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Quote from: zuzie on December 24, 2021, 07:59:31 PM

For the UCL zone it is not difficult for Juventus, there is still a very big opportunity there but it's still a shame to see Juventus fighting for the UCL zone Juventus should be on the title track.

It should be, but we don't know what to happen in the next half-season. Indeed, Juventus ideally compete for the title, not target to finish in UCL zone only. But they lost too many points in the early season because they have no strong strikers after Ronaldo left. Now, it is already much better, they look more confident and solidly. If they have no problem in attacking line anymore, no doubt they will be safe in the top 3.

Well that's what I mean when checking the history of Juventus matches looks fine last lost against Atalanta Next 4 wins 1 draw not bad results right
Juventus has 2 important games this week Against Napoli and Roma here Juventus is tested if Juventus won both matches then this is a positive thing for the title.

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Quote from: zuzie on December 24, 2021, 07:59:31 PM

For the UCL zone it is not difficult for Juventus, there is still a very big opportunity there but it's still a shame to see Juventus fighting for the UCL zone Juventus should be on the title track.

It should be, but we don't know what to happen in the next half-season. Indeed, Juventus ideally compete for the title, not target to finish in UCL zone only. But they lost too many points in the early season because they have no strong strikers after Ronaldo left. Now, it is already much better, they look more confident and solidly. If they have no problem in attacking line anymore, no doubt they will be safe in the top 3.

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Quote from: coderben on December 25, 2021, 06:40:37 PM

We see an Inter - Milan rivalry again for being the champions of the Serie A. We witnessed this in the last season and Inter started pulling away a lot after a point. This time, Milan will focus on not letting the same thing happen again consecutively. As they are out of the European tournaments now too, their main focus is going to be the Serie A of course. While Inter have the Champions League to focus on also, I hope that Milan could benefit from it and we can see a different title winner this time.

AC Milan without participated on Champion league or Europe League after eliminate on group stage on stuck as top bottom position standing after loss from Liverpool, Atletico Madrid and FC Porto. Serie A as once opportunity except still Copa as their challenge to get trophy in this year and I think is hard for Milan how can playing consistent, they faced the same problem like last years and now last three match they not consistent after defeating by Napoli and getting draw with Udinese, they miss two chance to get full points and now left four points from Inter Milan as standing first position.

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Quote from: coderben on December 25, 2021, 06:40:37 PM

We see an Inter - Milan rivalry again for being the champions of the Serie A. We witnessed this in the last season and Inter started pulling away a lot after a point. This time, Milan will focus on not letting the same thing happen again consecutively. As they are out of the European tournaments now too, their main focus is going to be the Serie A of course. While Inter have the Champions League to focus on also, I hope that Milan could benefit from it and we can see a different title winner this time.

They don't have another choice and they must focus well on the serie a and not wast any chance to be the champions, im one of the persons that believe Milan can be the champion but only if they don't repeat the previous year scenario

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We see an Inter - Milan rivalry again for being the champions of the Serie A. We witnessed this in the last season and Inter started pulling away a lot after a point. This time, Milan will focus on not letting the same thing happen again consecutively. As they are out of the European tournaments now too, their main focus is going to be the Serie A of course. While Inter have the Champions League to focus on also, I hope that Milan could benefit from it and we can see a different title winner this time.

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 25, 2021, 05:13:37 PM

Yes, I know this - the bookmakers protect themselves from the mood of the crowd and accidents and offer the odds balanced so that in any outcome they will remain in the black. Obviously, the mood of the crowd is now very optimistic towards Juventus.
I had the idea to make this bet (although I do not like long-term bets): I believe that Inter, Napoli and Milan will be higher than Juventus, which means that by making a multi-bet I will get the odds of 1.2x7.5x7.5 = 67.5 Lol!

In January we will know.
It will be the key Mont for juventus since they will play versus Napoli Milan and Roma.

If I remember correctly only Napoli at home and the others two are away games.

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I just looked at the long-term quotes of Juventus and was very surprised - it looks like the bookmakers consider it the favorite in the fight for the 2nd place:

Serie A 2021/22 - w/o Juventus Turin
Inter - 1.22
Napoli - 7.50
Milan - 7.50
Atalanta - 7.50
https://stake.com/sports/outright/soccer/italy/serie-a/41984153-serie-a-21-22

Did I understand these odds correctly? For me, they look like illogical and I do not believe that Juventus will end the season in 2nd place above all these clubs.

Odds are influenced by the amount of money in a bet.

