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The narrow win over Bologna as an away match was an important victory for the Nerazzurri to get further away from Juventus and AC Milan.
The importance of winning against Bologna by just 1 goal is because Thiago Motta's team had previously never lost in four consecutive matches.
That means it will be closer to the Scudetto title for Inter Milan? They refuse to lose and win and continue to appear more consistent than the previous season, then their strategy will focus on the match against Atletico Madrid which only needs a draw let alone a win it will mean more to them.

Juventus and AC Milan will not be able to catch up with Inter Milan's points now, the Serie A title is already in the hands of Inter Milan at this time just waiting for a few matches to win and I think Inter Milan will be able to do that than other teams.

Inter Milan statistics lost, possession lost but Inzhagi's troops were able to win that's what is called the slick appearance they showed.
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Napoli is not favorite team this season, in fact they only ended with a draw against Torino yesterday, Bologna's game is much better than Napoli's, well this is all because they haven't found a good coach to restore their performance.  napoli's opponents in the next match are barcelona (champions league), inter and atalanta, i strongly predict that napoli will win in their next match, the figure of a coach is very important to improve napoli's performance.
Napoli didn't do well in their last game against Torino.  They have tough games coming up against Barcelona, Inter, and Atalanta, but Napoli has good players who can do well and maybe win. Having a good coach is good for a team to do well. The all of the team players and the team as a whole deserve credit for their hard work and skills. So let's see what will happen in future.
Napoli should not be written off so early. Their performance against Torino was lackluster, but football is unpredictable. Given their recent results, their forthcoming matches against Barcelona and Inter make being pessimistic simple. I think Napoli has the potential and depth to win. They havent played well lately, but they've shown sparks this season. Its fair to question Osimhen and Kvaratskhelia's potential versus productivity. However, I believe they and the team deserve a chance to improve. One great game can change the story.

I dont think they're out of Serie A or the Champions League either. Football is unpredictable, and Napoli has had some crazy results. While their defense and offensive have been questioned, they may often surprise us. Remember that clubs go through ups and downs, and Napoli's drop could be brief. Im interested in seeing how people overcome problems with the appropriate approach and luck. Nobody knows. Surprises may await.
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Firstly I must admit that Inter didn't play well at all. Especially in the second half they weren't able to do anything.  Sad  But their still managing to win a very tough game like this really impressed me.  Smiley  Martinez didn't play in this game. Inzaghi must have wanted to save his energy for the rematch against Atletico Madrid in a couple of days.

However I think it was a decent win however it was not easy against Bologna who are playing well this season. It would be a different story if Inter were having trouble against a weak team, but this time the opponent was a team in the top 4 so it wouldn't be right if it was said that Inter didn't play well. It must have been very difficult for Simone Inzaghi to manage several of his players in this match because he was thinking about a sustainable winning trend, but on the other hand, the deciding round of the Champions League was getting closer.

I think not winning by a big score is not a problem and the most important thing is that all the players are fit ahead of the match against Altetico. Moreover, it is an away match for Inter so it will be even more difficult if you don't prepare everything extra. Apart from that, Inter are still at the top of the standings and will not be touched by any club and are just waiting for the right time to announce they are champions more quickly without having to wait until the end of the season.
Yes, this match, Inter Milan has not yet reached its full strength. I'm well aware of that, too. Maybe they are looking ahead to the game against Atletico Madrid. Inter Milan will and is preparing as best as possible.

It is worth noting that Inter "made waves" in Serie A this season, but every time they encountered Bologna, the electricity "turned off." Previously, in the second leg of Coppa Italia, also at Renato Dall'Ara Stadium, Bologna defeated Inter with the minimum score thanks to Riccardo Orsolini's only goal. Thiago Motta is Simone Inzaghi's bitter enemy? I don't know if this is true. Or is this Simone Inzaghi's strategy for his students to keep their strength. Because anyway, Inter firmly holds the top spot in the Serie A rankings with 75 points after 28 matches and, at the same time, widens the gap with the chasing team, Juventus, to 18 points.
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Lecce vs Verona match between two teams, Verona team won by 1 goal. M. Folorunsho scored 1 goal in 17 minutes after the start of the game. No more goals after half time. Lecce team players played badly for which no goals were scored but hopefully in future matches.  Lecce team will do well. Lecce team won 1 match out of 5 matches and drew 1 match and lost 3 matches.

