Topic: KanoPool kano.is lowest 0.9% fee 🐈 since 2014 - Worldwide - 2432 blocks - page 1181. (Read 5352229 times)
November 07, 2016, 08:11:34 PM
did someone failover with that 6 PHs
November 07, 2016, 07:42:33 PM
Completely off topic but if a MOQ of ten is set I will do a group buy.
I will be glad to point some Canaan at the pool.
It would be nice if these were under volt and down clock. I would love to run at 4th and 500 watts in my friends office.
Back to the pool I still have two s9s pointed here. And hope to add three Avalon 7s. That will boost me to
42th.
We could run six avalons at the array pointed here. That would get me to 60 th.
Time will tell.
I will be glad to point some Canaan at the pool.
It would be nice if these were under volt and down clock. I would love to run at 4th and 500 watts in my friends office.
Back to the pool I still have two s9s pointed here. And hope to add three Avalon 7s. That will boost me to
42th.
We could run six avalons at the array pointed here. That would get me to 60 th.
Time will tell.
November 07, 2016, 07:21:53 PM
Well...I just finished running numbers using my own historical production figures, actual costs, etc. I don't use any online calculators, BTW...I rely on my own math and the personal confuser. I come out with an ROI of about six months on free power (which I have at home), and about seven months at Labrador. When we were hearing speculations of "10-12TH on 1800W" it translates to exactly what we have, except divided into much more manageable units. The ROI would be the same.
What difficulty increase did you use do come up with a six month ROI?
Kano, please slap me if this is too OT.
November 07, 2016, 07:14:20 PM
Now we can get back to what matters most in this thread:
Block!
and it is under 100!
Block!
and it is under 100! 
November 07, 2016, 07:13:01 PM
Block!
Really liking the extra hash coming in from multiple sources!
I'm in the US and we just did the stupid "Daylight-saving time". So it's only 7:15 pm here now and the new mining day used to begin at 8:00pm. But according to the block time/date, we have moved into a new day already. I understand the rest of the world not observing DLST. Just an observation.
Okay, let's get 3-4 blocks today!! Very doable!
Come on BLOCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!
Really liking the extra hash coming in from multiple sources!
I'm in the US and we just did the stupid "Daylight-saving time". So it's only 7:15 pm here now and the new mining day used to begin at 8:00pm. But according to the block time/date, we have moved into a new day already. I understand the rest of the world not observing DLST. Just an observation.
Okay, let's get 3-4 blocks today!! Very doable!
Come on BLOCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!
November 07, 2016, 07:00:22 PM
@ Phillip if you do another group buy let me know.
I need too pick up a couple.
every little bit helps when it comes to ROI.
sorry for the OT Kano; but it all comes back to the pool.
I need too pick up a couple.
every little bit helps when it comes to ROI.
sorry for the OT Kano; but it all comes back to the pool.
November 07, 2016, 06:58:59 PM
I didn't include any resell value in my calculation.
I never do. Once they're ROI, they're basically off my books in that respect. I've paid forward four S3s w/psu's to folks here to get started; my old S2 still is here, but it may go forward as well. I've never resold a machine.
I guess my point is that, for me at least, my prime concern is that (1) the machine gets paid back on its own merit, plus (2) after that ROI, it produces reliably and consistently, all other factors being "equal."
It doesn't take an engineer to look at the insides of an S7 (I never bought an S9), and the insides of an A6 (on my bench), to see the difference in quality between the two. I may have only "X" number of years of mining left, but I'd prefer to expend my anxiety energy on something other than wondering if my machines are going to last.
November 07, 2016, 06:07:58 PM
Well...I just finished running numbers using my own historical production figures, actual costs, etc. I don't use any online calculators, BTW...I rely on my own math and the personal confuser. I come out with an ROI of about six months on free power (which I have at home), and about seven months at Labrador. When we were hearing speculations of "10-12TH on 1800W" it translates to exactly what we have, except divided into much more manageable units. The ROI would be the same.
