Basically the aim of sMerit is to motivate users to post higher quality content with the aim of ranking up, is a good logical measure to combat spam, however there is a direct correlation between the boards with the highest spam rate and the merit these posts have.
As an example, "Economics" is full of spammers asking the same question over and over, although your post there and you have a decent quality I'm pretty sure you have a lesser chance of being merited just because serious people with some background will most likely avoid these boards, and if they don't they will search for very specific topics (at least what I would do).
Maybe merit sources could have different amount of sMerits to grant in different boards, that would keep the posting competitive pretty much everywhere, and that can be based on the amount of threads being created on each board.
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It's quite a bit of work hunting for people to award sMerit, and it seems you don't get much thanks for it. I'm starting to understand why sMerit holders just dump their merit on out of date posts. If there was any indication that there would be a penalty for not allocating sMerit, then I would dump them immediately.
I agree with you on this.
However, I'm enjoying myself. I often LOL at things I read, or find them valuable. Most often I don't want to leave positive trust, and leaving a few merit points to appreciate a good post goes just as far as the trust.
If anything, find some board that has low usage, but is of quality topics, and inform users that you will be looking for quality posts in that board in a more popular board such as Meta. This will encourage more users in said board, and will also award those with quality posts. Win/Win
I tried that with the serious discussion board, but it didn't really work. I suspect this is becuse posts don't increase post count, and sigs aren't allowed.
If anything, find some board that has low usage, but is of quality topics, and inform users that you will be looking for quality posts in that board in a more popular board such as Meta. This will encourage more users in said board, and will also award those with quality posts. Win/Win
I do not think it is appropriate to be a rating tool. I believe this is a tool to improve the quality of forums. It's really up to the members to use it to help direct the flow of writing. So far it seems to be used to "appreciate" ghosts in the past, and to help sig campaign members to "rank" to increase the size of their banners. Because of this abuse, I think the good points can only be given alone, which reduces a bit of the offense. Merits will cause nothing but problems for forum users and admins. We have allready seen members being accused of selling merits to other members. When I used to run forums (not crypto forums) I tried the merit sytem out and the emails from users claiming that this person or that person sold merits got so bad I disabled it in
I'm leaving myself open here to another attack by you-know-who.
This is my account on another forum. Every member has the ability to "like" a post, and he can like every post on the forum if he wants to, but that wouldn't really be productive. If I analyse my likes, it gives me a very good idea of public opinion and approval in the forum. Because a member can only give one like to a post and it is public, it gives me a lot of encouragement to make what I consider to be helpful and informative posts, especially when the like comes from a senior and experienced member.
I've contributed nothing but shitposted tons. I've been shitposting for days now, never got any merit, so I think this system is working well.
I suppose you would need a dislike button to really gauge public approval. What you're proposing with the "likes" is sort of like only being able to long an asset. To get the true prevailing bias you need to be able to short it as well.
I do not think it is appropriate to be a rating tool. I believe this is a tool to improve the quality of forums. It's really up to the members to use it to help direct the flow of writing. So far it seems to be used to "appreciate" ghosts in the past, and to help sig campaign members to "rank" to increase the size of their banners. Because of this abuse, I think the good points can only be given alone, which reduces a bit of the offense. Merits will cause nothing but problems for forum users and admins. We have allready seen members being accused of selling merits to other members. When I used to run forums (not crypto forums) I tried the merit sytem out and the emails from users claiming that this person or that person sold merits got so bad I disabled it in
I'm leaving myself open here to another attack by you-know-who.
This is my account on another forum. Every member has the ability to "like" a post, and he can like every post on the forum if he wants to, but that wouldn't really be productive. If I analyse my likes, it gives me a very good idea of public opinion and approval in the forum. Because a member can only give one like to a post and it is public, it gives me a lot of encouragement to make what I consider to be helpful and informative posts, especially when the like comes from a senior and experienced member.
I do not think it is appropriate to be a rating tool. I believe this is a tool to improve the quality of forums. It's really up to the members to use it to help direct the flow of writing. So far it seems to be used to "appreciate" ghosts in the past, and to help sig campaign members to "rank" to increase the size of their banners. Because of this abuse, I think the good points can only be given alone, which reduces a bit of the offense. Merits will cause nothing but problems for forum users and admins. We have allready seen members being accused of selling merits to other members. When I used to run forums (not crypto forums) I tried the merit sytem out and the emails from users claiming that this person or that person sold merits got so bad I disabled it in
People begging for merits are just asking for not being given any. It's very tempting to throw in a request for merits after you've taken the time to write a good quality, helpful post, but man — don't invoke the power of reverse psychology here. Even if you are hoping for merits deep inside (most here probably do, it's human nature to want a reward), keep it to yourself. Just leave your post as is and let it speak for itself.
