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The most interesting thing is going to be seeing Bologna in the Champions League next season. I assume they wouldn't mess up on the last three weeks.  Grin

I have checked their Champions League history. I have seen they were a part of this tournament in 1960s the last time. The name of the tournament wasn't even "Champions League" those times.  Tongue  Therefore it is going to be a really meaningful success for Bologna. But can they do well in the Champions League? Their current squad doesn't look very promising to progress more. However the tournament format is also going to change so let's see what they can do.

If Bologna do not extend Thiago Motta's contract or perhaps, Thiago Motta will accept the offer of another team then I believe Thiago Motta's departure will have a bad impact on Bologna next season. Because after all, Thiago Motta's own contract expires at the end of this season and also, based on rumors circulating at least Thiago Motta is also targeted by other teams such as Juventus to replace Allegri's coaching chair. If that happens, then I'm sure next season Bologna will experience not good results because at least, Bologna's success has good performance and results this season because of Thiago Motta's success as a successful head coach for Bologna this season in Serie A.
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Atalanta vs Roma could be the big match this week, where both teams are trying to get tickets to the Champions League, but the chance of this match ending in a draw is wide open, or Atalanta winning three points because the home match will give Atalanta an advantage.
Atalanta seems to have had better results in the last few matches than Roma, but we can see that Atalanta is facing a relatively weak team so they can win three times in a row, but Roma failed to beat Atalanta in the first meeting this season so the match at Atalanta's home ground will be even more difficult for Roma to defeat its opponent.
Currently Atalanta and Roma have the same points in Serie A, but due to the greater goal difference, Atalanta is currently ranked higher than Roma. So this match will be very decisive for both teams, to have a greater chance of getting tickets to compete in the UCL. At Atalanta and Roma's first meeting this season, it was true that the match ended in a draw (1-1), at that time Roma was the host. However, at this meeting, Atalanta will be the host, which will certainly be more profitable for Atalanta. So the Roma players will definitely have to fight extra hard in this match, because if they lose or draw in this match, Roma's path to getting a ticket to the UCL will definitely be even more difficult.

However, if you look at the performance of Roma, currently coached by De Rossi, I think Roma will provide different resistance to Atalanta. The reason is, after De Rossi coached Roma, the performance of his players improved very rapidly. Apart from that, when Roma played against Atalanta in the previous meeting, as far as I remember, Roma was still under the guidance of Mourinho. And under Mourinho, Roma's performance was not good so it was natural that they were held to a draw by Atalanta. However, Roma's performance is now much better than at that time, so the possibility of Roma winning the match against Atalanta is also very big in this match.

In my opinion, the match is probably going to end in a draw. Because I can assume Atalanta is going to play very defensively in that match. Because if they get one point, it is going to be a good result for them. But Roma is definitely going to go for a win. Predicting this match is going to be very complicated. But I have to say the performance that the coach of Roma was able to produce earlier, it is not happening right now. They are not as consistent or performing as well as they were when the coach was just appointed. I think there is a high chance for Roma to not win the match. And if they for some reason, lose the match, which is definitely possible, they might not end up participating in the Europa League. De Rossi is good but probably he was not ready to be the coach of Roma.
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The most interesting thing is going to be seeing Bologna in the Champions League next season. I assume they wouldn't mess up on the last three weeks.  Grin

I have checked their Champions League history. I have seen they were a part of this tournament in 1960s the last time. The name of the tournament wasn't even "Champions League" those times.  Tongue  Therefore it is going to be a really meaningful success for Bologna. But can they do well in the Champions League? Their current squad doesn't look very promising to progress more. However the tournament format is also going to change so let's see what they can do.
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I think with the last two draws they have wasted the chance to qualify for the Champons League. Their last chance is definitely to win 3/3 remaining games, but look at Atalanta and how they have a game in hand. It is a very complicated situation for them. It probably comes down to the game against Atalanta and I doubt that Atalanta will give that one away.

Who knows how it will be looking two weeks from now, but the craziest scenario would be that Juventus loses games and then Bologna plays against them on May 19th. That would be a tough end of the season for all the teams fighting for something.
Roma which was doing good job in last few weeks suddenly having decline in performance with their two draws are surely going to hurt their cause for the qualification of the Champions League which could be big setback for them because we have good improvement in Atlanta performance even they are involved in three competitions but still things are going favourable for them which is going to have big impact on their end of this season.