Anyway...when you consider that this unit promises to be magnitudes better in build quality and maintenance considerations, I don't think it's disappointing at all. No, I'm not a large farm. Consider how many more people out there could afford to mine, though, as individuals...and it is the individual who will make Bitcoin perpetual. I have, however, run large data centers in my years...I wouldn't mind a few racks of these at all.
I'll take any further discussion to the other thread, I guess. Back to "work."
EDIT: ...and, notice...that 900W is distributed through eight PCIe connectors...not four...so the load per connect is ~113W. Smart.
EDIT2: ...and I've been using my own numbers for the past couple of years...they have never been wrong. Could be a first time, of course...
Anyway...when you consider that this unit promises to be magnitudes better in build quality and maintenance considerations, I don't think it's disappointing at all. No, I'm not a large farm. Consider how many more people out there could afford to mine, though, as individuals...and it is the individual who will make Bitcoin perpetual. I have, however, run large data centers in my years...I wouldn't mind a few racks of these at all.
I'll take any further discussion to the other thread, I guess. Back to "work."
EDIT: ...and, notice...that 900W is distributed through eight PCIe connectors...not four...so the load per connect is ~113W. Smart.
EDIT2: ...and I've been using my own numbers for the past couple of years...they have never been wrong. Could be a first time, of course...
I didn't include any resell value in my calculation.
November 07, 2016, 03:48:35 PM
Well...I just finished running numbers using my own historical production figures, actual costs, etc. I don't use any online calculators, BTW...I rely on my own math and the personal confuser. I come out with an ROI of about six months on free power (which I have at home), and about seven months at Labrador. When we were hearing speculations of "10-12TH on 1800W" it translates to exactly what we have, except divided into much more manageable units. The ROI would be the same.
Anyway...when you consider that this unit promises to be magnitudes better in build quality and maintenance considerations, I don't think it's disappointing at all. No, I'm not a large farm. Consider how many more people out there could afford to mine, though, as individuals...and it is the individual who will make Bitcoin perpetual. I have, however, run large data centers in my years...I wouldn't mind a few racks of these at all.
I'll take any further discussion to the other thread, I guess. Back to "work."
EDIT: ...and, notice...that 900W is distributed through eight PCIe connectors...not four...so the load per connect is ~113W. Smart.
EDIT2: ...and I've been using my own numbers for the past couple of years...they have never been wrong. Could be a first time, of course...
Anyway...when you consider that this unit promises to be magnitudes better in build quality and maintenance considerations, I don't think it's disappointing at all. No, I'm not a large farm. Consider how many more people out there could afford to mine, though, as individuals...and it is the individual who will make Bitcoin perpetual. I have, however, run large data centers in my years...I wouldn't mind a few racks of these at all.
I'll take any further discussion to the other thread, I guess. Back to "work."
EDIT: ...and, notice...that 900W is distributed through eight PCIe connectors...not four...so the load per connect is ~113W. Smart.
EDIT2: ...and I've been using my own numbers for the past couple of years...they have never been wrong. Could be a first time, of course...
November 07, 2016, 03:34:51 PM
I did some simple math with the bitcoinwisdom calculator.
3% diff increase
1% pool fees.
Current BTC Price
0,06 USD => NO ROI
0,03 USD => 452 days
0,02 USD => 369 days
Gonna pass for now
3% diff increase
1% pool fees.
Current BTC Price
0,06 USD => NO ROI
0,03 USD => 452 days
0,02 USD => 369 days
Gonna pass for now
I did the same calculation. Over 300 days for free power.
I can't justify this either.
Too bad. I was really looking for better competition for the S9. Maybe at least it will pressure BitMain to deliver a higher quality product, but I doubt it.
Yeah same feeling here, quite a disappointment.
I wonder if you could upgrade just the board from our A6 ... skipping Fans, Case, Controller ... Would be quite nice because the form factor looks the same. I'm dreaming here !
Hoping to finally buy the new gen miners to point them here
November 07, 2016, 03:05:22 PM
I did some simple math with the bitcoinwisdom calculator.
3% diff increase
1% pool fees.