Btw, is total sMerit enough to give out merits to good posts?
Merits and sMerits are available all over the place, unfortunately good posts aren't.
Actually, this forum is quite fun. Learn new things, share what your opinion, and earn while you do so. Sometimes, saying 'meaningful' shit in 'politics and society' section is also fun. I hope these will not be included as shitposts in the future. Btw, is total sMerit enough to give out merits to good posts?
Merits and sMerits are available all over the place, unfortunately good posts aren't.
Btw, is total sMerit enough to give out merits to good posts?
Please don't ask me for points. I award them based on my ideas of the benefits posts make to the community.
And, this my idea. Sorry if it is bad idea to share. Okay, so why dont we get Merit with small amount and it will increase for certain periods.
Example :
User ABC in Member Ranks have 10 Merit and need 90 Merit to achieve next-rank. Maybe every 2 weeks, when activity +14, their merit can rise +0.005, so your merit is 10.005 and next 2 weeks your merit will rise to 10.01.
Different case for higher ranks.
If you think, "woah, this is bad idea because people can get easy Merit. So they just keep their account until the Merit is enough". Oh, i must say that your account be ancient if do that way
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Anyway, if you want to discuss this more is okay. Or, maybe you disagree with this, is Okay. Discussion is open. once again, sorry if i have make many mistake here
Example :
User ABC in Member Ranks have 10 Merit and need 90 Merit to achieve next-rank. Maybe every 2 weeks, when activity +14, their merit can rise +0.005, so your merit is 10.005 and next 2 weeks your merit will rise to 10.01.
Different case for higher ranks.
If you think, "woah, this is bad idea because people can get easy Merit. So they just keep their account until the Merit is enough". Oh, i must say that your account be ancient if do that way
.Anyway, if you want to discuss this more is okay. Or, maybe you disagree with this, is Okay. Discussion is open. once again, sorry if i have make many mistake here
It is hard to understand what you mean to say here but let me try. You are suggesting some merits to be added based on activity ? This defeats the purpose. The shit posters will post more garbage at faster rates to become eligible for these.
Here is the simpler one.
Me in Member Rank (Have 70 Activity and 10 Merit), to reach Full Member you need 120 Activity and 100 Merit.
Every two weeks you will get Max 14 Activity, but now it added some bonus. Max 14 Activity and 0.005 Merit (Remember Just Merit, sMerit not included)
So, next stage My Rank is 84 Activity (if get max activity) and 10.005 Merit.
And next 2 weeks is 98 Activity (if get max activity) and 10.01 .
You can calculate how long that i have to reach Full-Member?
100 Merit - 10 Merit = 90 Merit / 0.005 = 18000 times.
In activity position they should Legendary, but stucked on little merit.
For the conclusion this system will not broke the purpose, they just have nano-amount reward on it.
At first I really thought that merits will benefit different groups of users on forum , the newcomers to get relevant answers they are seeking and older members to actually be willing to help instead of just linking people to read the manual and also admins - so they have less job to moderate posts.
Now when I look at different part of forum during the day, occasionally you can see people indirectly asking for merits.
Merits will probably soon become new currency for bounties and that would be very funny because my theory is that one of the reasons they introduced merits was to stop new bounty seekers from flooding the forum.
Now when I look at different part of forum during the day, occasionally you can see people indirectly asking for merits.
Merits will probably soon become new currency for bounties and that would be very funny because my theory is that one of the reasons they introduced merits was to stop new bounty seekers from flooding the forum.
if you have 80 sMerit to give wahaha I need 8 sMerit I keep on posting stuffs with value but none in the forum is looking at it they more lok on the questions about "if you have 1 btc what will you do?"
If no one noticing your posts, how you got those 2 merit points ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1263843You cannot stop people from showing interests in topics they like. If you want to increase your chances of getting merits, you should actually post on those topics to get "noticed".