Lecce doesn't want to improve on there performance, imagine the level of poor effort they put on that match against Verona and even when Verona had the red card they still could not use the opportunity to equalize the goal, however the wining has given Verona a very good advantage because before the match there position was very close to Lecce but now do to the wining they were able to have gone far above Lecce on the table. So if Lecce still continue there poor performance they may likely go back to relegate because there are other teams who are trying every way to bring themselves out of the relegation so if Lecce keep on losing they will never be happy  with the position they will find themselves.

Lecce has reached its peak performance, and I think it will be stuck in the same place until the end of the season. Lecce is always going down, and it cannot give fantastic deliveries to leave from the bottom. It's always suffering losses which are also slowly destroying the mentality from Lecce.
I'm doubtful Lecce can easily overcome this problem. The club needs to get three points in the upcoming fixtures to ensure it does not go to the relegation zone. This is the hardest task in defending its position in serie a.
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Napoli is not favorite team this season, in fact they only ended with a draw against Torino yesterday, Bologna's game is much better than Napoli's, well this is all because they haven't found a good coach to restore their performance.  napoli's opponents in the next match are barcelona (champions league), inter and atalanta, i strongly predict that napoli will win in their next match, the figure of a coach is very important to improve napoli's performance.
Napoli didn't do well in their last game against Torino.  They have tough games coming up against Barcelona, Inter, and Atalanta, but Napoli has good players who can do well and maybe win. Having a good coach is good for a team to do well. The all of the team players and the team as a whole deserve credit for their hard work and skills. So let's see what will happen in future.

Even though Napoli is experiencing improvements with its new coach at the moment but still, getting to the top four will not be easy and remains a difficult task to achieve. So ya, even though Napoli are improving, but that doesn't mean everything will be easy because after all, the competition in the Serie A standings is not easy at all, so it can probably be assumed that Napoli will not be able to finish in the topfour. Eventhough it is true, Napoli still has a relatively close point gap with Atalanta and AS Roma, but yes, at the same time, Atalanta and AS Roma at this moment also have a good performance. So, it will still be difficult for Napoli to finish at least in the top six but indeed, at least Napoli still has a chance to finish in the top six even though it is difficult and not easy at all.
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Lecce vs Verona match between two teams, Verona team won by 1 goal. M. Folorunsho scored 1 goal in 17 minutes after the start of the game. No more goals after half time. Lecce team players played badly for which no goals were scored but hopefully in future matches.  Lecce team will do well. Lecce team won 1 match out of 5 matches and drew 1 match and lost 3 matches.

Lecce doesn't want to improve on there performance, imagine the level of poor effort they put on that match against Verona and even when Verona had the red card they still could not use the opportunity to equalize the goal, however the wining has given Verona a very good advantage because before the match there position was very close to Lecce but now do to the wining they were able to have gone far above Lecce on the table. So if Lecce still continue there poor performance they may likely go back to relegate because there are other teams who are trying every way to bring themselves out of the relegation so if Lecce keep on losing they will never be happy  with the position they will find themselves.
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I thought Juventus could being an decent opponent for Inter Milan for race title but clearly i was wrong because Juventus performance is really not stable recently and the records 1 win and 3 loses from 6 matches make Juventus target to pursuing Inter Milan was very hard even it's almost be impossible for Juventus to taking over first place from Inter Milan and today they will facing Atalanta and indeed Atalanta last match doesn't run well because they had just lost 4-0 from Inter Milan and lost 2-1 from Bologna in Serie A but if we see based on their recent performance i think Atalanta performance is not really bad

About meeting records i think this match is not easy for Juventus because if we see from 5 latest meetings Atalanta can able to gets 4 draws and only lost once from Juventus so these records is proven Atalanta could being an tough opponent for Juventus and for squad update Juventus is not in the favourable condition because they will lost some players just like Dusan Vlahovic who got suspension and Adrien Rabiot and this is not good because these players is Juventus key players especially Dusan Vlahovic without him i highly doubt Juventus can win this match and considering the recent meetings from both teams i think big possibility this match will ended to draw
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However I think it was a decent win however it was not easy against Bologna who are playing well this season. It would be a different story if Inter were having trouble against a weak team, but this time the opponent was a team in the top 4 so it wouldn't be right if it was said that Inter didn't play well. It must have been very difficult for Simone Inzaghi to manage several of his players in this match because he was thinking about a sustainable winning trend, but on the other hand, the deciding round of the Champions League was getting closer.
Inter Milan this season does not have problem with weak teams and even with big teams, they have gotten good results too. By general performances so far in Serie A, we can say Inter Milan dominate Serie A this season. They solve opponent by opponent, big or small club, strong or weak team, Inter Milan does not have big problems to earn points and mostly they earn three points from each match.