Current BTC Price
0,06 USD => NO ROI
0,03 USD => 452 days
0,02 USD => 369 days
Gonna pass for now
3% diff increase
1% pool fees.
Current BTC Price
0,06 USD => NO ROI
0,03 USD => 452 days
0,02 USD => 369 days
Gonna pass for now
I did the same calculation. Over 300 days for free power.
I can't justify this either.
Too bad. I was really looking for better competition for the S9. Maybe at least it will pressure BitMain to deliver a higher quality product, but I doubt it.
November 07, 2016, 02:28:30 PM
It's 6TH at 900W
You think that's good, or bad?
I don't want to hijack kano's pool thread with this conversation. There is a thread in Mining Speculation where there's an ongoing discussion about it.
Back to your regularly scheduled mining discussions
November 07, 2016, 01:42:16 PM
It's 6TH at 900W
You think that's good, or bad?
I'm running numbers now. I can't see where it could be bad at this point. It's exactly what was needed, IMHO. It's good for all venues.
November 07, 2016, 01:31:07 PM
It's 6TH at 900W
You think that's good, or bad?
November 07, 2016, 12:43:50 PM
It's 6TH at 900W
November 07, 2016, 12:38:00 PM
I did some simple math with the bitcoinwisdom calculator.
3% diff increase
1% pool fees.
Current BTC Price
0,06 USD => NO ROI
0,03 USD => 452 days
0,02 USD => 369 days
Gonna pass for now
3% diff increase
1% pool fees.
Current BTC Price
0,06 USD => NO ROI
0,03 USD => 452 days
0,02 USD => 369 days
Gonna pass for now
November 07, 2016, 12:32:02 PM
Well...not exactly what we expected, or what many of us were contemplating...but actually I'm a happy camper with it.
Here's why...compared to the A6, almost double the hash on 78% of the power is the first one. I can double my home production and still use my microwave (long story...most of you know it already). Second reason...although the one A6 I have cooked, Canaan took care of it promptly and civilly. In the meantime, since they did not want the failed unit back, I dismantled it to take a tiptoe through the tulips. Having torn down innumerable S2s, S3s, and S7s, I'm VERY impressed with the design and build quality on the A6 (how many insides of a BM product have you examined and NOT found bits of solder paste here and there, or cold solder joints? This inside was pristine. Whatever shorted was an internal component and not a bad connection), and this ROQ unit is obviously right up the same alley. Third...I'm still liking the RPi controller arrangement, although I'm moving to a separate controller for each unit rather than chaining (more control). I haven't talked with Labrador yet (I'm sure of a couple of you are already on the horn), but I'm also pretty sure they're going to like this one.
So...on the whole...
Yippee-hoo!
Here's why...compared to the A6, almost double the hash on 78% of the power is the first one. I can double my home production and still use my microwave (long story...most of you know it already). Second reason...although the one A6 I have cooked, Canaan took care of it promptly and civilly. In the meantime, since they did not want the failed unit back, I dismantled it to take a tiptoe through the tulips. Having torn down innumerable S2s, S3s, and S7s, I'm VERY impressed with the design and build quality on the A6 (how many insides of a BM product have you examined and NOT found bits of solder paste here and there, or cold solder joints? This inside was pristine. Whatever shorted was an internal component and not a bad connection), and this ROQ unit is obviously right up the same alley. Third...I'm still liking the RPi controller arrangement, although I'm moving to a separate controller for each unit rather than chaining (more control). I haven't talked with Labrador yet (I'm sure of a couple of you are already on the horn), but I'm also pretty sure they're going to like this one.
So...on the whole...
Yippee-hoo!
November 07, 2016, 12:30:11 PM
I'm sure they will, they are from Canaan.
I wonder if they are going to offer some to Kano for another miner give-away.
I wonder if they are going to offer some to Kano for another miner give-away.
November 07, 2016, 12:29:35 PM
Avalon 721 on sale Mon. 14th $888 usd 6Th 900 watts.About TIME.
https://canaan.io/2016/11/07/the-avalonminer-721-is-roq-solid/
November 07, 2016, 12:18:03 PM
Lets hope they holdup better then the S9s.
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