I rather post important and helpful things than keep posting and spamming the system with repeated post it's the best thing about merit system you need to work for rank but the disadvantage is most valuable post was unheard
just thinking positive If you think your valuable posts are unheard, you can ask for review from senior members here. I made a list of threads giving away merits for quality posts:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-of-threads-giving-away-merit-points-for-quality-posts-2832127
There are six members offering this currently and you can post there to get your posts "heard". All the best.
if you have 80 sMerit to give wahaha I need 8 sMerit I keep on posting stuffs with value but none in the forum is looking at it they more lok on the questions about "if you have 1 btc what will you do?"
If no one noticing your posts, how you got those 2 merit points ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1263843You cannot stop people from showing interests in topics they like. If you want to increase your chances of getting merits, you should actually post on those topics to get "noticed".
I rather post important and helpful things than keep posting and spamming the system with repeated post it's the best thing about merit system you need to work for rank but the disadvantage is most valuable post was unheard
just thinking positive if you have 80 sMerit to give wahaha I need 8 sMerit I keep on posting stuffs with value but none in the forum is looking at it they more lok on the questions about "if you have 1 btc what will you do?"
If no one noticing your posts, how you got those 2 merit points ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=1263843You cannot stop people from showing interests in topics they like. If you want to increase your chances of getting merits, you should actually post on those topics to get "noticed".
if you have 80 sMerit to give wahaha I need 8 sMerit I keep on posting stuffs with value but none in the forum is looking at it they more lok on the questions about "if you have 1 btc what will you do?"
And, this my idea. Sorry if it is bad idea to share. Okay, so why dont we get Merit with small amount and it will increase for certain periods.
Example :
User ABC in Member Ranks have 10 Merit and need 90 Merit to achieve next-rank. Maybe every 2 weeks, when activity +14, their merit can rise +0.005, so your merit is 10.005 and next 2 weeks your merit will rise to 10.01.
Different case for higher ranks.
If you think, "woah, this is bad idea because people can get easy Merit. So they just keep their account until the Merit is enough". Oh, i must say that your account be ancient if do that way.
Anyway, if you want to discuss this more is okay. Or, maybe you disagree with this, is Okay. Discussion is open. once again, sorry if i have make many mistake here
Example :
User ABC in Member Ranks have 10 Merit and need 90 Merit to achieve next-rank. Maybe every 2 weeks, when activity +14, their merit can rise +0.005, so your merit is 10.005 and next 2 weeks your merit will rise to 10.01.
Different case for higher ranks.
If you think, "woah, this is bad idea because people can get easy Merit. So they just keep their account until the Merit is enough". Oh, i must say that your account be ancient if do that way
.Anyway, if you want to discuss this more is okay. Or, maybe you disagree with this, is Okay. Discussion is open. once again, sorry if i have make many mistake here
It is hard to understand what you mean to say here but let me try. You are suggesting some merits to be added based on activity ? This defeats the purpose. The shit posters will post more garbage at faster rates to become eligible for these.
Members who don't spend their sMerit should be punished because this is meant to spend for those people who deserve it. Maybe they just don't care for now but I hope in the future sMerit will be given to everyone specially for lower ranks.
It's quite a bit of work hunting for people to award sMerit, and it seems you don't get much thanks for it. I'm starting to understand why sMerit holders just dump their merit on out of date posts. If there was any indication that there would be a penalty for not allocating sMerit, then I would dump them immediately.
The point is we dont find good posts to give merit or even if we find, may people here are too lazy to give smerit.
Think of a point that 70% of the members here are to earn the BTC and tokens, so they don't care much in giving.
Just focusing achieve and greed themselves. It is correct that people only doing Bounty but never discuss with other people in this forum.
I don't care you will be Smurf forever, because i can have many coins in my Wallet.
Make sense right?
And, this my idea. Sorry if it is bad idea to share. Okay, so why dont we get Merit with small amount and it will increase for certain periods.
Example :
User ABC in Member Ranks have 10 Merit and need 90 Merit to achieve next-rank. Maybe every 2 weeks, when activity +14, their merit can rise +0.005, so your merit is 10.005 and next 2 weeks your merit will rise to 10.01.
Different case for higher ranks.
If you think, "woah, this is bad idea because people can get easy Merit. So they just keep their account until the Merit is enough". Oh, i must say that your account be ancient if do that way
.Anyway, if you want to discuss this more is okay. Or, maybe you disagree with this, is Okay. Discussion is open. once again, sorry if i have make many mistake here
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