Serie A is solved by Inter Milan and they will have to focus only on Champions League to beat Atletico Madrid in round of 16 and get a right to join quarter final round. Simeone Inzaghi is considered as one of best young coaches and most promising one after a coach generation of Ancelotti, Klopp, Guardiola, Mourinho.
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I think in this case we have nothing to do with the club president because we must be aware that the club president is only tasked with making the internal conditions of Napoli run well and that includes the coach and the senior staff there but for matters of player performance and other problems related to players then surely it is the responsibility of Calzona as a coach.
Their momentum in the previous few matches has been very good, especially when they managed to beat Juventus, it's just that some of the conditions that were lacking occurred in the match against Torino.

They played well, it's just that Torino were much better in terms of defense because they played with great focus and indeed that's what made Napoli hassle in the match that happened especially with finishing that was not very good, it made them even more frustrated because the performance did not go as it should.
But indeed there is at least 1 point they got in yesterday's match and that still makes Calzona have not lost points in the matches he did while coaching Napoli.

The weekend's game would have been a bit of a push to the top spot on the Serie A table for Napoli but sadly they weren't able to maximize their chances and advantages possessed which in turn ended the game in a draw against Torino who are currently a team not really fighting for the top spot and have as well been able to secure their safe spot on the league table. A 3 point victory is very much essential for Napoli. Just 10 games left and they've got a task of finishing the season in the fourth placed position on the league standings. They don't have to continue the season at this tempo and performance rate either. Their last games have been fruitful and it's believed that they can still make a difference, just that yesterday's game would have been an added advantage for them.

 They were the host and so they should have garnered up all useful paces in them to cover up the position they are just to be able to get out of it. Let's just watch how the next weeks would turn out for them and hopefully they'll be able to make bigger use of the chances before them to finish the season at a positive spot. Just 10 weeks left to the end of the season and Napoli are trailing below Bologna, yes, they'd want to strive to gain enough points so as to get tickets unto next season's European contests but it'll be a difficult task for them because even if they managed to cover up the points gap now, how can they be so sure that Bologna would sit back and be consistently poor in these last weeks.

 Last season, Napoli were a better side even in season's before last but this season, there's been a big switch to that and now it's seeming like a difficult task. Most less active teams of before have now taken it up on themselves to make long lasting differences this season and they've sure been consistent at it. It'll be difficult to break small teams as they've just developed a hidden confidence and strength to maintain their stiffness and just keep being ahead this season. Napoli can only reduce the track of points gaps between the teams but I'll really be longing that they're able to outstand and come on top the table to ensure the ticket is kept intact.
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Firstly I must admit that Inter didn't play well at all. Especially in the second half they weren't able to do anything.  Sad  But their still managing to win a very tough game like this really impressed me.  Smiley  Martinez didn't play in this game. Inzaghi must have wanted to save his energy for the rematch against Atletico Madrid in a couple of days.

In this game Inter defenders showed an incredible performance. While the midfielders and attackers were having big difficulties the three-player defense line played a big role in preventing a bad result. Because Bologna tried everything they could. Bisseck was definitely the man of the match.
However I think it was a decent win however it was not easy against Bologna who are playing well this season. It would be a different story if Inter were having trouble against a weak team, but this time the opponent was a team in the top 4 so it wouldn't be right if it was said that Inter didn't play well. It must have been very difficult for Simone Inzaghi to manage several of his players in this match because he was thinking about a sustainable winning trend, but on the other hand, the deciding round of the Champions League was getting closer.