We have few interesting matches and things which can happen in league table at the end even most chances we will stay with these teams for the top spots with just Roma and Atlanta are having fight for the top fifth spot with most chances Atlanta going to have better chance but still we can expect good, interesting matches which will bring good changes in league table.

Well it would be a setback for any of the teams fighting for the Champions League qualification in the last few weeks. Napoli and Lazio would have liked to play in the Champions League obviously, but there is now quite a good number of teams that have the potential to qualify for it. Whether Bologna can repeat such a season remains to be seen, but then there are still around 8 teams that are good enough to make the qualification a fair goal for next season.

I believe that Inter's dominance won't be broken anytime soon. Maybe Juventus Turin can make a comeback, but they don't play consistently enough. One problem will be that they can't finance huge transfers I think, but they don't have a top team at the moment. I am not a fan of Vlahovic. If they want to compete with the best, Vlahovic isn't good enough in my opinion, but probably the only option they can stem financially.
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Roma has two options to get into the Champions League: 1.) Win the Europa League 2.) Take 5th place in Serie A. While both options look unlikely, the second option is much more realistic. Therefore, I agree that Roma needs to choose one thing and the best choice is to save maximum energy for the game with Atalanta.
By the way, an interesting option is if Atalanta wins the Europa League and Roma takes 5th place in Serie A, then there will be 6 Italian teams in the Champions League next season.
It's quite difficult for Roma indeed, of these two options I don't think there is a possible option for Roma. To be able to turn things around against Leverkusen and qualify for the final I think is impossible, whereas to compete for 5th place with Atalanta, you don't just have to beat Atalanta in match this weekend but Roma also have to wait for Talanta to make a few mistakes in the next 2 remaining matches for Roma to take over 5th position, that is really a very burdensome thing.

This weekend's match against Atalanta will also not be easy for Roma because Atalanta, who is playing at home, has much greater motivation and also the performance/quality of the Atalanta team has recently improved drastically.
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If Roma lose, I think they will definitely get it and there is no room for Roma to be able to reverse the aggregate against Leverkusen. It is very difficult to face a very strong team in all competitions and therefore it would be best if it could not be forced then Roma should think about being able to shift Atalana's position in the standings.

That is much more important and let Atalanta focus on both and Roma can take the opportunity to win when Atalanta's players are tired after returning from the European league. I'm curious considering the situation is so similar that we will be given an unexpected surprise to get a place in the champions league at the end of the season.

Roma has two options to get into the Champions League: 1.) Win the Europa League 2.) Take 5th place in Serie A. While both options look unlikely, the second option is much more realistic. Therefore, I agree that Roma needs to choose one thing and the best choice is to save maximum energy for the game with Atalanta.
By the way, an interesting option is if Atalanta wins the Europa League and Roma takes 5th place in Serie A, then there will be 6 Italian teams in the Champions League next season.
The 2 options they currently have are both not easy options, because in the European League they have to catch up 2 goals down first before they can turn things around, and chasing 2 goals from a strong club like Leverkusen is not an easy thing for them to do. I think they will also lose again in this match in the second leg and I see only a small chance that they have now.

Meanwhile in Serie A, they have the same points as Atalanta, but Atalanta has 1 match more than them. If Atalanta can secure all the matches they have then they will be determined to finish in 5th position in the standings. As Roma still depends on the results of other clubs' matches to enable them to finish in a position that will take them to the Champions League. I think they really need luck so they can be in the Champions League next season. Because the scenario they currently have is very difficult to realize.
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I do not think Roma actually has any chance to finish in a position where they will be able to compete in the Champions League competition in the next season. But it is possible for them to finish in the fifth position and compete in the Europa League. Roma does have a match against Atalanta and if they lose that match, they will probably not be able to finish in the fifth position as well. It is looking tough for them. But I believe they should be able to finish in the fifth position. The problem is they have to think about the Europa League competition as well. So that might be a problem for them, to think about both competitions at the same time.

