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legendary
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If folks here criticize Bitmain, it is almost always because of their own hard (as in documented) experience with inadequate build QA, apparent lack of burn-in, poor (or in some cases nonexistent) customer communication/support, and a demonstrated record of disrespecting other people's intellectual property. If Bitmain, or their apologists, would like to see that change, all that's needed is to get their act together.


I guess I need to add to the documentation then.


19 s9: no problems at all.
15 s7: no problems at all. (Although I do not own these anymore since they are no longer profitable.)
Who knows. I guess I should play the lottery with all this luck. Or maybe I am a mining whisperer. And just will these machines to never to fail. On other thoughts. The more people that bad mouth them and convince other people not to buy. The more miners for me to buy. So please. Forget everything I have said. I am going to go and get more money.

it's not because your 19 machines are running fine that the entire number of units produced represent the EXACT PERFECT behavior as yours.

19 units over the thousands produced. Call it luck if you want. Call yourself a god ... whatever

It's just plain stupid to ignore all the boards failures and tell us we are stupid to ignore the S9 because your SMALL sample size represent the entire universe failure ratio of the S9.

It's just plain irrational.

I own S7 and I was "lucky" enough to have no issues at all BUT I also recognize that other S7 running next to mine got failures.

When I ask friend owning like 20 times the amount of S9 you have and they are telling me they have around 10% failure. Trust me, I trust those numbers.

How hard it is to get that point ?

But no, i'm stupid.

If the problems were as bad as (some) people claim I would have no doubt found some bad boards.


Yeah right 10% failure with an horrible RMA process and a 90 days warranty.

that's what a call a great deal buddy.



If the problems were as bad as (some) people claim I would have no doubt found some bad boards.


I can only LOL at this really really hard, i'm sorry
legendary
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Ah! THERE's that frakking button...
 Kiss
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1005
...It's just plain stupid to ignore all the boards failures and tell us we are stupid to ignore the S9 because your SMALL sample size represent the entire universe failure ratio of the S9.

It's just plain irrational.
...
Makes me think of the phrase "cognitive dissonance" and something about pots and kettles.  Undecided

English isn't my first language.

The point is 19 units is nothing over the thousand units produced and you cannot conclude anything based on that.

That's the point. I'm sure you got it but you have to make re-write it just to make looks stupid.

...It's just plain stupid to ignore all the boards failures and tell us we are stupid to ignore the S9 because your SMALL sample size represent the entire universe failure ratio of the S9.

It's just plain irrational.
...

And your friend having 40 issues out of 400 units makes the units bad as a whole?

Did you ever went through their RMA process or took the time to read about it ?

I'm sure you do... but you needed to ask the question just to make me look foolish again.

If you're fine that, it's your problem but it is unacceptable for me. This is where you and I will never agree.

You do what the fuck you want with your money but don't try to make us like idiots because YOU think it is right for you.


legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1005


If folks here criticize Bitmain, it is almost always because of their own hard (as in documented) experience with inadequate build QA, apparent lack of burn-in, poor (or in some cases nonexistent) customer communication/support, and a demonstrated record of disrespecting other people's intellectual property. If Bitmain, or their apologists, would like to see that change, all that's needed is to get their act together.


I guess I need to add to the documentation then.


19 s9: no problems at all.
15 s7: no problems at all. (Although I do not own these anymore since they are no longer profitable.)
Who knows. I guess I should play the lottery with all this luck. Or maybe I am a mining whisperer. And just will these machines to never to fail. On other thoughts. The more people that bad mouth them and convince other people not to buy. The more miners for me to buy. So please. Forget everything I have said. I am going to go and get more money.

it's not because your 19 machines are running fine that the entire number of units produced represent the EXACT PERFECT behavior as yours.

19 units over the thousands produced. Call it luck if you want. Call yourself a god ... whatever

It's just plain stupid to ignore all the boards failures and tell us we are stupid to ignore the S9 because your SMALL sample size represent the entire universe failure ratio of the S9.

It's just plain irrational.

I own S7 and I was "lucky" enough to have no issues at all BUT I also recognize that other S7 running next to mine got failures.

When I ask friend owning like 20 times the amount of S9 you have and they are telling me they have around 10% failure. Trust me, I trust those numbers.