I think not winning by a big score is not a problem and the most important thing is that all the players are fit ahead of the match against Altetico. Moreover, it is an away match for Inter so it will be even more difficult if you don't prepare everything extra. Apart from that, Inter are still at the top of the standings and will not be touched by any club and are just waiting for the right time to announce they are champions more quickly without having to wait until the end of the season.
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Lecce vs Verona match between two teams, Verona team won by 1 goal. M. Folorunsho scored 1 goal in 17 minutes after the start of the game. No more goals after half time. Lecce team players played badly for which no goals were scored but hopefully in future matches.  Lecce team will do well. Lecce team won 1 match out of 5 matches and drew 1 match and lost 3 matches.
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Napoli is not favorite team this season, in fact they only ended with a draw against Torino yesterday, Bologna's game is much better than Napoli's, well this is all because they haven't found a good coach to restore their performance.  napoli's opponents in the next match are barcelona (champions league), inter and atalanta, i strongly predict that napoli will win in their next match, the figure of a coach is very important to improve napoli's performance.
Napoli didn't do well in their last game against Torino.  They have tough games coming up against Barcelona, Inter, and Atalanta, but Napoli has good players who can do well and maybe win. Having a good coach is good for a team to do well. The all of the team players and the team as a whole deserve credit for their hard work and skills. So let's see what will happen in future.
There is no need to expect too much from Napoli, they have proven that their quality is not good and they also cannot maintain the consistency of their game, against Torino is clear proof so against a team that has better quality than them there is no good possibility.

For the second leg against Barcelona, I am quite pessimistic about Napoli, Agg is still a draw but the second leg will be played at home to Barcelona and we can also see the quality of the two teams in the last few matches and Napoli is likely to lose badly.

I think the possibility of Napoli getting into the top 4 is over.
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Napoli is not favorite team this season, in fact they only ended with a draw against Torino yesterday, Bologna's game is much better than Napoli's, well this is all because they haven't found a good coach to restore their performance.  napoli's opponents in the next match are barcelona (champions league), inter and atalanta, i strongly predict that napoli will win in their next match, the figure of a coach is very important to improve napoli's performance.
Napoli didn't do well in their last game against Torino.  They have tough games coming up against Barcelona, Inter, and Atalanta, but Napoli has good players who can do well and maybe win. Having a good coach is good for a team to do well. The all of the team players and the team as a whole deserve credit for their hard work and skills. So let's see what will happen in future.
Calzona has got bad results in his second game. It's a very disappointing result for Napoli to get a draw against a weaker club compared to Napoli itself. The chance to keep up with the clubs that placed above it is pretty small though. Im sure napoli will get zero points in the upcoming games of serie a.
Im also doubt whether napoli can pass it to beat barcelona in the upcoming game. It's impossible for napoli to get points from intermilan and roma. I even consider Roma is far superior compared to the napoli, which means Napoli is likely to lose against Roma soon.
Who are napoli players doing well this season? I see all of them performing so awfully this season. It starts with a wasteful attacking line combined with a poor defensive line. It was a good combination in calling it a bad club.

Napoli is not the same as it used to be, and stop being delusional by calling it a good club. The fact said the opposite thing about Napoli, and it also proved how Napoli needs to put more effort into rebuilding the trust of the fans to see it winning the game again soon.
Osimhen and Kvarat are flops this season. They rarely score for the club, which has caused Napoli to lose its ability to score as many goals as possible compared to last season. There is no doubt that Napoli created fewer goals compared to the last season.
The club must be able to perform even better than before but napoli's chance is getting even less since it was missing full points in the previous games. The performance of club never enhanced.



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Napoli 1 - 1 Torino

An unpleasant result before a trip to Barcelona. In the sense that, judging by the statistics, Napoli was closer to victory, but it all ended in a draw:

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In Serie A, everything is already lost and it was probably not worth wasting energy on this game, but for the sake of own confidence, 3 points would be a well-deserved result today. I hope Napoli has exhausted its limit of unluck and in the game with Barcelona random at least will not be against them.
1-1 draw isn't really a bad result in my opinion, considering the fact that they got a Champions League game to play next week, at least they got a point, which is much better than losing the game, I kind of think their performance was really affected due to the fact that they got a bigger match ahead to face, and those players played in such a way that they won't sustain any injuries that could spoil their chances of winning their Champions League game come next week.
Yes, it is natural that Napoli is more focused on the match they will face against Barcelona in the Champions League. The reason is that this season, only in the Champions League does Napoli still have hope of winning the trophy. Because, in the domestic league, I think Napoli's hopes of winning a trophy this season are firmly closed. The reason is that Napoli has a very large point difference with the top of the Serie A standings (Inter Milan). However, this season, if Napoli wants to be able to compete again in the Champions League next season, Napoli will have to struggle a little to get into the top 4 of Serie A. Therefore, Napoli must arrange its players in such a way, so that they can play well in the domestic league and Champions League. Even though it will certainly be a little difficult, I think it is a very good thing to do for the future of Napoli.