That will be a challenge for De Rossi but it seems that As Roma will play as hard as possible to win in the UEL or in the domestic league against Atalanta because winning those two matches is enough to ensure they are not a weak team, but in my opinion Roma should be more focused on finishing in 5th position and beating Atalanta compared to having to try to beat Leverkusen which of course will drain their energy, because I think As Roma at least has a chance to win against Atalanta.

It's difficult to be a team that has to catch up on two important matches, but De Rossi ensures that As Roma will play as hard as possible in these two matches to be able to prove that they are a strong team, but even though As Roma will fail in the UEL and also not finish in fifth position, De Rossi must continue to coach As Roma next season because it takes time for De Rossi to be able to make As Roma perform even better next season, especially so far since De Rossi has been in charge of As Roma, he has performed with good results compared to when with Mourinho. As Roma can definitely compete next season better than this season.
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Roma can still qualify for any of the European competitions including the Champions League but it will depend on the ability of the club to win all its games and other top teams losing their games. They will keep gunning for a European ticket until the end of the season. If they they fail, however, next season will be a great opportunity for De Rossi to prove his worth.
It only takes 4 points if As Roma wants to enter the Champions League and fully hopes that Bologna will lose so that Roma can catch up on points. If you look at As Roma's game, how do they want to enter the Champions League when in every match they get a draw in their last 2 matches?  , plus having to focus on Leverkusen's match in the Europa Cup is very confusing for As Roma in a situation like this.

It could be that Roma will focus more on the domestic league rather than having to chase a 0-2 aggregate against Leverkusen in the Europa League considering that the opportunity to beat Leverkusen at home looks more difficult, because the opportunity to play in the Champions League next season is more open.
However, the condition is that Roma must be able to wipe out the remaining 3 matches with a win, and most importantly this week they must be able to beat Atalanta at home and hope that Bologna loses to Napoli and Juventus.
It is a very tough mission for Roma to reach 4th place in the final standings, because it must be determined by themselves and other teams to be able to achieve it.
However, if this cannot be achieved at the end of the season and only plays in the Europa League next season, then this will be an extraordinary achievement for coach De Rossi considering that De Rossi became Roma coach starting mid-season.
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If Roma lose, I think they will definitely get it and there is no room for Roma to be able to reverse the aggregate against Leverkusen. It is very difficult to face a very strong team in all competitions and therefore it would be best if it could not be forced then Roma should think about being able to shift Atalana's position in the standings.

That is much more important and let Atalanta focus on both and Roma can take the opportunity to win when Atalanta's players are tired after returning from the European league. I'm curious considering the situation is so similar that we will be given an unexpected surprise to get a place in the champions league at the end of the season.

Roma has two options to get into the Champions League: 1.) Win the Europa League 2.) Take 5th place in Serie A. While both options look unlikely, the second option is much more realistic. Therefore, I agree that Roma needs to choose one thing and the best choice is to save maximum energy for the game with Atalanta.
By the way, an interesting option is if Atalanta wins the Europa League and Roma takes 5th place in Serie A, then there will be 6 Italian teams in the Champions League next season.
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I think with the last two draws they have wasted the chance to qualify for the Champons League. Their last chance is definitely to win 3/3 remaining games, but look at Atalanta and how they have a game in hand. It is a very complicated situation for them. It probably comes down to the game against Atalanta and I doubt that Atalanta will give that one away.

Who knows how it will be looking two weeks from now, but the craziest scenario would be that Juventus loses games and then Bologna plays against them on May 19th. That would be a tough end of the season for all the teams fighting for something.
Roma which was doing good job in last few weeks suddenly having decline in performance with their two draws are surely going to hurt their cause for the qualification of the Champions League which could be big setback for them because we have good improvement in Atlanta performance even they are involved in three competitions but still things are going favourable for them which is going to have big impact on their end of this season.

We have few interesting matches and things which can happen in league table at the end even most chances we will stay with these teams for the top spots with just Roma and Atlanta are having fight for the top fifth spot with most chances Atlanta going to have better chance but still we can expect good, interesting matches which will bring good changes in league table.