If I'm going to point 100Bilions on Juventus winner the odd on the website will go to 1.01 or they will never be able to pay out in case of winning.

Yes, I know this - the bookmakers protect themselves from the mood of the crowd and accidents and offer the odds balanced so that in any outcome they will remain in the black. Obviously, the mood of the crowd is now very optimistic towards Juventus.
I had the idea to make this bet (although I do not like long-term bets): I believe that Inter, Napoli and Milan will be higher than Juventus, which means that by making a multi-bet I will get the odds of 1.2x7.5x7.5 = 67.5 Lol!

That's very wired and i wonder what effect the ods in such situations, maybe the amount of money wagered for juventus also have a effect but why people think that juventus can get it? That's the question

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 25, 2021, 05:13:37 PM

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 25, 2021, 06:54:45 AM

I just looked at the long-term quotes of Juventus and was very surprised - it looks like the bookmakers consider it the favorite in the fight for the 2nd place:

Serie A 2021/22 - w/o Juventus Turin
Inter - 1.22
Napoli - 7.50
Milan - 7.50
Atalanta - 7.50
https://stake.com/sports/outright/soccer/italy/serie-a/41984153-serie-a-21-22

Did I understand these odds correctly? For me, they look like illogical and I do not believe that Juventus will end the season in 2nd place above all these clubs.

Odds are influenced by the amount of money in a bet.

If I'm going to point 100Bilions on Juventus winner the odd on the website will go to 1.01 or they will never be able to pay out in case of winning.

Yes, I know this - the bookmakers protect themselves from the mood of the crowd and accidents and offer the odds balanced so that in any outcome they will remain in the black. Obviously, the mood of the crowd is now very optimistic towards Juventus.
I had the idea to make this bet (although I do not like long-term bets): I believe that Inter, Napoli and Milan will be higher than Juventus, which means that by making a multi-bet I will get the odds of 1.2x7.5x7.5 = 67.5 Lol!

but if you look at it from several aspects, it's actually quite good for people who really want to do multi and as you calculated, the chances are good enough to do that I think.
But long-term bets are too boring and make me less enthusiastic about living it even though I get a profit but it is too long for me

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on December 25, 2021, 11:23:28 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on December 25, 2021, 06:54:45 AM

I just looked at the long-term quotes of Juventus and was very surprised - it looks like the bookmakers consider it the favorite in the fight for the 2nd place:

Serie A 2021/22 - w/o Juventus Turin
Inter - 1.22
Napoli - 7.50
Milan - 7.50
Atalanta - 7.50
https://stake.com/sports/outright/soccer/italy/serie-a/41984153-serie-a-21-22

Did I understand these odds correctly? For me, they look like illogical and I do not believe that Juventus will end the season in 2nd place above all these clubs.

Odds are influenced by the amount of money in a bet.

If I'm going to point 100Bilions on Juventus winner the odd on the website will go to 1.01 or they will never be able to pay out in case of winning.

Yes, I know this - the bookmakers protect themselves from the mood of the crowd and accidents and offer the odds balanced so that in any outcome they will remain in the black. Obviously, the mood of the crowd is now very optimistic towards Juventus.
I had the idea to make this bet (although I do not like long-term bets): I believe that Inter, Napoli and Milan will be higher than Juventus, which means that by making a multi-bet I will get the odds of 1.2x7.5x7.5 = 67.5 Lol!

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It is really fearsome that Inter are already in a very advantageous condition in the league standings now. By saying "fearsome", I meant that I'm afraid of the possibility that the competition level for the Serie A title can go down much earlier than I hoped. Maybe Milan would manage to keep up with them for so many weeks but we might see a competition only between these two teams. In fact, I want a competition among at least three teams for the title. And for the third team, the most probable candidate is Napoli. But they started to screw things up for themselves recently.

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Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on December 25, 2021, 07:30:07 AM

Quote from: judas on December 25, 2021, 07:02:06 AM

Inter are in a very great situation now. They are not just dominating the league. In the recent times, their closest opponents to them in the standings had really difficult games too while Inter were having much easier ones. And this was another factor that helped Inter open the gap with them more.

Inter Milan players have more experience than AC Milan players in Scudetto competition and it can help them to win it in this season. However, if the Scudetto race is only between AC Milan and Inter Milan that I doubt it won't be like that, AC Milan won't let Inter Milan to win this race too easily. It is like a bigger Milan derby, a derby for Scudetto.

I would guess that there will be a bit of difference for sure. I mean imagine it this way, if Inter keeps winning more and more, and Milan still has a bit of rare loss and tie here and there, the gap will be a lot bigger. I mean look at how well Inter has been going lately, and yes Milan is not bad neither but they look like a typical team that ends at the second position.

