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Quote from: Su-asa on December 25, 2023, 09:15:10 AM

(...)Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?

People do what they want, and their responsibility follows that desired behavior. So there's no good reason to do anything without responsibility. I'm also a gambler, but not to the extent of being into it. I'm conscious of finding small joys through this field, And it fits perfectly. It would be unreasonable if we kept imposing our personal opinions on others, saying that what they do makes you uncomfortable

. Similar to many other things in life, we cannot force a person who does not have the habit of reading books to give up the daily pleasure of watching TikTok and switch to reading books in search of knowledge, which is inherently a difficult life. In different contexts, we experience things in opposite ways, but it's okay, just do what you feel is right, even if you don't think about responsibility, you will have to bear the consequences. It is like a fairness present in life.

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Quote from: Su-asa on December 25, 2023, 09:15:10 AM

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Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?

because people believe it is a question of luck and not of mathematics/study/statistics/probability/study etc etc...

as soon as you realize these aspects, and play in this way, you realize that you don't have to rely on anything related to "chance" but you have to be "scientific" in your approach.

how many gamblers play on that way?

In my opinion this is a rational way to look at a question that is emotional
Gamblers don’t keep gambling only for the hope of winning but also for the small dopamine hits and neurotransmitters imbalances

I’d love to see some cross research about other areas of the life of compulsive gamblers…

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Quote from: Su-asa on December 25, 2023, 09:15:10 AM

I have been reading some threads and comments that many people have been saying that they find it very difficult to stop gambling (not only gambling addicts), but on one hand, I really think that it is not hard to quit gambling even when you are winning and not winning, but it is you who can't control yourself. Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet. Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?

It's not right to make this kind of statement without fully understanding what's going on in the mind of a gambling addict, you have to put yourself in their situation to understand how hard for them to stop their addiction to gambling, there are no magic words that make them stop gambling, they need to be rehabilitated and it takes months or years to get that addiction out of their system.
Control is not easy when you start with the wrong mindset, and that wrong mindset is trying to make money when it is impossible to make money from gambling because the house will always beat us if you are contented with your winning and treat it as an entertainment you have the right mindset.

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Quote from: Su-asa on December 25, 2023, 09:15:10 AM

Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet.

Of course bets doesn't force itself to gamblers neither does gamblers forces their selves on gambling instead the gambling games are spiced and twistedly interesting and entices the gamblers to gamble on it.
On the note, you are either decided to gamble bet for fun or for profits specifically dependant on what your insightment is visioned on the gambling board that attracts to to stake on the game.

Quote from: Su-asa on December 25, 2023, 09:15:10 AM

Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?

To my best of research, whosoever gambler who does not have the ability to stop gambling at when supposed to and yet continues gambling is termed a gambler who can not take control of its emotions better known as a gambling addict else any other gambler who posseses the ability to control its emotions and take control of when to stop and when not to depending on its gambling bankrolls is not an addicted gambler.

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Quitting gambling will be very hard. Yes, it's because of the gambler itself. That's why it's hard for them to stop gambling or betting. Even if they know the consequences or are suffering from the consequences, it's still hard for them to stop as it's not about addiction; it's about the gambling itself embedded in their mind and body, and that's what they long for. It's like a food that is very delicious and you can easily erase it from your taste.

That's why it takes a lot of effort and time for a gambler to fully quit and control themselves from gambling, as it can't be erased immediately or instantly. It will take a long time to process; it can take months or years for them to limit or fully control themselves from excessive gambling. Anyway its important for a gambler as early as possible to have control over their gambling.

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Quote from: Su-asa on December 25, 2023, 09:15:10 AM

Happy Christmas to all gamblers. I have been reading some threads and comments that many people have been saying that they find it very difficult to stop gambling (not only gambling addicts), but on one hand, I really think that it is not hard to quit gambling even when you are winning and not winning, but it is you who can't control yourself. Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet. Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?

I do not agree with you that it is not hard to quit gambling, it is actually hard to quit, especially if you are addicted. What is actually easier to do is moderating it from the very beginning, once you can regulate yourself earlier whether you win or not, the tendency for you to have gambling problem will be low. Addiction is not just something to joke with, it is a disease, a disease that affects the mind. Just like every other type of disease, it starts when you do not take health/hygienic precautions. With time, you begin to see signs and symptoms, and if still left untreated or uncared for, it develops into something more serious and harmful.

Gambling addiction works this way too. It affects your mind that you do not have control over your urge anymore. With time it begins to affect your finances, your relationships, your job and even your general wellbeing. If a gambler is able to control himself while gambling, he cannot be said to be addicted. Addiction means "lack of control" and in most cases, you need external help to overcome.