I do not think Roma actually has any chance to finish in a position where they will be able to compete in the Champions League competition in the next season. But it is possible for them to finish in the fifth position and compete in the Europa League. Roma does have a match against Atalanta and if they lose that match, they will probably not be able to finish in the fifth position as well. It is looking tough for them. But I believe they should be able to finish in the fifth position. The problem is they have to think about the Europa League competition as well. So that might be a problem for them, to think about both competitions at the same time.
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This week there will be two decisive matches for Roma, one of which must complete the second leg against Leverkusen in the European league and after that they still have to face Atalanta in the fight for a place in next season's champions league. It is clear that Roma's situation is so pressing with this tough schedule that they have to play totally without reducing anything.

De Rossi has done well for the rest of the season after replacing Mourinho and could even put Roma in contention for European competition. If it weren't for De Rossi, Roma would definitely have difficulty being in their current position. I still believe De Rossi will open a wide path for a more competitive journey for Roma in the future.
I am pretty sure that they are going to lose the Leverkusen game anyway, they should not really care about that game all that much because they are not going to go there at all. I am not sure about the champions league though? Is it because the cup game or something?

I think they are fighting for the europa league and not champions leage, no? If that is the case then they should definitely play their hearts out because Atalanta will definitely do that, while Atalanta also has their own game to play against Marseille as well so both teams are in semi-similar situations if you ask me and mean a lot to win that much money from UCL next season. There is like 30 million euros or so to be made from being in the group stages of UCL so both teams would benefit highly from that kind of money.
If Roma lose, I think they will definitely get it and there is no room for Roma to be able to reverse the aggregate against Leverkusen. It is very difficult to face a very strong team in all competitions and therefore it would be best if it could not be forced then Roma should think about being able to shift Atalana's position in the standings.

That is much more important and let Atalanta focus on both and Roma can take the opportunity to win when Atalanta's players are tired after returning from the European league. I'm curious considering the situation is so similar that we will be given an unexpected surprise to get a place in the champions league at the end of the season.
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I am really sad to see that this De Rossi period of Roma and their improvement took so little and they suddenly started to be not that great again. I mean they played so well when he first came in, went up in positions, and now looking at it they are back to sixth place.

A team that could have been fourth and do so well, ended up being sixth because of the last few weeks and that is not really that great for them, I hope that they get better and they do not end up with losing much more points. Very few games left, I do not know how they could recover from this and I am fearing that we are going to end up with something that will take some time. I get that we are going to see them be better when De Rossi gets the transfers he wants, but not sure if they will be top four next season either.

De Rossi started it. He is trying to make Roma perform better than this and he knows if they want to keep racing in the top side of the Serie A or playing in the Champions League they will need to buy more and better players. While the budget for Roma is limited buy it seems De Rossi wants to hire Federico Chiesa.
Federico Chiesa is playing for Juventus but he couldn't show a good performance from himself with Allgeri, that's why maybe he agreed to leave. Juventus wants to extend the contract of Federico Chiesa until 2028 but some other teams like Roma are linked to this player.