The difference is that both teams dominate the league easily, but one ends up losing unexpectedly. Same happened to Liverpool before as well, City dominated the league easily, Liverpool did as well and they beat everyone by a large margin but ended up with unexpected losses or ties here and there. I am not saying Milan is a bad team, they have the ability to beat any team in the league including Inter, but then they end up losing to a midtable team out of nowhere and cause themselves trouble.

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Quote from: DU18 on December 25, 2021, 08:31:37 AM

Quote from: judas on December 25, 2021, 07:02:06 AM

Inter are in a very great situation now. They are not just dominating the league. In the recent times, their closest opponents to them in the standings had really difficult games too while Inter were having much easier ones. And this was another factor that helped Inter open the gap with them more. However, Inter still showed a much better performance when all of top teams played easier games. Milan and Napoli made simple loss of points and this made things worse for themselves. And now, I see that Inter have another opportunity to open this gap more. Because Milan and Napoli both are going to have very difficult games next time. These games are: Juventus - Napoli, Milan - Roma.

I think currently Intermil's position is not safe enough in the league, because they are only a few point of AC Milan in the second position, Intermilan performance this season is really beyond the predictions of many people who underestimated them at the start of the season, but the consistency of the game shown by Intermilan making them now strong candidates for the championship, in my opinion, Intermilan this season played quite well and they were also quite lucky because rival teams such as Napoli and AC Milan experienced a decline in performance which caused them to lose points, thus making Inter Milan quite easy to become champions half season.

I agree with what you said and indeed this is very far from what I expected because at the start of the game they were very bad in form but after the middle of the season they surprised me with their good performance and a series of wins continued to be their capital to stay in their current position. this.
Their last 7 matches are unbeaten and even their productivity is far superior to other teams in Serie A at the moment.
But in January they will face quite strong teams Lazio, Atalanta are dark horses now and don't underestimate Juventus either, the only match that is easy enough to face is against Bologna in January

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Quote from: KTChampions on December 25, 2021, 06:54:45 AM

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Odds are influenced by the amount of money in a bet.

If I'm going to point 100Bilions on Juventus winner the odd on the website will go to 1.01 or they will never be able to pay out in case of winning.

Indeed, the money placed to back a team is taken on consideration but that isn't the only nor the principal factor.
If Inter will face a random team from Serie D and someone put million for the victory of that Serie D team, we will never see it @1.01 and Inter @50 or else the site will be broken before the end of the game Wink

The actual results shows that Juve improved and can compete the other teams which is good.

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Turns out this match is still quite long Cheesy

Indeed, this has turned upside down and Juventus is back to being more stable than before but I think I'm pretty sure Allegri's men can win at home.
Usually Napoli with its slump will continue against big teams, this is like a trial that must be faced with a strong mentality if you want to maintain points.

Kinda funny actually. Napoli have been leading the Serie A table quite well without previous defeats, but they have dropped so many points after the first defeat till now. The same thing happened with AC Milan where they are currently 4 points behind Inter at the top of the table.

Juventus vs Napoli, I think they drew. However, Napoli's poor performance will only make them unseeded against Juventus who have now found their best performance. Could Juventus have moved on from Ronaldo? Cheesy

But don't forget, Napoli is a team that has a solid defense even though in the last few match its performance has dropped. They have only conceded 14 goals or less than all the other teams in Serie A, so Juventus will be fighting hard in this match.

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Quote from: hahay on December 25, 2021, 01:04:43 PM

Maybe this will be the exact moment to avenge the defeat in the first match at the start of this season, at that time Juventus lost 2-1 by Napoli. But even so, the reality at that time was even though Juventus' condition was not yet stable, Juventus could lead first at half time with 0-1. Now, it's like both things are upside down, like Napoli going downhill and Juventus slowly getting back to their best. With situations like this, I'm pretty sure Juventus will take advantage of this moment to win.

Turns out this match is still quite long Cheesy

Indeed, this has turned upside down and Juventus is back to being more stable than before but I think I'm pretty sure Allegri's men can win at home.
Usually Napoli with its slump will continue against big teams, this is like a trial that must be faced with a strong mentality if you want to maintain points.

Seeing recent performance from Juventus, its worth to be on 3rd place now but yes points are required. But their performance is so good and yes they are back on track though they initially lost many matches. When compared to Napoli and Atalanta, Juventus is performing well now a days. Napoli lost to Spezia who is on 17th place with 0:1. Napoli has to come back to be on top positions as Juventus is really performing well and they have hardly few more points to reach them.

