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Topic: It's F'n happening ----- Polk VS. Negreanu HUNL Grudge Match - page 2. (Read 1034 times)

legendary
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So we are 1 or 2 sessions past the half way mark, and it's still Doug up by 644K.

It's definitely been better for Daniel the last few sessions booking wins, with almost 100K over 750 hands the last session out. I was hoping they were going to up the stakes, would have been crazy to see the size the pots could have got to then. I'm guessing if they keep up this pace we see the end of the challenge in the first week of February or something.

legendary
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I'm hearing Dnegs is getting better and better as they rack up more sessions but not enough to claw his way back to even so far. 

Not enough but its definitely better than keep on losing. Dneg was -$957k then crawled back to - $696k. Over 100k positive results in just two session. Far from good and winning this HU match

When do you guys think the match crosses the 12.5k hand mark?  Can't wait for the stakes to go up.

Probably on 28th December because that is the next planned session after today's session. They play an average of 250 hands per hour of session and average of 2 hours + session each time and currently at 11,318 hands. Dneg probably wouldnt turn all the tide at 12,500 hand mark but it would be great if he rack up another 100k positive results in the next two sessions
legendary
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Life, Love and Laughter...
I'm hearing Dnegs is getting better and better as they rack up more sessions but not enough to claw his way back to even so far.  When do you guys think the match crosses the 12.5k hand mark?  Can't wait for the stakes to go up.

Oh...  Doug is at HSP season 8.  I haven't watched it yet, just saw the preview.
legendary
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Here's a breakdown of the match's top 5 hands according to Doug and his thought process.  

Thats fancy of Doug to give away his thought process especially when the game is not over. Well given that he is ahead for half a million, he might want to let Dneg get some of this information

I haven't watched it yet but should be good.  

Thats a 44 minutes video ( around 35 minutes if you cut out the intro and outro ) of only 5 hands. I'd rather watch the actual session for around 35 minutes or so by skipping few of the rounds and only check on the hands with huge pot

And I wish they make highlights of each session.

They probably will once it is all over . GGPoker youtube channel does make those highlights, just type in ggpoker on your search bar





DNeg vs Doug High Stakes Feud Round 14 in around an hour
legendary
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Life, Love and Laughter...
Here's a breakdown of the match's top 5 hands according to Doug and his thought process.  I haven't watched it yet but should be good.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzb_m_DayWg

And I wish they make highlights of each session.  I can't watch a two hour session and not see what they have.  Too boring.
legendary
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Some pretty sick coolers for Daniel. Bright side is now that Doug has a decent lead he's got a tweet floating around if it gets 25K retweets he'll stream Fridays session. He's also being reasonable and not acting like it's superior play alone guaranteeing his win rate.

Pretty sure the next one starts up right away, but it should be interesting to see where they stand at the end of the week.

Right now Doug is up 596K over 5751 hands. Lots of game left to play.

Yeah DNeg played well but the cards are in not in his favour . Doug on the other hand feels so proud in his post match interview to have win that huge amount in one session despite that it was mostly pretty nasty coolers. Thats one thing about poker especially headsUp, you wont make it to the pot unless the card is in your favour. What makes it worst was that lot of those coolers are all in and Dneg loses around 300k just for a session.

Here is Daniel's In Depth "funny" analysis on How To lose $300,000 in 3 hours  Tongue



DNeg vs Doug High Stakes Feud Round 12

DNeg vs Doug High Stakes Feud Round 13
legendary
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So that last session was huge, I tuned in for the last 40 minutes or so on joeys stream and it was the best balance I've seen in the limited viewing. He had Landen Tice giving some decent commentary for hands, what ifs based on play and then breakdown for decent pots at showdown, but mixed in just being goofy and entertaining.

The last 15 minutes were pretty crazy as Doug squeezed an extra 100K out over a few hands. Some pretty sick coolers for Daniel. Bright side is now that Doug has a decent lead he's got a tweet floating around if it gets 25K retweets he'll stream Fridays session. He's also being reasonable and not acting like it's superior play alone guaranteeing his win rate.

Pretty sure the next one starts up right away, but it should be interesting to see where they stand at the end of the week.

Right now Doug is up 596K over 5751 hands. Lots of game left to play.
legendary
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-sniped-

The odds are unfortunately against DNegs. He is just from another era of poker. His specialty is playing life poker with camera present, not multi tables fast path online poker. If the hole challenge was online, DNegs would be crushing him. It's still an awesome challenge and attracts a huge crowd of viewers.