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In several posts I always mention that it is not gambling that is wrong, it is ourselves who are wrong, both in understanding gambling itself and when playing it. because whether gambling is good or not depends on who plays it.
On the one hand, gambling can be very beneficial by making gambling a place to relieve stress and find fun. But on the other hand, gambling can also be very detrimental. In fact, quite a few people can be financially, economically and even have their families destroyed, just because of carelessness in gambling.

And it is true that gambling addiction can not only be triggered by external factors, but internal factors also greatly influence it. For someone who is quite aggressive and ambitious in gambling, most of them find it very difficult to control themselves and their emotions when gambling. And they also find it difficult to make the right decisions when placing bets, so it is very easy for them to become addicted to gambling.

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Quote from: Su-asa on December 25, 2023, 09:15:10 AM

Happy Christmas to all gamblers. I have been reading some threads and comments that many people have been saying that they find it very difficult to stop gambling (not only gambling addicts), but on one hand, I really think that it is not hard to quit gambling even when you are winning and not winning, but it is you who can't control yourself. Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet. Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?

There is a very thin line between not being able to control oneself in gambling, and being a gambling addict.
This line is actually so thin that it's very hard to tell whether that gambler who is constantly playing is actually addicted to the game, or just lack self control.

And on the other hand, what could lead to lack of self control in gambling is also losses, when a gambler have lost much more than he or she planned for, or budgeted for, this can actually lead to lost of self control as the gambler is clearly chasing after his loses, hoping to see if he or she could win back some of the money he or she lost, this is what leads most gamblers into actually becoming addicted to gambling.

So, going by the above facts, I think it's wrong to judge or blame gamblers who seem not to be able to help themselves out of gambling anymore, what i think is best is for us to encourage them to try and get over their loses in gambling, for chasing after it can only lead to more loses.

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Quote from: Su-asa on December 25, 2023, 09:15:10 AM

Happy Christmas to all gamblers. I have been reading some threads and comments that many people have been saying that they find it very difficult to stop gambling (not only gambling addicts), but on one hand, I really think that it is not hard to quit gambling even when you are winning and not winning, but it is you who can't control yourself. Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet. Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?

I think it's just a difference in mindset? It's similar to how people who don't really have depression sometimes see it as something vague, imaginary even. People who can stop gambling at a moment's notice don't really view it the same as people who can't stop gambling, simple as that. An explanation wouldn't really matter much at that point since it's rather vague at where the line is drawn, but it's definitely there. It can be because of varying reasons but at the end of the day, they just won't stop. I have nothing to say really, I mean if you were to tell someone to be careful outside, would that be a guarantee that they'd listen? No. Same here. Even if we tell a gambler that you can stop a thousand times, it's not a guaranteed thing they'd listen.

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The sense of control is what many humans lack and they don't care to look into it and maybe develop in such area, but the others that do can dominate in anything, if they found gambling to be a threat they are always ready to neutralise the threat, this is my one mentality too.

I don't smoke and I don't drink, I have friends that do these and they failed to turn me into a smoker or a drinker, I do things my own way and my yes is anyways a yes, if I don't like something and I have made up my mind to stay away, it's a forever goodbye, because I ain't coming back, it's the way I treat people too, if my energy doesn't match with yours, all I owe you is good morning and good night, if we happen to take the same route.

I don't buy the idea of something getting you into an unending pain and you still stick to it, knowing that it's killing you, it's either you run from it or you find a way to maintain your losses dealing with such thing, it's not that hard.

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Quote from: Su-asa on December 25, 2023, 09:15:10 AM

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Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?

because people believe it is a question of luck and not of mathematics/study/statistics/probability/study etc etc...

as soon as you realize these aspects, and play in this way, you realize that you don't have to rely on anything related to "chance" but you have to be "scientific" in your approach.

how many gamblers play on that way?

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I think you are wrong..... Gambling are developed to reel you in slowly, until you are addicted. (If you are inclined to it) Just look at the mechanism behind slots, where it will give you small wins on a regular basis to keep you going for hours.

It will never just take your money on one continuous streak, because they know small boost of endorphins will have you searching for more and more of those chemicals.... so they just give you frequent small wins and slowly drain your balance over time. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Su-asa on December 25, 2023, 09:15:10 AM

Happy Christmas to all gamblers. I have been reading some threads and comments that many people have been saying that they find it very difficult to stop gambling (not only gambling addicts), but on one hand, I really think that it is not hard to quit gambling even when you are winning and not winning, but it is you who can't control yourself. Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet. Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?

I'm not against in everything you said because they are valuable points , but that does not stand for real gambler , the more they tend to stop is the more eagerness comes and stops them from stopping .
you can hold that to me as a former addicted gambler, not until i found the way out but as long as the person is in gambling ,and really engaging? sorry but those aren't applicable by all means .

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Quote from: Su-asa on December 25, 2023, 09:15:10 AM

Happy Christmas to all gamblers. I have been reading some threads and comments that many people have been saying that they find it very difficult to stop gambling (not only gambling addicts), but on one hand, I really think that it is not hard to quit gambling even when you are winning and not winning, but it is you who can't control yourself. Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet. Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?