How hard it is to get that point ?

But no, i'm stupid.
legendary
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https://bpip.org
...When the resale value exceeds the reasonable expectation of what you can possibly mine with the device - you should get rid of it (or not buy it to begin with) - wouldn't you agree? Unless it's a hobby. In which case none of the ROI talk matters anyway.

To coin an '80s phrase, "There ain't no half steppin'!"
When the resale value of S9s exceed what one can get out of them,either: you don't own enough of them; a more efficient rig has been put on the market (and you're going to dump S9s on some broke n00b); or you have no future vision of the value of BTC

If one S9 is not profitable then more of them won't be profitable either, all other things being equal.

A more efficient rig is not always the answer. The difference in price and the cost of kWh might not justify an upgrade.

To gamble on "future vision" you could just buy or short BTC outright. IMHO a profitable mining project should be able to make more BTC than was put into it regardless of BTC future value.

I don't know about you but, my ROI is 4.87 months. Is that good enough?

Good for you. Is that something you've already achieved or hoping to achieve? Currently an S9 can mine ~0.28 BTC per month so to mine its cost of 1.3-1.5 BTC in ~5 months you would need free electricity without difficulty increase.
legendary
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Mine at Jonny's Pool
My Bitmain hardware experience...

S1 - solid as a rock.  Had them overclocked at 200GH each and they hummed along happily with no issues ever.
S2 - delicate.  If you managed to get units undamaged, and if you didn't manage to blow up the crap PSU it came with, and if you had perfect temperatures, and if you didn't look at it the wrong way, and if you didn't mine on p2pool, then it would work.
S3 - flaky. They were finicky as hell, and you had to find the "sweet spot".  Some hashed at advertised speeds, some hashed lower, others higher.  Once you found that sweet sport, they were pretty solid.  Occasional "x" that a cold boot would solve.  Random occasional restarts.  They definitely lasted forever (I have 8 in my basement that still hash when I power them up).
S5 - lousy.  They'd hash solid for a bit, then start to fail.  Random "x" and "-" would appear.  Then the entire board would crap out.  Sometimes a full cold boot would fix things for a bit.  Other times, nothing would work.

I never owned any Bitmain gear after the S5.  Their garbage software hacks combined with their blatantly misleading and false claims on their pools was enough to keep me away.
hero member
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I'm in BTC XTC
Even with ignore on you're STILL annoying.  Go away...
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If folks here criticize Bitmain, it is almost always because of their own hard (as in documented) experience with inadequate build QA, apparent lack of burn-in, poor (or in some cases nonexistent) customer communication/support, and a demonstrated record of disrespecting other people's intellectual property. If Bitmain, or their apologists, would like to see that change, all that's needed is to get their act together.


I guess I need to add to the documentation then.


19 s9: no problems at all.
15 s7: no problems at all. (Although I do not own these anymore since they are no longer profitable.)
Who knows. I guess I should play the lottery with all this luck. Or maybe I am a mining whisperer. And just will these machines to never to fail. On other thoughts. The more people that bad mouth them and convince other people not to buy. The more miners for me to buy. So please. Forget everything I have said. I am going to go and get more money.
legendary
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While it's obvious that I never really looked into the inner workings of a hash. So I will not comment on the statistics. However part of the problem with the conflicts are the people that continue to comment on products they have never owned. It may be time for everyone to self reflect. Who knows. You might find your own pinhole camera views.
I wasn't referring to the statistics, and you know it. But, for your benefit only, I've owned/mined with a total of 42 machines since 2009:

A 2004 HP laptop
Three different GPUs
Spondoolie
S1
S2
S3
S5
S7
A6
A721

So, yeah...I can speak to that. Probably with more akamai (look it up), but that's a subjective assumption...

If folks here criticize Bitmain, it is almost always because of their own hard (as in documented) experience with inadequate build QA, apparent lack of burn-in, poor (or in some cases nonexistent) customer communication/support, and a demonstrated record of disrespecting other people's intellectual property. If Bitmain, or their apologists, would like to see that change, all that's needed is to get their act together.