Its live not life btw. Yeah this is pretty much gold mine for alot of people, alot of players / streamers has been given the chance to do some commentary during the game and such. To be honest, I still think that DNeg will try to close the gap once more, he works pretty hard for this with his team and even if he lose in the end, it will be a close one between those two

In the end the losses we see here are not his real losses of course. I am sure he sold a stake of this action and he his definitely getting money from casinos for doing this.

Im not sure about Doug but DNeg is probably sponsored by GGPoker for few percentage of his stake. GGPoker stream this HU match everytime and they also had DNeg give postmatch interview everytime the round is over.
hero member
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^  It's gonna be interesting...  I think a few more buyins lost, Dnegs will request for a double up in stakes.  And you gotta wonder how well Doug plays when he's taken out of his comfort zone.

I dont think that either of them can request this. According to the rules, the loser after 12,500 hands would be able to request another 12,500 hands with the same stakes . If either of them lose, Im pretty sure this will continue until 25,000 hands because neither would want to accept the fact that they got crushed.

DNeg vs Doug High Stakes Feud Round 11

Doug crushed DNeg on round 11. Doug was getting $120k on Round 11 and total of over $264k overall for 5067 hands. Over a quarter million loss for DNeg and they will play round 12 this saturday.


The odds are unfortunately against DNegs. He is just from another era of poker. His specialty is playing life poker with camera present, not multi tables fast path online poker. If the hole challenge was online, DNegs would be crushing him. It's still an awesome challenge and attracts a huge crowd of viewers.

In the end the losses we see here are not his real losses of course. I am sure he sold a stake of this action and he his definitely getting money from casinos for doing this.
legendary
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I dont think that either of them can request this. According to the rules, the loser after 12,500 hands would be able to request another 12,500 hands with the same stakes . If either of them lose, Im pretty sure this will continue until 25,000 hands because neither would want to accept the fact that they got crushed.
The rules also allow for the losing player after 12,500 to double the stakes. It'll be interesting, so long as one of them has a decent lead I imagine it's a no-brainer to up the stakes if the losing player decides to carry on.

I'm tempted to actually go back and watch the last session. Simply from the remarks it sounds like it was a more focused gameplay session than previously. I find it hard to believe but I think Doug tweeted there wasn't a single All-in, which I find crazy given the totals at the end.

doug pulled away a little bit in the last session, up ~$150k now. still close enough that daniel could easily turn it around, but his odds keep getting longer---edging towards 7:1 now.

this sounds fun:
https://twitter.com/TexDolly/status/1330971910243459072
https://twitter.com/DougPolkVids/status/1331282568285618179

with any luck, we'll see a heads up challenge in a couple months between doyle brunson and doug polk. live sounds much better than this online/no hole card format.
This would be super fun to watch. It's probably more along the lines of a format people expected Dnegs to pick. I've already learned about a new game format just from the tweet.

I'll admit I pretty much just check Dougs tweets to see how the session faired cash wise. You really need good banter from whoever is hosting to be able to sit back and watch an entire session. Without showdown even 3-bet pots, with c-bets on the flop and turn, wind up being dull.
legendary
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^  It's gonna be interesting...  I think a few more buyins lost, Dnegs will request for a double up in stakes.  And you gotta wonder how well Doug plays when he's taken out of his comfort zone.

I dont think that either of them can request this. According to the rules, the loser after 12,500 hands would be able to request another 12,500 hands with the same stakes . If either of them lose, Im pretty sure this will continue until 25,000 hands because neither would want to accept the fact that they got crushed.

DNeg vs Doug High Stakes Feud Round 11

Doug crushed DNeg on round 11. Doug was getting $120k on Round 11 and total of over $264k overall for 5067 hands. Over a quarter million loss for DNeg and they will play round 12 this saturday.
legendary
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Life, Love and Laughter...
^  It's gonna be interesting...  I think a few more buyins lost, Dnegs will request for a double up in stakes.  And you gotta wonder how well Doug plays when he's taken out of his comfort zone.
legendary
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doug pulled away a little bit in the last session, up ~$150k now. still close enough that daniel could easily turn it around, but his odds keep getting longer---edging towards 7:1 now.

He could easily turn this around. Back then we was down over a quarter million, everyone thought that it was over but he made a solid comeback. Doug was up around $117k on 10th round and it was a 4+ hours session so I dont think that its bad because this is literally twice as much as they usually play for.

So here it is incase you guys want to watch how the game goes. Daniel tweeted that round 11 and 12 might be happening this week as well . Around 7800 hands left to go before we reach 12,500.