bad situation for Juventus, if in addition to losing their place *they risk) in the Champions League they also start to lose young champions, then they will enter a self-destructive spiral
Which will complicate the collections, therefore less and less money, fewer and fewer quality players and therefore an infinite descent. I hope they wake up
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Roma can still qualify for any of the European competitions including the Champions League but it will depend on the ability of the club to win all its games and other top teams losing their games. They will keep gunning for a European ticket until the end of the season. If they they fail, however, next season will be a great opportunity for De Rossi to prove his worth.
It only takes 4 points if As Roma wants to enter the Champions League and fully hopes that Bologna will lose so that Roma can catch up on points. If you look at As Roma's game, how do they want to enter the Champions League when in every match they get a draw in their last 2 matches?  , plus having to focus on Leverkusen's match in the Europa Cup is very confusing for As Roma in a situation like this.
Rome's current situation has actually become very unfavorable. Because in Serie A they were also moved to 6th place by Atalanta. And in the Europa League, Roma also lost in the first leg to Leverkusen with a score of 0-2. So currently the situation has become quite confusing for Rome itself. But hopes for Roma in the Europa League are also quite slim because they will find it difficult to beat Leverkusen who are superior on aggregate. And maybe in Serie A Roma also has to continue to win the remaining matches if they want to return to 5th place. And actually I heard that tickets to the UCL will increase in the coming season. So if you finish in 5th place, you might get the chance to get a ticket to UCL. And even if you don't get it, you will definitely get a European League ticket. For now Roma just have to focus on today's match in the European league against Leverkusen.
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It is impossible as you said but luck does happen sometimes in football just as we have seen how the highly rated PSG got eliminated yesterday in the UEFA Champions League by an underrated semifinalist Dortmund. Although Roma’s case is different since Leverkusen has already won the first leg match away from home, and winning Roma at home will be an easy task for them.
De Rossi is trying as Roma’s head coach, I think if he is given more time, he can do better because he have good tactics that can lead Roma to the limelight. I think the team need to be patient and played but in another Europa League next season since getting to the fourth position will be difficult for them.
I know that the two teams has a good performance to reach this stage to face each other to know the strongest team in this season, which the sign has shown in the face of Bayer Leverkusen, because they used their opportunity well in the first leg to achieved victory. Roma will going to Improve their performance in this match to use their home advantage to challenge their opponent not to score more than one goal from the match, which they are capable to make it happen to Bayer Leverkusen. Based on what people have experienced from the Roma manager in this season, show that he will perform more than this season next season if their president can give him the second chance next season to help the team to achieve Europa league title next season.
Situation is very interesting as things are heading for the end of this season we are having drastically changes in performance of few teams with Atlanta is doing good job, and they are having good wins from their last few games which bring them in limelight for the automatic qualification for the Champions League and AS Roma is having decline in performance with now their game against Atlanta is going to be important for their stay into top five.

De Rossi doing good job and deserve another chance at this level with their qualification for the Champions League can give boost to his chances for staying as coach here for one more season Atlanta is also doing good job and having good chance of going into final of the Europa League, and they are already in Copa Italia final which is going to play against Juventus, but their game against Roma is having good limelight as both needs to win and stay at the fifth spot.
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The fun fact about Jose Mourinho is we know he got the knowledge and he could make a change in Roma, he was maybe the best coach in the world after the performance we saw from him when he was working at Inter Milan or Porto. But we should accept that Mourinho didn't have a good performance in Roma even after the chance they gave him. While the young coach of Roma, De Rossi, who has not experienced enough and is not a famous coach like Mourinho had a perfect performance so far and he is about to make Roma get the Champions League ticket.
Conclusion of this talk is every player and coach have good and bad day José Mourinho was one of the best coach while he was winning trophies and giving his best but currently his strategy is not working which is not allowing him for having big wins like we have with many other coaches in different leagues things are never stay at the same level his performance was not good at Roma which is having no doubt and De Rossi done good job with now two important games are going to give all about can they go for the Champions League, or we are having them again into Europa League which is also not bad but for the better results and having good end of the season they need few quality players which give them good performance and better results which are more important for them and their good future.

I think they were more worried about him being in the third season of his coaching and the track record of him coaching a team in the third season has not been good. Yes of course the results were also not looking very good. So it did make sense that they decided to get a new coach.

But I was very vocal about getting the coach that they have right now. I never thought he was going to be a big improvement. And that’s what I think we can see now. After a coach comes to a club, initially he is able to find good results. Because there is a different level of motivation in the players. But after that "honeymoon phase" is over, it is hard to keep the players as motivated as they were. And that is exactly what is happening in my opinion. But everyone keeps saying that if a coach is given enough time, he is almost always going to bring in better results. Let’s see if that is true or not.
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I know that the two teams has a good performance to reach this stage to face each other to know the strongest team in this season, which the sign has shown in the face of Bayer Leverkusen, because they used their opportunity well in the first leg to achieved victory. Roma will going to Improve their performance in this match to use their home advantage to challenge their opponent not to score more than one goal from the match, which they are capable to make it happen to Bayer Leverkusen. Based on what people have experienced from the Roma manager in this season, show that he will perform more than this season next season if their president can give him the second chance next season to help the team to achieve Europa league title next season.
The ability of Roma stopping Leverkusen from scoring more goals actually isn't much of a problem but I think the main issues lay in their ability to be able to make it to the finals by possibly knocking Leverkusen out which by every analysis possible it's not looking like something that could be achieved except if there be some unforseen circumstances of which even in the midst of that Leverkusen still have a mechanism to staying afloat.