And...your assumption that reporting you makes me feel good somehow is just indicative of (IMHO...legal stuff there) Axis II status. It was to wake up cgmaxwell and other admins to actually read their inboxes occasionally. Kano knows what I refer to. I gotta go for a while now...need to make a new foil hat 'cuz mine got rained on last night and got all contaminated...  Kiss



EDIT...actually meant to get genie's quote in there as well...NOW I'm done...gotta go buy another roll of Reynolds...glad I bought stock in them when the paranoia began....
legendary
Activity: 1638
Merit: 1005
Con or Kano...if you'd like for me to "take a vacation" from the board, PM me. It's fine. Apparently these guys need the ego boost. I don't.

Dear brother sister,

Please just ignore them.

It is just an example of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism
legendary
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Will try this as well...but I think I'll wait a few days. They're in the middle of a big hardware install in Labrador, and pretty busy.  If all of us at that DC did so, however, it could perhaps make a significant positive difference.

Good move with the node, Kano.
full member
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Just switched mine over to the nya node because ping response times were really good!
legendary
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Just a note to anyone who does have miners up in Labrador - since I never had tried to work out exactly where Labrador is Smiley

Yes indeed point them to nya.kano.is - it will slightly reduce your stales and increase the speed the blocks will be sent out when you find them Smiley

Edit: that's any of:
stratum+tcp://nya.kano.is:3333
stratum+tcp://nya.kano.is:80
stratum+tcp://nya.kano.is:81
stratum+tcp://nya.kano.is:443
stratum+tcp://nya.kano.is:8080

Don't forget to have backup pool settings Smiley
Preferably first to:
stratum+tcp://stratum.kano.is:3333

Alright I will try to have them change !

Thanks for the info.
legendary
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Agreed, but then I wouldn't see their BS to point out that @kano knows more about the pool stats than he/sheit could ever imagine knowing!   Tongue
One can only "point out" based on the things that Kano doesn't delete proving him wrong (unless you actually believe Kano knows more than the Stanford Department of Mathematics).  Undecided
Both of you...if you choose to disparage someone whom you do not really know...at all...and choose to make asinine assumptions based on your own self-perceived/defined moral prowess...then you deserve whatever the Universe hands to you.

I was just going to let it go. The very few times I've been subjected to such ignorant crap over the past 35 years, that has worked. I'm not letting it go this time. You've overstepped big time. You can get away with such stuff at the local pub (actually, you'd be run out of most bars here on a rail if you said something like that), but not in a supposedly civilized venue. Even our biker bar is better heeled than that.

I know Kano and CK will see this. I expect it will be deleted in the interest of smooth ops, and that's OK. But before they do, I'll say that (1) I'm not going to ignore you, because as a retired profiler I want to know what you're up to, and (2) I'm saturating the mods (so the admins will actually take notice) with getting you banned. Nothing you have posted to date has been of much value to the pool, or any of us, unless of course we happen to share your pinhole-camera views.

Con or Kano...if you'd like for me to "take a vacation" from the board, PM me. It's fine. Apparently these guys need the ego boost. I don't.

(slightly edited for syntax)
legendary
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Carl, aka Sonny :)
It looks like some of the rats that jumped ship are starting to come back...it's amazing what a short 220% luck streak can do.
legendary
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One more and we are back on track for this month... Cheesy

That block by afreund was almost big enough to count as two! Grin

He'll need a rubber ring!
legendary
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Carl, aka Sonny :)
One more and we are back on track for this month... Cheesy

That block by afreund was almost big enough to count as two! Grin
legendary
Activity: 3234
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One more and we are back on track for this month... Cheesy
legendary
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Carl, aka Sonny :)
WOW!

Waking up to 3 BLOCKS is great. 

That's what I like to see!  Block Friday! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
Just a note to anyone who does have miners up in Labrador - since I never had tried to work out exactly where Labrador is Smiley

Yes indeed point them to nya.kano.is - it will slightly reduce your stales and increase the speed the blocks will be sent out when you find them Smiley

Edit: that's any of:
stratum+tcp://nya.kano.is:3333
stratum+tcp://nya.kano.is:80
stratum+tcp://nya.kano.is:81
stratum+tcp://nya.kano.is:443
stratum+tcp://nya.kano.is:8080

Don't forget to have backup pool settings Smiley
Preferably first to:
stratum+tcp://stratum.kano.is:3333
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