Because if Napoli focuses its focus only on the Champions League, but for example matches in the domestic league are considered not very important, in my opinion this is a little inappropriate. The point is that Napoli must have a backup plan and a long-term plan. Because if it's not like that, it's possible that next season Napoli won't be able to take part in the Champions League.
Apart from that, Napoli's match is against Barcelona
which will be scheduled 3 days from now. Maybe it will be very competitive. Have you decided which club you will bet on? I personally think I would bet on Napoli. The reason is, Barcelona's current performance doesn't seem to be in good condition. So I decided to bet on Napoli.
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Napoli is not favorite team this season, in fact they only ended with a draw against Torino yesterday, Bologna's game is much better than Napoli's, well this is all because they haven't found a good coach to restore their performance.  napoli's opponents in the next match are barcelona (champions league), inter and atalanta, i strongly predict that napoli will win in their next match, the figure of a coach is very important to improve napoli's performance.
Napoli didn't do well in their last game against Torino.  They have tough games coming up against Barcelona, Inter, and Atalanta, but Napoli has good players who can do well and maybe win. Having a good coach is good for a team to do well. The all of the team players and the team as a whole deserve credit for their hard work and skills. So let's see what will happen in future.
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The narrow win over Bologna as an away match was an important victory for the Nerazzurri to get further away from Juventus and AC Milan.
The importance of winning against Bologna by just 1 goal is because Thiago Motta's team had previously never lost in four consecutive matches.
Bologna lost to Inter Milan and it gives AS Roma a chance to reduce difference with Bologna to only one point. However Roma will have a tough match today against Fiorentina and they will be hosted by Fiorentina. It will be a difficult match and challenging task for Roma to beat Fiorentina but with their latest performances in Serie A and a latest big win against Brighton in Europa League, Roma will begin this match in Florence with high ambition and confidence.

Roma will not easily get three points from Fiorentina but I believe by some ways, eventually Roma will go home with three points and move closer to Bologna.
In the 11 matches that De Rossi has managed, Roma have only suffered one defeat, namely against Inter, a defeat which I think is understandable because Inzaghi fleet is much stronger than them. In the other 10 matches, Roma was unbeaten, Monza and Brighton were beaten by 4 goals, Roma front line is now looking sharp and De Rossi has succeeded in bringing out the best potential from Lukaku and Dybala.

Regarding the away match against Fiorentina, I predict Roma will succeed in stealing 3 points again and continue their positive trend. De Rossi certainly doesn't want to waste the opportunity to break into the top four of the standings, Bologna defeat to Inter gives them the opportunity to cut the difference to 1 point.

The course of the match will certainly not be easy for Roma, because Fiorentina also has the ambition to finish in the Europa League zone. If you look at the statistics, Roma deserves to be the favorite even though they act as the visiting team. This doesn't mean underestimating Fiorentina chances, of course it doesn't rule out the possibility that Fiorentina can beat Roma, and it could be that the two of them draw. Although before the match started Roma were favored to win, Fiorentina has the potential to become a stumbling block for De Rossi efforts to penetrate the Champions League zone.
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The narrow win over Bologna as an away match was an important victory for the Nerazzurri to get further away from Juventus and AC Milan.
The importance of winning against Bologna by just 1 goal is because Thiago Motta's team had previously never lost in four consecutive matches.
Bologna lost to Inter Milan and it gives AS Roma a chance to reduce difference with Bologna to only one point. However Roma will have a tough match today against Fiorentina and they will be hosted by Fiorentina. It will be a difficult match and challenging task for Roma to beat Fiorentina but with their latest performances in Serie A and a latest big win against Brighton in Europa League, Roma will begin this match in Florence with high ambition and confidence.