Leverkusen is in such a solid form with goal advantages ahead of Roma such that they may actually not even get to really struggle to qualify for the finals even if they get to loose like probably in the fact thst Roma utilizes their home advantage, if we even look at Roma's home performance this season both in their domestic league and the Europa, they haven't been really brilliant but then they have been able to maintain some relative balance in that their losses at home isn't above their home victory and draw but then such inconsistency at home isn't assuring enough to get Leverkusen to halt their journey to the finals of the Europa.

Roma's home advantage will just be to helping them concede lesser goals meanwhile they may be lucky to get a goal aswell but then Leverkusen has got a whole lot to protect to allowing the second leg be a mess so I'm still believing strongly Leverkusen has got a better chance than Roma does even with the fact that Roma will definitely try their best but it wouldn't be enough to stopping Leverkusen or even causing them their records so far.
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Roma won't be able to hire a better coach, extending contract for De Rossi should be an easy decision. Any coach will be a gamble for Roma, they should just stick on De Rossi who have shown his capability to improve their performances with the available squad. The board just needs to back up De Rossi with required signings for next season.
Signing a contract with a player or a coach, it is a gamble, only smaller or bigger in risk. Every player and coach can succeed in one club but can fail in another club, no guarantee for success.

De Rossi is a best coach for Roma in near future because he loves the club and he shown it through his player career. This means De Rossi will not ask too much from Roma like salary for him, put pressure on the club finance just to satisfy his ambitious players for transfers. With De Rossi, Roma will have more comfortable coach and relationship to work with each other for a long time.

A biggest challenge to end their work relationship is if Roma have very bad performances that exceed acceptable threshold of Roma board members.
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Roma and the fans really understand that De Rossi will fail this season, however, De Rossi can be said to be successful even though he will only end up failing in the European league and failing to get a ticket to the next European music league.
De Rossi joined Roma at the wrong time and on the one hand he managed the existing players without making any changes and this was a very good result or a sign that De Rossi really deserved to be Roma coach.
but it all depends on how the Roma owner will give permission to De Rossi to make a transfer to get new players and if you remember how Roma finances are currently really limited, the Roma owner must provide the right policy and if you dare to take the risk of bringing in new players, give them freedom to De Rossi, I think there will be quite a good improvement in the next season.

btw there is still hope for Roma to try to get a top 5 position if after the European league matches are finished and Atalanta manages to qualify for the final, Roma will definitely have the opportunity to take advantage of this situation because Atalanta will definitely try to aim for the European league title.
Still has second leg match for Europe League semifinal face Leverkusen and still not fail yet behind potential for Roma make comeback and win over three goals, but I disagree with Roma have failure in this season behind first time arriving Daniele De Rossi get team outside from top six standings position and currently near future reach champion league spot behind four points left from Bologna.
Become AS Roma manager and limitation with financial condition I don't think failed with Daniele De Rossi and has chance make Roma qualify to final of Europe League and finish as Champion League spot place in this season.

Roma have to beat Atalanta next match because both team get the same points currently and fight for champion league spot place, I think Roma indeed must winning on three matches left should waiting bad result from Bologna to reach one ticket for participating in champion league next season.
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The fun fact about Jose Mourinho is we know he got the knowledge and he could make a change in Roma, he was maybe the best coach in the world after the performance we saw from him when he was working at Inter Milan or Porto. But we should accept that Mourinho didn't have a good performance in Roma even after the chance they gave him. While the young coach of Roma, De Rossi, who has not experienced enough and is not a famous coach like Mourinho had a perfect performance so far and he is about to make Roma get the Champions League ticket.
Conclusion of this talk is every player and coach have good and bad day José Mourinho was one of the best coach while he was winning trophies and giving his best but currently his strategy is not working which is not allowing him for having big wins like we have with many other coaches in different leagues things are never stay at the same level his performance was not good at Roma which is having no doubt and De Rossi done good job with now two important games are going to give all about can they go for the Champions League, or we are having them again into Europa League which is also not bad but for the better results and having good end of the season they need few quality players which give them good performance and better results which are more important for them and their good future.
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