone else addiction has to do with gambling there's  no big deal but the problem now it can lead to debt, selling of property, causing suicide or discrimination, the best thing is to change and such people needs help from others like friends or colleague they can't just change on their own without going back, firstly if a person decides to change the mindset should be the first target cause building the mindset matters a lot, going back to that act still shows the person is not ready to change maybe they find pleasure in doing it.
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December 28, 2023, 01:26:59 PM
there is a main reason why it is very difficult to stop gambling, curiosity and secondly wanting to have a lot of money instantly, very rarely do people play just for fun but looking to win
You forget about chasing losses, and this is one of the reason why many are still coming back and still gamble.
Many gamblers are being too emotional and they don't know how to control themselves which is very normal for a addicted gambler.
If you want a happy life then know when to stop and know when to gamble, you have to set limit or better to stop gambling at all.
If you are still coming back and you think it's already an issue for you, then start seeking for a professional help.
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December 28, 2023, 01:13:41 PM
there is a main reason why it is very difficult to stop gambling, curiosity and secondly wanting to have a lot of money instantly, very rarely do people play just for fun but looking to win
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