I'll call this the power of urge, it controls the mind that if you don't bow to it you won't get yourself till you just satisfy the urge. That is why gambler must Learn and never allow the habit of gambling to get into their head because the urge in gambling is something that can not be controlled. The things people do to play gambling is due to the strong urge they have in gambling.

You can make good decisions when you are not addicted, but once the addiction is in someone it won't be possible for one to make decisions and keep to it. One of the things that make people to be addicted in gamble is when you think you can always make money from gambling, having do much confidence in gambling has really led many people in addiction which they have been struggling with to stop but they still keep on obeying their urge.

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Quote from: piebeyb on December 26, 2023, 04:10:33 AM

Everyone has different abilities in terms of controlling themselves, but I'm sure everyone can recover completely from gambling addiction, but it looks like it's being exaggerated and made very complicated, even though in fact it can be forced to recover, but maybe there are people who does not have the ability to force himself to stop completely, so we cannot generalize to ourselves who might be able to control it.

I also think people should feel confident that they can stop their bad habits by looking at other people, planting words in their minds like "if other people can why can't I", I think by motivating and pressuring yourself anyone can definitely do it. stop gambling and the most important thing is also about how we cultivate a mindset that must be more positive when gambling. Grin

This is true, each of us has a different ways to control ourself when it comes to gambling, and All I can say is that not everyone has the ability to control themselves, sometimes it's really hard for them especially if no one can help them. That's one of the reason why many people has been tagging as a gambling addict even at the back of their mind, they don't want to become like that, Even though they did everything they could to avoid becoming a gambling addict, they eventually became so.

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Everyone has different abilities in terms of controlling themselves, but I'm sure everyone can recover completely from gambling addiction, but it looks like it's being exaggerated and made very complicated, even though in fact it can be forced to recover, but maybe there are people who does not have the ability to force himself to stop completely, so we cannot generalize to ourselves who might be able to control it.

I also think people should feel confident that they can stop their bad habits by looking at other people, planting words in their minds like "if other people can why can't I", I think by motivating and pressuring yourself anyone can definitely do it. stop gambling and the most important thing is also about how we cultivate a mindset that must be more positive when gambling. Grin

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It is us who always to be blame because we are the one who's responsible about the result of our gambling activities, its just sometimes hard to accept that reality.
we tend to keep blaming gambling, people and even the bankers but we are not looking at the mirror to find whos at fault.

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Quote from: Su-asa on December 25, 2023, 09:15:10 AM

Happy Christmas to all gamblers. I have been reading some threads and comments that many people have been saying that they find it very difficult to stop gambling (not only gambling addicts), but on one hand, I really think that it is not hard to quit gambling even when you are winning and not winning, but it is you who can't control yourself. Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet. Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?

It is not hard to quit gambling if you are not addicted. But in a case wherein a gambler can't control himself, then it means he is already addicted. Regardless of if you are winning or losing, when you are not addicted, then it would be easy to quit since you know how gambling works and aware that losing is inevitable. That being said, we should expect that we're likely to lose our money when we use it to play.

A gambler who are not able to control himself/herself has a gambling problem. You'll know and understand these things if you are a gambler yourself.

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Quote from: Su-asa on December 25, 2023, 09:15:10 AM

Happy Christmas to all gamblers. I have been reading some threads and comments that many people have been saying that they find it very difficult to stop gambling (not only gambling addicts), but on one hand, I really think that it is not hard to quit gambling even when you are winning and not winning, but it is you who can't control yourself. Bets can not force one to stake, but a gambler can force themselves to stake a bet, even when he or she does not have money to bet. Some gamblers did not learn how to gamble. They just see themselves doing it, but they can't stop it. Why because they can't control themselves, even when they are not an addicted gambler?
What do we have to say about this?

Are you a gambler yourself? have you managed to win Multiple times with bigger amount?

- if Yes then I may understand your sentiment here yet will say that we are all different in treating things.

- if No then you have no rights to just tell Gamblers how easy it is because it's not mate, trust me its even harder as you play longer.

Like what most said? "Easy said than Done"

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OP have you tried gambling yourself? Because it seems you don't know why people are easily becoming an addict to gambling, money issues is why many people becomes a gambler, and those who control themselves are there not only for money purposes.

I see that those who want some thrilling and exciting time prefer to watch sports games and it doesn't matter if they place bet or not, but majority of the gamblers in the world get involved only to make money, it's easier to say that they are not in control of themselves but there is more to that desire of theirs, conditions and their present state is why they are in gambling, hoping to have some changes.

What they are doing is not totally right, because the problem of poverty can't be solved using gambling, they are better off looking for work to get paid monthly, someone who makes good income every month and still a gambler is better than someone who have nothing and still choose to become a gambler.

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