Roma will not easily get three points from Fiorentina but I believe by some ways, eventually Roma will go home with three points and move closer to Bologna.
Bologna defeat was really hoped for Roma so that they could easily shift their position and Bologna worst mistake against Inter was simply failing to hold a draw due to a small error in defense which ended up conceding 1 score and Bologna ended in disappointment this time after getting a series of consecutive wins and in destroy it because of his own carelessness.
Roma chances are very big to catch Bologna points even though they have to play away against Fiorentina and it will be a difficult match but De Rossi must be able to prove that he really provides a positive trend for Roma and getting a narrow win is much better or at least holding a draw to get one point much better.

however, a slightly complicated problem occurs when from the H2H data, Roma can always win and beat Fiorentina when they are at home and Roma always lose when they play away, so today's match will be a little difficult to get a big chance to win and being able to get a draw is like a good achievement for De Rossi, but if he can surprisingly win the match, the new coach will be praised every day.
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I also can't understand why Napoli couldn't win when they hosted Torino at home, even though the previous week Napoli had won when they hosted Juventus. The Europa League zone is still occupied by Roma and Napoli may have to continue to fight harder to get it because Atalanta and Roma are able to win in today's match. The points gap with Napoli will be created again and that is what makes it difficult for Napoli to reach the top five positions in Serie A this season.
That's what football is because we can't predict what will happen to the outcome of a match even when the seeded team is against a mediocre team, as happened in the Napoli and Torino match at that time, when looking at the series of positive results achieved by Napoli in recent weeks, of course many predict if Napoli will win,  Especially if you look at the condition of Torino who have never even won in their last 3 matches, but in fact Napoli must bury their dream of getting 3 points in the match.

Failing to get a win from Torino, of course, makes Napoli at this time will be very difficult to compete with Atlanta and Roma to reach rank 4, especially in the next few days Napoli will face difficult matches by facing big teams in the league such as Intermilan and Atlanta, so the possibility of them dropping points is very large in the match and will certainly make them far behind their current rivals in the hunt top 4 Serie A position, seeing the current difference in points with Bologna who is in 4th position, of course Napoli is required to no longer lose  point again, both when facing InterMilan and Atlanta, if Napoli manages to win these two games, it seems that Napoli chances to return to the Bigfour competition path will be more open on the condition that Roma also get negative results in other matches.
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The problem is that Napoli really need a victory to pursue their target to finish in the top 5 so there is no reason to miss points especially when Napoli play at home that's why they say this is a bad result for Napoli, Napoli are currently in the 7th place by collecting 44 points and they have to pursue Atalanta and AS Roma obviously this is not easy Napoli need a consistent victory to get it. Besides Napoli will face 2 difficult matches in the upcoming game Inter Milan and Atalanta are waiting for them.
Napoli is not favorite team this season, in fact they only ended with a draw against Torino yesterday, Bologna's game is much better than Napoli's, well this is all because they haven't found a good coach to restore their performance.  napoli's opponents in the next match are barcelona (champions league), inter and atalanta, i strongly predict that napoli will win in their next match, the figure of a coach is very important to improve napoli's performance.
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Roma is currently in high confidence after getting a series of positive results in several matches, but the match that will be played at Fiorentina sometimes makes Roma a little difficult.
It is big surprise to see Roma started to perform excellently after sacking Mourinho. They have easier matches than some matches before Mourinho was sacked but it's not reason to deny great success brought by their new head coach Daniele De Rossi.

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However, what is certain is that the Fiorentina vs Roma match will be quite fierce, this is a match between two teams who have high enough motivation to be able to enter the top 4 with high hopes after Bologna experienced defeat this week.
Chance is given to Roma by Bologna with Bologna defeat by Inter Milan and it's good time for Roma to show that they are strong and stable enough to take any given chance by their competitors as their bold step towards top four. Fiorentina is also one of direct competitors of both Roma and Bologna so if Roma can beat this direct competitor, it actually means more than a winning.

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I think Bologna's defeat against Inter Milan is also quite natural because Inter Milan this season is very superior, they have quality above the average of other Serie A teams.
A defeat under Inter Milan can potentially be a trigger of Bologna bad form in coming matches. Losing against a strongest team in Serie A is no shame for Bologna but they must forget this defeat, stay strong and move on. If they actually let this defeat as a bad start of their next matches, they will lose the fourth position to Roma or other clubs.
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