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Quote from: hahay on December 25, 2021, 01:04:43 PM

Maybe this will be the exact moment to avenge the defeat in the first match at the start of this season, at that time Juventus lost 2-1 by Napoli. But even so, the reality at that time was even though Juventus' condition was not yet stable, Juventus could lead first at half time with 0-1. Now, it's like both things are upside down, like Napoli going downhill and Juventus slowly getting back to their best. With situations like this, I'm pretty sure Juventus will take advantage of this moment to win.

Turns out this match is still quite long Cheesy

Indeed, this has turned upside down and Juventus is back to being more stable than before but I think I'm pretty sure Allegri's men can win at home.
Usually Napoli with its slump will continue against big teams, this is like a trial that must be faced with a strong mentality if you want to maintain points.

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I'm a big fan and will always be of de Light,from his playing day's at Ajax and down to Juventus.
Good to see him playing much more games this season, he's been pairing very well with captain Bonnucci, learning and adapting fast.
Talking about the Juventus team, Moise Kean misses clear cut chances, Morata isn't at his best unlike before,the only I'll rate highly is Chiesa,who they did loss to injuries several occasions.
If this can be handled, I don't want to talk loads Allegri should know better and what's suits the team.

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Interesting match, although in the last game Juventus lost it was just a statistic. Juventus have not been good this season. But the chances of winning are always there. Juventus will play at home. They're not a bottom team, I think the game will be exciting. At least this is the moment for Juventus to rise. I think the draw was fair enough for the final result.

Juventus managed to improve their performance and maintain a consistent victory in the last few matches because previously Juventus had suffered 5 defeats and 4 draws from a total of 19 match. For Juventus vs Napoli, I think both teams still have a chance to win regardless of who will be the favourite. Even though Napoli dropped quite a lot of points of late but they are still very strong as a team. So Juventus need to be careful with Napoli if they are to aim for victory.

Maybe this will be the exact moment to avenge the defeat in the first match at the start of this season, at that time Juventus lost 2-1 by Napoli. But even so, the reality at that time was even though Juventus' condition was not yet stable, Juventus could lead first at half time with 0-1. Now, it's like both things are upside down, like Napoli going downhill and Juventus slowly getting back to their best. With situations like this, I'm pretty sure Juventus will take advantage of this moment to win.

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Anyway just read Buffon in the news saying Ronaldo killed the soul of Juventus and I think a lot of people can agree. This should be their priority if they care long term.

He killed the team spirit, for sure. Ronaldo is a superstar and a winner. But he is also a selfish player with a big ego. He comes first, Juventus is second. That's not the way Juventus works. Juventus has a history of winning not because they always had the better players than other teams, but because they sacrificed more and worked harder to correct their flaws. They also had players who loved their team and were proud to present it. Those days are gone now. Juventus invests too much in non-Italians and that won't work. People can't even spell loyalty and they are only interested in the next pay check and bigger contracts.

Juventus' biggest mistake is not a player but a manger. General Manager Giuseppe Marotta (now at Inter).

I will agree with you about Cristiano Ronaldo been selfish, having ego, chasing he's personal record's and goals ahead of Juventus.
I won't say/wouldn't agree on the fact that they lack a coach, take a good look at home Seria A tittles Allegri won with the old ladies.
They lack good players, more of the midfielder's, take a good look at the squad now and the way it was in times when Paul Pogba, Andrea Pirlo all played, much difference.
Allegri can still do the job, he needs to build a stronger team to come stronger.

I still think that the biggest problem for juventus is in attack, they need to have some players to score goals, and that's what they need in my opinion. I don't know what the coach and club direction will do about this problem of lack of goal-scoring players, but they should take it seriously if they want to go far in Serie A

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Quote from: Luzin on December 25, 2021, 11:21:06 AM

Interesting match, although in the last game Juventus lost it was just a statistic. Juventus have not been good this season. But the chances of winning are always there. Juventus will play at home. They're not a bottom team, I think the game will be exciting. At least this is the moment for Juventus to rise. I think the draw was fair enough for the final result.

Juventus managed to improve their performance and maintain a consistent victory in the last few matches because previously Juventus had suffered 5 defeats and 4 draws from a total of 19 match. For Juventus vs Napoli, I think both teams still have a chance to win regardless of who will be the favourite. Even though Napoli dropped quite a lot of points of late but they are still very strong as a team. So Juventus need to be careful with Napoli if they are to aim for victory.

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