Dneg vs Doug High Stakes Feud Round 8

Dneg vs Doug High Stakes Feud Round 9

Dneg vs Doug High Stakes Feud Round 10
legendary
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doug pulled away a little bit in the last session, up ~$150k now. still close enough that daniel could easily turn it around, but his odds keep getting longer---edging towards 7:1 now.

this sounds fun:
https://twitter.com/TexDolly/status/1330971910243459072
https://twitter.com/DougPolkVids/status/1331282568285618179

with any luck, we'll see a heads up challenge in a couple months between doyle brunson and doug polk. live sounds much better than this online/no hole card format.
legendary
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what a bunch of drama over nothing. it's water under the bridge now, from the look of it:

Well some people obviously love to hype this HU match by tweeting some random drama, Im quite sure that there will be alot more incoming to hype this up

onto the next session then.

Here you go , Dneg vs Doug High Stakes Feud Round 7

People are expecting bloodbath, either Dneg or Doug gets crushed but none really expect an pretty much even game until 2700+ hands

oddly enough, DN's odds keep getting longer---up to 6.35 now on pokershares.

Well according to Doug's tweet, he is up $67k after 2374 hands so that could be one the reason why the odds for Dneg is getting higher. Not to mention that Doug was clearly better than Dneg in this game but somehow Dneg is keeping up with Doug. The reason for Dneg's comeback was because he got lucky few times that Doug were super aggresive by shoving but Dneg won by having better hands . Most of the time Dneg would fold when Doug shove, its too bad that we wont know if Doug was bluffing or not
legendary
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That's actually Doug and his joking/trolly nature, as far as I can tell. It was just all good that Bill had stated Doug was using solvers, but corrected himself.

From the sounds of it they are still going to their judge/arbitrator who someone said might be Phil Galfond, I don't know this for sure but might be why perkins tagged him.

what a bunch of drama over nothing. it's water under the bridge now, from the look of it:



onto the next session then.

People are expecting bloodbath, either Dneg or Doug gets crushed but none really expect an pretty much even game until 2700+ hands

oddly enough, DN's odds keep getting longer---up to 6.35 now on pokershares.
legendary
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That's actually Doug and his joking/trolly nature, as far as I can tell. It was just all good that Bill had stated Doug was using solvers, but corrected himself.

From the sounds of it they are still going to their judge/arbitrator who someone said might be Phil Galfond, I don't know this for sure but might be why perkins tagged him.
legendary
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A bit annoying as this was getting interesting checking in to see how things change from session to session. I've only read tweets from Doug and Bill Perkins, so I don't know to much else. Hoping this gets sorted out sooner rather than latter.

Am I missing something here?

From the latest tweet, it seems it all gets sorted out and it was some kind of misunderstanding. It seems some people are just trying to hype this HU match by firing off some tweets like that as its getting really dull. They played for 4 hours on Round 6 but there was not much action yesterday. People are expecting bloodbath, either Dneg or Doug gets crushed but none really expect an pretty much even game until 2700+ hands

To be honest I dont see this HU match gets cancelled after this kind of silly things. Alot of people are benefitting from this HU match, lots of stream and commentary video about this.

legendary
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AAaaaaand we've hit the first issue.

I'm kinda confused as to how this is an issue but I guess team Daniel has an issue with Doug looking back at the client hand history as part of his off session study to count things like C-bets, folds to C-bets and BTN play.

A bit annoying as this was getting interesting checking in to see how things change from session to session. I've only read tweets from Doug and Bill Perkins, so I don't know to much else. Hoping this gets sorted out sooner rather than latter.

Am I missing something here?
legendary
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I do like catching the highlights of who's in the lead where. I think I caught the 4th session, I watched Brad Owen and Andrew Neeme, sort of not commentate on it lol. They just sat around drinking and shooting the shit with it on in the background.

Basically this HU match is a gold mine for those poker streamers/ youtubers so many of them would try to stream it. They can say anything about it and no one would really care because the hole card is not shown and no one know what exactly is going on unless it goes to hands showdown


Ended with Dneg +$147k this session



Dneg vs Doug High Stakes Feud Round 5

This ended with Dneg hitting positive overall +20k



Here is the next scheduled game

Dneg vs Doug High Stakes Feud Round 6

These all are streamed by ggpoker youtube channel. Doug Polk also stream this on his personal youtube channel if you guys prefer but personally I like Kevin Martin so I always stick with ggpoker's stream
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